Hum Sipahi Hain

Telefilm about the PAKISTAN ARMY set in the backdrop of the 1965 War.
The film follows the soldiers of the 8th Balouch Regiment and their heroics in the Chamb sector during the 1965 War with India.

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Thanks a bunch for sharing 5Abi :k:

I watched this last year when it was first aired on Defence Day. I had also luckily gotten in touch with the producer the good Col retd Yahya Jameel while it was under prod and he had excellent plans. He was planning to make more plays on stories of other SJ recipients. I wonder what happened to the plans. because I’m impatiently waiting for more.
Better start locating Col Yahya again :slight_smile:

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One quick question: Were there actually any balochis in this balochi regiment?

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^
LOL
its other way round.. it was to conquer Baluchistan :p

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Military units and equipment is named to honor a region or a person.

Al-Khalid tank is not limited to the tank drivers named Khalid
Ghaznavi or Abdali rockets do not have Afghani looking guys sitting on top of them just before they are to be fired towards Pakistan's enemies.

USS Reagan was not named so in order to limit its use for Reagan family's pleasure trips to Bahamas.

The same way Punjab or Baloch or Sindh regiments are named so to honor Pakistan's diversity.

I hope this makes it clear.

Dunno what the chuckle is all about. Criminals be they Punjabis, Sindhis or Balochis will be apprehended by the law-enforcement agencies.

Just see how some Pashtoon Mullahs are being sent to Jannat as we speak. And guess what their "shipping and handling" is being processed by Frontier Corps and Pak army.

Try finding a link between army names and their missions and you will be fooled very quickly.

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^^

In line with the old British Army's practices, Pakistan's regiment names are based on where the units are based, not where the people in the unit come from.

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anti & maddy thanks, good posts. I had been trying to figure how to put it across effectively. well put.

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yup a nation of fools being fooled by military operations :)
happy hunting..

btw do u ppl get paid for ur services to PA..

if so let me know.. i would apply too :)

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But didn’t british follow a different policy: get the units from the locals and a gora [an outsider] be their leader? India used to follow the brit system and they had serious troubles [that we never came to know] like the sikhs being in bed with the sikh militants in punjab in the eighties! It is after that they tweeked the system and now you find different ethnicities deployed in different parts of the country.

What does it matter where the unit is based at when there were no balochis to begin with? :hehe: I can quote you an example of FF unit in Pak army which negates your perception haris. I am just bringing it up since we used “baloch” regiment against bengalis in 1971 when baloch prolly didn’t have anything to do with it?

PS Why don’t get rid of provincial names in the army and adopt the US system when natives don’t end up in their local units anyway? :ahaa:

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What works in US, would not work here. Instead we need more local participation and maybe one day we can talk of doing away with ethnic lines and divisions. Too much work to do before that happens.

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Do you have some stats to show that Baochistan's representation in Pak army is ZERO?

Or you are trying to see how many people we have in Pak army whose last name is Bugti, Marri, or Mangal?

FYI, Pakistan Inter Services Selection Board (ISSB) has 16 test centers including one in Quetta. Once you pass your first exam, ISSB conducts the final test in one of its four centers that are located in Quetta, Karachi, Gujranwala, and Kohat.

There must be a reason why they have test center and then an advanced selection center in Quetta. You can take your tests after 10th grade and then start your officer training / college education in one of the military academies.

However if you don't want to join Pak forces after 10th grade, you can be an engineer or a doctor and they would love to recruit you as Captain.

Regardless of how one joins the army, Balochistan will and should have at least 2% representation proportional to their population.

Unless you prove that Balochistan domiciled are not allowed in Pak army, this endless sniping is useless.

Thank you.

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Quetta is mostly pashtun and hazara town. Balochs are not in majority.

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^But that doesn't matter, because the ISSB centers are opened in major Garrison towns of the province, and Quetta being the capital of Balochistan, as well as the main garrison town, its logical that the ISSB is there. Plus the Army pays for all candidates' travel/daily expense according to distance from ISSB to and from their homes when they report for selection.

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anti, youre right about the rest, but the selection for officers is from XII/Inter/A Levels onwards. There used to be streams from cadet colleges and certain Junior Leaders Academy for selection after X to complete class XI/XII with them and progress to respective military academy but I think that is not present these days, and the main entry/selection is after class XII direct to PMA, where they graduate with BSc or BA after 2 years training and education before they pass out as officers. You're right about graduates, engineers, doctors routes.

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watched it first time :k: A very good production with limited budget.

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Well yes, the British Royal Army and the British Indian Army traditionally had regiments named after regions. Initially that was because the regiments were raised in those territories, lead by the local Knights, and almost entirely comprised of the local population. In national war they were deployed by the King’s/Queen’s discretion. When it came to local military action, they took care of their own area. The same pattern was adapted for the British Indian Army, and regiments were raised in various areas of the sub continent, lead and officered by the British. This was same for all Baloch, FF, Punjab, Jatt, Sikh, Gurkhas, Madras, Bengal, Hyderabad regts and so on.
However the rule of regional regiments being ‘local’ was abandoned, at what point exactly I’m not sure, but atleast in WWI the regiments were not local other than their traditional regional names, and they were not ethnically exclusive, nor entirely regional. Though in that era by default the regimental center in the region where the regiment was raised for eg FF Regt in Abbotabad, comprised of people from that area/province because recruitments were done through regimental centers. In later years the recruitment is centralized, training still done at respective regimental centers but a recruit now has equal chnace of hailing from Abbotabad and being recruited into the Sindh Regiment. Same in India. It’s a detailed topic to discuss, and equally interesting.
And yes, there are FF Regts staioned at Sindh Karachi, in punjab, in Balochistan, NWFP, same goes for Punjab regts stationed in SIndh, Balochistan, NWFP,Punjab, and same for all other regts in other areas and also comprising of all ethnicities. The names are traditional and full of rich heritage and customs which are valued and guarded jealously by the regts. Sure the Baloch are comparatively less, but there are efforts to change that now.

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oops. I was wrong. edited

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What happened Maddy?

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Its called technical error a.k.a Funny Kharabi