huckabee's errors in statements about Pakistan & Pakistanis

More Pakistanis in the U.S. illegally than any other nationality except Latin Americans

Huckabee on Illegal Pakistanis

Dec 28, 2007

PELLA, Iowa (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said Friday there are more Pakistanis in the U.S. illegally than any other nationality except those from Latin America.

He told his audience at a campaign event here that 660 Pakistanis have come into the country illegally because of insecure borders.

Pressed by reporters where he got that figure, Huckabee said: “Those are numbers that I got today from a briefing and I believe they are CIA and or immigration numbers.” Later, in a conference call with reporters, he identified the figure coming from the Homeland Security Department.

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“I am making the observation that we have more Pakistani illegals coming across our border than all other nationalities except those immediately south of the border,” he said, repeating the assertion he made to his audience earlier. “And in light of what is happening in Pakistan it ought to give us pause as to why are so many illegals coming across these borders.”

THE SPIN:

Huckabee has vaulted to the front tier of the Republican field with his tough-on-immigration stance. The issue resonates with voters in practically every state, including first-to-vote Iowa. He has proposed sealing the Mexican border, hiring more agents to patrol it and to make illegal immigrants go home and apply for legal status. He’s backed by the founder of the tough anti-immigrant group Minuteman Project.

THE FACTS:

Homeland Security officials say there are more people in the U.S. illegally from the Caribbean, China and Canada than from Pakistan. Officials deported 435 Pakistanis in the 2007 fiscal year, which ran from Oct. 1, 2006 to Sept. 30, 2007, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement statistics. During this time, 766 people from China were deported, as were 521 from the Philippines.

In a phone call Friday with reporters, Huckabee said he was referring to the number of people who are caught entering the country illegally, and he pointed to Homeland Security statistics and a 2006 Denver Post article. He also said more Pakistanis were caught illegally trying to enter the U.S. than people from Canada and China.

Homeland Security does not publicize the number of people from each country who are caught trying to enter illegally or are turned away at legal border crossings, said Customs and Border Protection spokesman Bill Anthony. But without providing specific details — because they are considered sensitive for law enforcement — Anthony said Pakistanis do not top the list after Latin American countries.

In fiscal 2007, about 600 Pakistanis were turned away at the border or arrested in between entry points.

Re: More Pakistanis in the U.S. illegally than any other nationality except LA

Yeah I heard about this... These candidates are willing to make up whatever garbage they want to push their agenda...

Thankfully there are sane and honest people in the country who are able to refute such bs when they see it...

Number dont add up anyways, if there are so many illegal Pakistanis crossing the border, second only to Latin America, why are there so many more Chinese and Indians in America then there are Pakistanis?

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Huckabee did nore than just that, he was trying to answer criticism that he knows jack about international stuff.

in the same speech he asked musarraf to end emergency :smiley:

he also wanted pakistan to do more on its eastern border that it shares with afghanistan…I dont think I need to explain here that what is wrong with this picture.

but i know why he is unable to figure out geography, as eloquently explained by ms teen south carolina

"I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uhmmm, some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and uh, I believe that our, I, education like such as uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uhhh, our education over here in the US should help the US, uh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us.”

PS: does populist now mean “appealing to dumb ppl”

Foreign policy gaffes plague Huckabee
Story Highlights
NEW: Aide admits that Huckabee has “no foreign policy credentials”

NEW: Campaign official suggested tying Pakistan crisis to immigration issue

Huckabee appeared not to know that martial law had been lifted in Pakistan

Gaffes will have little effect on support for populist candidate, analyst says

PELLA, Iowa (CNN) – A senior aide to Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee admitted Friday that the former Arkansas governor had “no foreign policy credentials” after his comments reacting to the assassination of former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto raised questions.

During an event Friday in Pella, Iowa, Huckabee said the crisis sparked by Bhutto’s death should lead to a crackdown on illegal immigrants from Pakistan.

The Huckabee official told CNN that when he said that, Huckabee was trying to turn attention away from scrutiny of his foreign policy knowledge.

Huckabee’s foreign policy credentials have been under a microscope since the candidate admitted that he was unaware of an intelligence report that Iran had suspended its nuclear weapons program earlier this month.

“In light of what happened in Pakistan yesterday, it’s interesting that there are more Pakistanis who have illegally crossed the border than of any other nationality except for those immediately south of our border,” Huckabee said Friday.

Americans might “look halfway around the world and say, ‘How does that affect me?’ … We need to understand that violence and terror is significant when it happens in Pakistan, [and] it’s more significant if it can happen in our own cities. And it happens if people can slip across our border and we have no control over them.”

“The immigration issue is not so much about people coming to pick lettuce or make beds, it’s about people who could come with a shoulder-fired missile and could do serious damage and harm to us,” Huckabee said, “and that’s what we need to be worried about.”

The Huckabee official said he told Huckabee that his reaction to the crisis in Pakistan will be the story for the next several days, and until he is “briefed and up to speed” on Pakistan, a good place for Huckabee to draw the line is on illegal immigration. Watch a report about the ‘surprising tactic’ »

“Why does Rudy Giuliani get more credentials on homeland security than you do? You’ve been a governor,” the Huckabee campaign official said he told the candidate.

The campaign official admitted that Huckabee’s tough immigration talk is also aimed at helping him win male GOP voters in Iowa – a bloc the official concedes the campaign has been losing ground with.

Huckabee said 660 Pakistanis entered the country illegally last year. When asked by a reporter the source for that statistic, Huckabee appeared unsure, saying, “Those are numbers that I got today from a briefing, and I believe they are CIA and immigration numbers.” The Huckabee campaign later said the figure came from a March 2006 report by The Denver Post.

But the Border Patrol told CNN on Friday that it apprehended only “a handful” of illegal immigrants from Pakistan in 2007.

The number of illegal immigrants from Pakistan deported or apprehended is not mentioned in the latest report from the Department of Homeland Security/Office of Immigration Statistics. In 2005, the nation did not make the list of the top 10 sources of illegal immigrants. The previous year, Pakistan was the last country listed, but no specific numbers were given.

Huckabee is the GOP front-runner in Iowa, according to most polls. A Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll conducted December 20-23 and 26 has Huckabee leading former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney 36 percent to 28 percent among likely caucus goers. The poll’s margin of error was plus or minus 7 percentage points.

As the campaigns enter the final stretch before the Iowa caucuses on January 3, Romney has gone on the attack against Huckabee, particularly focusing on his record on illegal immigration issues while he was Arkansas governor.

Huckabee’s Friday comments on immigration came after he appeared to make another gaffe Thursday, when he seemed to suggest incorrectly that Pakistan was under martial law. Watch Huckabee’s response to Bhutto’s assassination »

While commenting on Bhutto’s death during an Orlando, Florida, press conference, Huckabee told reporters that the United States’ first priority should be to find the responsible parties.

“But the most urgent thing to do is to offer our sincere sympathies and concerns to the family and to the people of Pakistan, and that’s the first thing we would be doing other than, again, trying to ascertain who’s behind it, and what impact does it have on whether or not there’s going to be martial law continued in Pakistan, suspension of the constitution,” Huckabee said. “Those are concerns that the United States certainly should have.”

Later Thursday, at an event in West Des Moines, Iowa, Huckabee told CNN that “it was not that I was unaware it was suspended, two weeks ago, lifted. …The point was, would it be reinstated, would it be placed back in? All of the aspects of martial law have not been completely lifted even now. There’s still a heavy hand Musharraf has used.”

Conservative critics immediately pointed out that Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf lifted the country’s state of martial law roughly two weeks ago.

The slip “ought to be really bad news for Huckabee,” said the National Review’s Jim Geraghty, writing on the magazine’s Web site. “I’m not sure how big assassination-related news will play in the first primary states. Still, I think those misstatements will exacerbate the Huck/Not Huck divide in GOP circles.” The National Review has endorsed Romney.

But CNN senior political analyst Bill Schneider said the debate over whether Huckabee has command of the nuances of the Pakistan crisis would have little impact on his support.

“Mike Huckabee is a populist. His comments on Pakistan reflect a populist understanding of the crisis, which, is to say, not much,” Schneider said. “Sure, the political establishment is snickering, but I doubt that his misstatements bother his supporters much.”

Re: More Pakistanis in the U.S. illegally than any other nationality except LA

here you go…

Re: More Pakistanis in the U.S. illegally than any other nationality except LA

denada, this is factually incorrect!!! this huckleberryfin guy is a dumass (pardon the french), who has no clue what hes babbling, and also what in the world makes him relate bb's assasination with illegal immigration?

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maybe he thought benazir's assassins would come to US illegally :)

I think in a roundabout way he was saying that BB was killed in pakistan by aldaeda militants thus there can be Pakistanis in US who are of the same mindset, and he used the illegal angle because legal immigrants go thru all kinds of checks.

so in republicans we have to pic between him, romney, ron paul, and guiliani?

oh god..

and on the other side we have hilary-ous and labamba?

can we draft al gore.

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Ms US IS HILARIOUS! I question a lot of the politicians on their knowldge of Pak… I mean Bush didnt even know the name of the Pakistani dictator prior to winning the election…

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Also mods, please close this thread as this person has posted a misleading title...

Re: huckabee's errors in statements about Pakistan & Pakistanis

Wasn't huckabee the one who didn't know that emergency in Pakistan was lifted? When benazir was assasinated he made a statement in which he said that emergency needs to be lifted in Pakistan.

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What the hell are Pakistan's foreign offices doing? Busy filling their bags with the nation's money?

Fact is Pakistanis are not even in the Top 25 illegal immigrant communities in the US and most of them are students on expired visas.