Musharraf he was always a dictator. We have seen this before: twice or is it thrice. Short memory long fuses. I am sure he sees himself as a real patriot, indispensable to Pakistan. Ofcourse he does. Do you think Zia, or Saddam or whoever dictators high five themsleves thinking they are fooling the people? Nay! They think of themselves as visionaries, as leaders, as saviours touched by God. And that is why democracy is important. Not because it is inherently good but because you can get rid of these saviors and lord protectors with least amount of tears, blood, heartache and bad omens.
I am glad to see some winds of change in these forums. I left these forums years ago with this very heartache, feeling alone and disappointed lol, typing furiously between classes during my freshman quarter. But thank god for Chad Hurley, Jawed Karim (youtube). And others (Ayaz Amir comes to mind) who kept doing their job and speaking out and gave me hope. I am proud now to be on the right side. And I am proud of Pakistan today the media, the journalists (US media can learn as some idealism and courage from Pakistan’s), . How wonderful that when people get murdered in Balochistan it is felt through out Pakistan. When blood flows in FATA, it is felt in Karachi and Pindi. How wonderful. The same spirit which made us as a diverse nation feel for Kashmiris? the students, people like Imran Khan. It took a while for the nation to wake (for most I believe it was events of march or May?) in India and Afghanistan no one gives a damn much less question.
I am glad to see some winds of change in these forums
It is very sad to see that democratically elected leaders as well as dictators of poor third world countries have accumulated vast fortunes and moved them overseas.......
Nothing has changed my friend.................Nothing!
It is very sad to see that democratically elected leaders as well as dictators of poor third world countries have accumulated vast fortunes and moved them overseas.......
Nothing has changed my friend.................Nothing!
Things have changed and they do change buddy. Compare Mexico with Cuba. And I am very sad to say Pakistan with other third world democracies. North Korea with South and so forth. Yes politicians are corrupt, they loot, they steal. Even USA, the best country int he world (internally) by many measures is not safe from corruption (albeit to a much lesser extent and even the Presidents can be brought to justice). But things do change slowly, but surely and more stably. The interest of politicians are tied to elections. They are forced to sooner or later tow the line of geenuine GENUINE national interests. In Mexico, the current gov.t of Calderon won on the rhetoric of cracking down on mafias and corruption and he won eventually and Mexico is more corruption free, people more positive than they were before. Do you realize that there has NEVER been a civilian to civilian transfer of power in Pakistan EXCEPT in 1997? For the first time we saw power move from civilian to civilian. What a fantastic day that was in Pakistan's history. It was a start....a start excoriated and damned by this mediocre fool.
You can't have free representative democracy and feudalism coexist in a society. And judging by your posts of how you support a joker like BB, allah hi hafiz he pakistan ka!! The least you could do is support new ideas in Pakistan. Benazir is a like a scorpion [scorpions always biting.. you get the drift].
You can't have free representative democracy and feudalism coexist in a society. And judging by your posts of how you support a joker like BB, allah hi hafiz he pakistan ka!! The least you could do is support new ideas in Pakistan. Benazir is a like a scorpion [scorpions always biting.. you get the drift].
Feudalism is not a detractor of democracy in Pakistan, it is the lack of accountability and distribution of power: a distribution which makes the governing system of a country slow, perhaps tedious, boring, frustrating but keeps the ambition or delusion of man in check. I speak of independent judiciary, accountability and so forth. A check on arbitrary powers. If Feudalism were a detractor, England wouldn't have become the avant garde for modern representative form of government or the US south which was especially an agrarian Plantation society and the indulgent industrial/monetary north become the best experiment in elitist, representative democracy where the people could hope to work within institutions and a system flexible enough to allo for change without revolution. And upward mobility.
These military corrupt elite in Pakistan. These leeches are what? Are they not worse than the Feuds? Are they not worse than any doctrinal anathema that has shadowed Pakistan's soul darkening its avowed promises? Even industrial elites without competing checks on them are feudals. Like other efficient blanketing terms which do not delve properly into the nature of human dynamics, this "evil FEUDALISM" is just another nom de guerre.
And I don't support BB. To me she was self debilitating progressive. She had in her much of the qualities of the errant political Left without centeration. I didn't support her father (though respect him as a great leader) and his errant socialist policies. My courtesy and amiable words for her are out of deference to the dead. Also, she was an embodiment of so many things to so many people. Although I would still have preferred her over the present cadre of incompetent nincompoops even with all her sad pathetic adulation to the western tide of apathy housed in Bush's regime. But again if there were democracy in Pakistan and if she were a god fearing leader she never would've so shamelessly cajoled neocons, broker deal with this military yenta to get her corrupt charges dropped while more depressing issue were at hand and share power for the sake of having any power.
Imran Khan is the only leader that I consider second only to Jinnah in this country's history both in his disposition, charisma, politics and actions.