Re: how will khilafah deal with current situation
so how do we get him to come?
Following the sunnah,as today's situation is similar to that wen islam came first..(as prophet said ;islam came as stranger and will become a stranger again,and blessing be on the straigers)
so we r demanding nusrah i.e protection..,n only those who have power can protect n its army of any country who has power to protect khilafah...
Re: how will khilafah deal with current situation
looks like you have already set standards and wrote instruction book for khalipha. looks like you will reject a khalipha who doesnt do all that you mentioned.
what if the khalipha says to people " You all dudes need to chill and relax. lets sing praises for god, dance and party. Lets take out kids to park for picnic and go to grand canyon for rafting. lets take our families out for dinner regularly. lets all have fun, forget about jews and conspiracies and finish that masters degree and be a productive part of the society."
would u still follow him
Re: how will khilafah deal with current situation
looks like you have already set standards and wrote instruction book for khalipha. looks like you will reject a khalipha who doesnt do all that you mentioned.
what if the khalipha says to people " You all dudes need to chill and relax. lets sing praises for god, dance and party. Lets take out kids to park for picnic and go to grand canyon for rafting. lets take our families out for dinner regularly. lets all have fun, forget about jews and conspiracies and finish that masters degree and be a productive part of the society."
would u still follow him
yes its ok to chill n relax but ofcorse to dance n party is against islam!!
if u r muslim u wud know meaning of 'implementing islam'
rassull ALLAH told us to obey hukmaran even if we dislike his habbits untill he commands harram i.e not islam.....
a muslim shud know,understand and believe that islam is the solution,only the system given by creature can maintain balance
it is farz upon muslims to live accordin to/ under sharia...darul islam...as it facilitates muslims to follow and live according to islam(as state maintains interest free economy, segregation in society ...)
Allah told us that islam will conquer the world,so did prophet(p.b.u.h)...we know islam will rise and decline to complete kufr before qiyamah
and** there is nothing that we have decide with our own aqal,watever rules n purpose i mentioned about khilafa r according to quran and sunnah**
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nothing i wrote is unislamic. well unless by party you mean booze party.
anyways, if god says islam will rule the world then there are more reason to chillex. if it is gods will then why worry about it, it will happen.
so chill dude. enjoy, this world is a beautiful place already.
Re: how will khilafah deal with current situation
nothing i wrote is unislamic. well unless by party you mean booze party.
anyways, if god says islam will rule the world then there are more reason to chillex. if it is gods will then why worry about it, it will happen.
so chill dude. enjoy, this world is a beautiful place already.
yes God informed us but r we born to chill ??? y din't prophet,saahaba and great worrriers of islam chilled???they didnt know Allah can do it???
we will b questioned for our efforts not results,it is our resposibilty to stand aggainst opresion,raise voice against the culprits and demand islam
Re: how will khilafah deal with current situation
The issue with the khilafah gang is that they are on about what sort of utopia will automtically and instantaneously happen when some dude becomes a khalifah. My challenge to these groups always has been and always will be, that there is a lot of leg work needed for some sort of single state entity ruled by a khalifah, or some sort of political/economic block presided by a common chairperson etc.. because the ground level issues will not go away right then, so why not spend some of the energy working on real things, poverty alleviation, education, health, industry etc etc....so when a khalifah shows up there has been progress made in these areas already and he does not have to start from zero.
Re: how will khilafah deal with current situation
The issue with the khilafah gang is that they are on about what sort of utopia will automtically and instantaneously happen when some dude becomes a khalifah. My challenge to these groups always has been and always will be, that there is a lot of leg work needed for some sort of single state entity ruled by a khalifah, or some sort of political/economic block presided by a common chairperson etc.. because the ground level issues will not go away right then, so why not spend some of the energy working on real things, poverty alleviation, education, health, industry etc etc....so when a khalifah shows up there has been progress made in these areas already and he does not have to start from zero.
brother this is really simple to understand,if we r suppose to solve "poverty alleviation, education, health, industry etc " then wats the use of gov???
only the head,the one who controls,has responsibilty can solve these issues
u can see its just an order from ruler which can solve the issue....as i gave some exaples in my first post /the thread
i or u cannot solve ne of these issues...u can take example of any social worker or such org..did they succeed in vanishing the problem they working on??
issues r solved form higher level not lower !!
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brother this is really simple to understand,if we r suppose to solve "poverty alleviation, education, health, industry etc " then wats the use of gov??? only the head,the one who controls,has responsibilty can solve these issues
u can see its just an order from ruler which can solve the issue....as i gave some exaples in my first post /the thread
i or u cannot solve ne of these issues...u can take example of any social worker or such org..did they succeed in vanishing the problem they working on?? issues r solved form higher level not lower !!
completely solving no, but then there is no government that had been able to completely solve it either.
I can give you examples of may social workers who have had a profound impact on the lives of people through their work.
additionally, if social work is a hard pill to swallow, there is plenty of planning and policy work that is needed from everything ranging from irrigation planning to trade promotion.
and if its the govts role to solve everything then let the govts sort out this whole khilafah business as well, after all as you said "issues r solved from higher level not lower" :)
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completely solving no, but then there is no government that had been able to completely solve it either. I can give you examples of may social workers who have had a profound impact on the lives of people through their work.
additionally, if social work is a hard pill to swallow, there is plenty of planning and policy work that is needed from everything ranging from irrigation planning to trade promotion.
and if its the govts role to solve everything then let the govts sort out this whole khilafah business as well, after all as you said "issues r solved from higher level not lower" :)
but our current govs r not sincere n r interested in their power ... so we have to kick them out wid the enemy serving capitalist system!!
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yes God informed us but r we born to chill ??? y din't prophet,saahaba and great worrriers of islam chilled???they didnt know Allah can do it??? we will b questioned for our efforts not results,it is our resposibilty to stand aggainst opresion,raise voice against the culprits and demand islam
prophets, sahabas etc got instructions directly from god. are you comparing yourself with prophets?
and demanding islam? comeon nobody is stopping you to apply islam to yourself. you have it already. stop complaining.
let god do its job, let prophets do their job and you should chill.
unless you think god is not all powerful and cant do the job it promised.
if you take responsibility, stand up against all that is bad, do your job and be a good citizen then you wont need khalipha.
:)
Re: how will khilafah deal with current situation
only the rightly guided khaleefah will bring real change in Pakistan,within hours.the khaleefa** will immediately end all forms of co-operation with American crusaders and expel both their diplomatic and millitary staff from muslim lands.he will cut the NATO supply line that crosses Pakistan to starve the crusadrs occupation in Afghanistan.he will **reclaim vital military assests that can be employed for the releif efforts such as the airbase near Jacobabad and airspace used by American drones.He will** encourage the sincere from the muslims of the tribal areas and balochistan to join the ranks of the khilafa's armed forces,exposing the munafiqeen amoungst the ranks of the muslims,and allowing the muslims to act as one hand on behalf of the muslims and islam he will release billions of dollars worth of wealth by;ending the private ownership of the public properties,such as gas and minerals,and using their immense revenue** to benefit all the citizens of the khilafah*,ending all forms of usury based debt servicing* to the coloniast institutions and establishing the islamic revenues which will bring releif for the poor **and takes only from those who are not needy and not beyond what they can bear.and the khaleefah will work to unify all the muslims countries of a KHALEEFA COMPREHENSIVELY IMPLEMENTING ISLAM**
How long you will allow the coloniasts and their agents to cheat you and deny real change??
will you stand and watch as yet another cosnetic change to the current kufr system takes place?
"Allah has promised those among you who believe and do righteous good deeds,that he will certainly grant them succession to (the present ruler)in the land,as he granted it to those before them.and that he will grant them the authority to practice their religion which he has chosen for them.and He will surely give hem in exchange a safe security after their fear(provided) they worship me and do not associate anything with me.but whoever disbelieved after tis,tey are fasiqoon" sura al-noor
I wonder which MUSLIM COMPUTER/TECHNOLOGY the proposed Khalifa is going to use to convey his message to all people in the city let alone the country which is on 796,069 Square Mile.
Stop Mocking institute of Khilafat with stupid solutions... this will further provide the chance for anti-Khilafat people to laugh on the very idea of Uniting muslims under Khilafah...
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prophets, sahabas etc got instructions directly from god. are you comparing yourself with prophets?
and demanding islam? comeon nobody is stopping you to apply islam to yourself. you have it already. stop complaining.
let god do its job, let prophets do their job and you should chill. unless you think god is not all powerful and cant do the job it promised.
if you take responsibility, stand up against all that is bad, do your job and be a good citizen then you wont need khalipha. :)
very fuuny
Re: how will khilafah deal with current situation
I wonder which MUSLIM COMPUTER/TECHNOLOGY the proposed Khalifa is going to use to convey his message to all people in the city let alone the country which is on 796,069 Square Mile.
Stop Mocking institute of Khilafat with stupid solutions... this will further provide the chance for anti-Khilafat people to laugh on the very idea of Uniting muslims under Khilafah...
n wats stupid in it??
wasnt expecting this from u!
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n wats stupid in it??
wasnt expecting this from u!
Many some of them are below:
1) Once you expel the diplomatic staff of Europeans, how do you think you are going to communicate, because right from the key-board you have till the most sophisticated technology at hand has been invented, designed and controlled by them, once they stop you supplying with it, you won't be able to light a bulb, let alone do work on Computer.. there is no industry in any muslim country which manufacture ( the word is not assemble) any modern technology...
2) All the research and advancement in the Science is in west, and the rule of nature ( Allah) is who ever have upper hand in Moral Values and Knowledge would be given the Imamat of the World..clearly they are far ahead of us on both grounds...
3) The Khalifa first have to provide the nation with the basic education and should be able to build the character this is evident from the Life of the Prophet (SAAW) that The State-of-Madina was not established until all the factors required were in place... same applies here...
Re: how will khilafah deal with current situation
I am the chosen one! Make me khalifa now!
Re: how will khilafah deal with current situation
Many some of them are below:
1) Once you expel the diplomatic staff of Europeans, how do you think you are going to communicate, because right from the key-board you have till the most sophisticated technology at hand has been invented, designed and controlled by them, once they stop you supplying with it, you won't be able to light a bulb, let alone do work on Computer.. there is no industry in any muslim country which manufacture ( the word is not assemble) any modern technology...
2) All the research and advancement in the Science is in west, and the rule of nature ( Allah) is who ever have upper hand in Moral Values and Knowledge would be given the Imamat of the World..clearly they are far ahead of us on both grounds...
3) The Khalifa first have to provide the nation with the basic education and should be able to build the character this is evident from the Life of the Prophet (SAAW) that The State-of-Madina was not established until all the factors required were in place... same applies here...
well the first point u mentioned ...it wud then make us develop our own industry instead of depending on them...gud for us!!
n can u imagine how much theuy depend on our oil, gas,food,routes..!!
n khalifah will oviously provide edu and u know its gonna b free of cost n compulsory for everyone till school!
provision of every basic facility will be states responsibility(i mean will be provided in real)
no tax on bijli,khana etc...only cost price
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I am the chosen one! Make me khalifa now!
sure if u are aqil,baligh,adil,mard!!
Re: how will khilafah deal with current situation
Out of 1.2 Billions muslims , as per my guesstimate 300 million will fulfill your simplistic criteria. 
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n wen did i mention*killing* the munafiks?? n m sure only the non-muslims cia,raw,ttp trainers etc wud reject ne such offer! wat treatment do u suggest for them?? n islam is very strict with implementing punishments n in this era investigating etc is easy enough to avoid misjudgments n remember where there is suspicion Islamic punishments r abandoned!
Forget about killing ,as I said in this day and age only Allah knows that who is munafiq. There is no treatment suggested for munfiqs in Islam , only Allah will deal with them , so what is your method of detecting munafiqs , what do you want to do with them once detected and what is purpose of detecting munafiqs ? Eliminate , marginalize or implement jazia on them once you identify those who do not agree with your brand of Islam ?
Re: how will khilafah deal with current situation
Our oil, gas and food? It's OUR if countries with these resources are treating it as such. If it was OURS, we wouldn't be selling our national assets to these countries for some relaxed terms in oil contracts. Besides, where you suggest this khulafat should be established 1st? Pakistan? I am not aware of any other Muslim country/nation WITH RESOURCES calling for khilafat!
As for the education etc, the fastest scientific growing (in terms of publications and research work) Muslim country - is treated like a threat by rest of resourceful Muslim countries. How your proposed khalifa would address sectarian differences issue? Can you name few candidates here, instead of somewhat romanticising the idea of khilafat?