Re: how we will be sure ?
The attack was against PPP. Mullahs have always hated BB, right? Add to this her support of lal masjid operation. 1+2=3
Re: how we will be sure ?
The attack was against PPP. Mullahs have always hated BB, right? Add to this her support of lal masjid operation. 1+2=3
Re: how we will be sure ?
and how you are sure about it
Lal masjid loud speakers were calling for suicide bombers. Were they secular people inside? Palestinians who commit suicide bombings, are they not considered shaheed?
Re: how we will be sure ?
The attack was against PPP. Mullahs have always hated BB, right? Add to this her support of lal masjid operation. 1+2=3
MQM also hate PPP, MQM also have hate for lal masjid , MQM also hate cj so should we blame on MQM as well
and second Mulana diesel always love BB so how does he kills PPP
PPP can also get popularity by killing his own people and becoming victom
if we keep on playing this blame game , it will never end
Re: how we will be sure ?
Lal masjid loud speakers were calling for suicide bombers. Were they secular people inside? Palestinians who commit suicide bombings, are they not considered shaheed?
lal masjid mulanas were stupid , we know , but how we will be sure that by just saying on speakers , means he is guilty, so now where ever blast happens , they are the ones who done this
many of my friends in CASE university near to lal masjid had many time offered nimaz in lal masjid along with many professors who hate these mulanas does that make them suicide bomber , although we know them personally that they are secular people
Re: how we will be sure ?
See look what these Mullahs are doing
Defaming Islam and giving enemies of Islam every reason to invade Islam...
Dead Parties like MQM has also started talking now. ( normally to them we should say "look who is talking") but yes they got the chance.. ppl have forgottrn 12 may.. they remember the violence by suicide bomber...
A mujahid will never do that and mullah will never miss a chance
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Neither MQM or PPP believe in suicide bombings. Mullah jihadis do, they have threatened before as well. Maulana diesel himself can be a target of these jihadis because he is part of the democratic system. The jihadis want to kill everyone who does not agree with them, even the more "moderate" mullahs. Can you see the difference?
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lal masjid mulanas were stupid , we know , but how we will be sure that by just saying on speakers , means he is guilty, so now where ever blast happens , they are the ones who done this
many of my friends in CASE university near to lal masjid had many time offered nimaz in lal masjid along with many professors who hate these mulanas does that make them suicide bomber , although we know them personally that they are secular people
Mullahs have made this reputation for themselves by being silent or in many cases support the acts of jihadis no matter how wrong or violent it is.
Re: how we will be sure ?
See look what these Mullahs are doing
Defaming Islam and giving enemies of Islam every reason to invade Islam...
Dead Parties like MQM has also started talking now. ( normally to them we should say "look who is talking") but yes they got the chance.. ppl have forgottrn 12 may.. they remember the violence by suicide bomber...
A mujahid will never do that and mullah will never miss a chance
we know most mullahs are wrong from the day one and they use blame game
does it means we also become that type
what i am confuse , is govt don't do any investigation, media start blaming mullahs and secular for this
there is nothing clear but what happen , public is fighting each other and blaming others
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Mullahs have made this reputation for themselves by being silent or in many cases support the acts of jihadis no matter how wrong or violent it is.
but how we will be sure that these suicide bombs are from mullahs if we blame it is from mullah, why govt and media not do the proper investigation
what ever happens they start saying , it can be from them
and then people start saying that it is for sure from them
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Let me tell, no one can be 100% sure in the real world. If that were the case and everyone agreed, we would not be fighting each other in the first place.
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we know most mullahs are wrong from the day one and they use blame game does it means we also become that type
what i am confuse , is govt don't do any investigation, media start blaming mullahs and secular for this
there is nothing clear but what happen , public is fighting each other and blaming others
Yup thats where govt. is wrong and majority of ppl don't believe what govt says coz of their long history of lying and playing with the facts...
I guess so far mushy, who's days were numbered is the winner, we successfully created a scenario where every one on the west thinks that Mush is the answer!!!
Re: how we will be sure ?
Neither MQM or PPP believe in suicide bombings. Mullah jihadis do, they have threatened before as well. Maulana diesel himself can be a target of these jihadis because he is part of the democratic system. The jihadis want to kill everyone who does not agree with them, even the more "moderate" mullahs. Can you see the difference?
have you met any jihadi, i haven't met , so i can't say anything for sure
i am aslo not sure about MQM and PPP
the way you are blaming to jihadis
i had also heard there blame that MQM aslo kill everyone who does not agree with them
a famous quote that i had read on BBC urdu about MQM
"jo bi quid sey takray ga , lal bati wo jaey ga" and what lal bati means operation theater, what the reality behind that , i don't know
why govt don't do investigation , i don't know and that has make me confuse
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Let me tell, no one can be 100% sure in the real world. If that were the case and everyone agreed, we would not be fighting each other in the first place.
but there should be some proper investigation so that public should not start fighting each other
i know there is nothing 100% sure in real world but then why are the courts
where are the investigation agencies of Pakistan
why we are put in the situation where we know nothing but have to play the game
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Yup thats where govt. is wrong and majority of ppl don't believe what govt says coz of their long history of lying and playing with the facts...
I guess so far mushy, who's days were numbered is the winner, we successfully created a scenario where every one on the west thinks that Mush is the answer!!!
although we are not sure about this as well
although personally i don't like mush but still i am not sure to blame musharaf for all this
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although we are not sure about this as well although personally i don't like mush but still i am not sure to blame musharaf for all this
iam not blaming mush.. thats y i said WE created a scenario, where he is winner...
anyway, the news is all the western countries and mission have abandoned their work in Balochistan and NWFP....
so now i guess our mullahs will be more than happier coz no more help for vicutms of earthquake and floods
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iam not blaming mush.. thats y i said WE created a scenario, where he is winner...
anyway, the news is all the western countries and mission have abandoned their work in Balochistan and NWFP....
so now i guess our mullahs will be more than happier coz no more help for vicutms of earthquake and floods
i don't know what will happen to Pakistan, i am really worried and confuse
it is true that scenario have been created and he had been shown winner
today as well attack on security forces and blame straight on mullahs , no investigation but allegation , and after few our we will listen that this is done by musharaf etc etc
blame game is going on and on
and in this blame game , victioms are always inocent people
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i am really confused how i will be sure that these attacks are by Mullah, or govt , we see no investigation , but as soon as the attack happens people start saying , this is due to the lal masjid etc etc
why it can't be from indians
When is the last time you saw an Indian blow himself up?
Suicide attacks are only done by 3 groups
1) Tamil Tigers - but they have never done any attacks in Pakistan
2) Palestinian communists - but they have never done any attacks in Pakistan
3) People inspired by mullahs
Name 1 suicide bombing done by anyone other than one of these three groups? Suicide bombing is just not a tactic ever used by India.
And every time there has been a suicide bombing in Pakistan in the past, the police have always identified an extremist Islamic group to be responsible based on who the bomber, once identified, had associated with.
No suicide bomber in Pakistan has ever been found to associate with Indian intelligence forces. They have always been found to associate with extremist Islamic groups.
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When is the last time you saw an Indian blow himself up?
and how do you know these are suicide blasts
plz give any court verdicts
any proof
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Suicide attacks are only done by 3 groups
1) Tamil Tigers - but they have never done any attacks in Pakistan
2) Palestinian communists - but they have never done any attacks in Pakistan
3) People inspired by mullahs
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and you forgot , any one can be forced to do so
for example , someone put gun on head of your children , and give you option , die with your children or go and die in public area by this way , your children will remain safe, you might prefer to die with your children , but most do not
without proper investigation , one must not blame anyone
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Name 1 suicide bombing done by anyone other than one of these three groups? Suicide bombing is just not a tactic ever used by India.
And every time there has been a suicide bombing in Pakistan in the past, the police have always identified an extremist Islamic group to be responsible based on who the bomber, once identified, had associated with.
No suicide bomber in Pakistan has ever been found to associate with Indian intelligence forces. They have always been found to associate with extremist Islamic groups.
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due to lack of investigation
if they do proper investigation , then we will be able to say anything
but remember that sign who was hanged , he was not islamic militant
when proper investigation was carried out , he found out to be indian terrorist and was carrying out terrorist activities in Pakistan
if he can then why not his other collegues can do the same