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Why do you want to make more osama's? Stop your stupid conversion game.Ever thought why most of the muslims are so screwed up?
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Why do you want to make more osama's? Stop your stupid conversion game.Ever thought why most of the muslims are so screwed up?
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but still you havent answered that why would non muslims burn in hell fire.
Khud ka pata nahin hain aur lage hain doosro ko hell fire se bachane main
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Kaka! There are vary of opinions amongst scholars. Some scholars say:
- if a person was not presented Islam in the proper manner/in its true form, then they will not be held accountable and they will be tested by Almighty Allah on the Day of Judgement to see how they would have acted if they received the right message.
- Some others say who worshipped other than Almighty Allah! that person will go in hell or one who face-offed choosing the right path.
The good way to look at as well in general, so when we go outside we are not in search to look down on anyone. A non-muslim we see, who know maybe they will turn out better than us in the end! like Hazrat Omar RA was loved by Almighty Allah even before he was Muslim.
chintu_bhopali! Shut-up.
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^^ Thanks for the reply.
What i want to say is this is your belief. and i respect that. Different people and religions have different beliefs. no body knows who is right , we all hold on to our faiths.
but why do you want to impose it on others.
I dont have problems in your believe in what you believe then why would you not respect what i believe and try to convert me.
you know what i mean
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I think in this day an age, I'd much rather focus on improving myself and positively impact another muslim than inviting a non muslim toward Islam. Allah will also be asking us how many muslim brothers and sisters we helped? I'll first start with myself, then my children....
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^^ Best post so far my friend. Thats what i expect from every one from every religion or atheists.
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I think in this day an age, I'd much rather focus on improving myself and positively impact another muslim than inviting a non muslim toward Islam. Allah will also be asking us how many muslim brothers and sisters we helped? I'll first start with myself, then my children....
works both ways doesn't it?
The majority of the far eastern countries that inhabit muslims today became muslim (it is proven through history) after experiencing morals, values and manners of the arab traders that conducted business with them. So it was not an open Invite, rather the interaction.
so if we focus on ourselves and our fellow muslims, the non-muslims should ask us themselves about what is driving this behavior. Obviously the actions need to be genuine. Fake show won't work.
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Now some outward invites do need to be there..but again that is best done if some one you see who is really seeking God or a booth where the purpose is to invite to Islam.
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wow.. you guys are so obsessed with converting other in to your faith. Is there a commission you get or something? i wonder how you would feel if some foreigner in your country comes and starts converting your people.
anyways, if you want to convert me then you will have to bring allah in front of me. i take no man's words.
Kaka we are not obsessed with converting nor is it giving us any advantage, its that at least if its me I have feeling for other persons too and if they are my friends and I know what is gonna happen in the end I will definitely try my best to get back to them on right track. Thats what my feelings are towards converting other people. For example my best friend is american and I love her. And she is not so religious but sometimes she is interested, if I don't preach Islam to her but I pray for her that one day she might convert so she and me are gonna together in Jannah.
if you want to convert me then you will have to bring allah in front of me. i take no man's words
For this question don't take any man's word look around yourself ; do you think these sufferings,blessing happen on there own? Answer one question do you think Adam was bought into this world on his own or if you don't belief Adam then tell me how was the first man born?
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Kaka we are not obsessed with converting nor is it giving us any advantage, its that at least if its me I have feeling for other persons too and if they are my friends and I know what is gonna happen in the end I will definitely try my best to get back to them on right track. Thats what my feelings are towards converting other people. For example my best friend is american and I love her. And she is not so religious but sometimes she is interested, if I don't preach Islam to her but I pray for her that one day she might convert so she and me are gonna together in Jannah.
if you want to convert me then you will have to bring allah in front of me. i take no man's words
For this question don't take any man's word look around yourself ; do you think these sufferings,blessing happen on there own? Answer one question do you think Adam was bought into this world on his own or if you don't belief Adam then tell me how was the first man born?
if you want to bring me on right track then i should have right to bring you on right track as well. how do you know if you are right. i may have better chances of being right.
what if i try to convert you and bring you back on "right" path. how will you feel. i see how you gonna end like too, but i dont try to convert you.
i dont believe in adam, i dont agree this judo-christian beliefs.
if you are trying to tell me that there is god because there is suffring then god must not be a good person. afterall if he is incharge then good things should happen. i see religous people suffer all the time. but thats not the point, point is why impose your beliefs on others.
what do you suggest if one of yours want to convert to another religion or rejects yours. would you still nice to him.
if someone else started a similar thread to convert muslims then you would have called it a jew conspiracy.
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if you want to bring me on right track then i should have right to bring you on right track as well. how do you know if you are right. i may have better chances of being right. what if i try to convert you and bring you back on "right" path. how will you feel. i see how you gonna end like too, but i dont try to convert you. i dont believe in adam, i dont agree this judo-christian beliefs. if you are trying to tell me that there is god because there is suffring then god must not be a good person. afterall if he is incharge then good things should happen. i see religous people suffer all the time. but thats not the point, point is why impose your beliefs on others. what do you suggest if one of yours want to convert to another religion or rejects yours. would you still nice to him. if someone else started a similar thread to convert muslims then you would have called it a jew conspiracy.
If I see that you are not ready I will not try to convert you; I said before at the end of day according to my beliefs I can pray for you which doesn't hurt your ego.
if you are trying to tell me that there is god because there is suffring then god must not be a good person. afterall if he is incharge then good things should happen. i see religous people suffer all the time. but thats not the point, point is why impose your beliefs on others
I must have said something wrong I am sorry let me be clear. God doesn't give sufferings to human beings bring on to themselves because of their own acts. As far as imposing religion to other people as a muslim its our responsibility to provide you knowledge but not enforce you .It will be your choice to accept it. Our work is done here you know what Islam means and that was my job now its up to you man accept it or reject it.
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If I see that you are not ready I will not try to convert you; I said before at the end of day according to my beliefs I can pray for you which doesn't hurt your ego.
if you are trying to tell me that there is god because there is suffring then god must not be a good person. afterall if he is incharge then good things should happen. i see religous people suffer all the time. but thats not the point, point is why impose your beliefs on others
I must have said something wrong I am sorry let me be clear. God doesn't give sufferings to human beings bring on to themselves because of their own acts. As far as imposing religion to other people as a muslim its our responsibility to provide you knowledge but not enforce you .It will be your choice to accept it. Our work is done here you know what Islam means and that was my job now its up to you man accept it or reject it.
thanks for the reply but you havent answered anything i asked.
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thanks for the reply but you havent answered anything i asked.
What questions like why we impose our religion to you I told you thats in our book that you must aware everyone of deen Islam
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^^ What does it say about munafaquat?
sorry this was originally for letal kameez but he ran away after opening this thread.
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one thing that will not work - when you lose an argument, you run away saying "may allah guide you blah blah" or "your heart has been blocked". this is a confession of having no real answers.
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Implicit in any religious conversion is the belief that this the only true/right religion and every other religion is useless. However, I have not seen or heard a single thing so far that puts any one religion above others.
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i guess come up with convincing answers to basic questions like
what does God get out of testing humans?
God is every where.
It is up to us to decide what way we choose. and if you chose the right, rational path then God will help to be on that track, no matter what
that how rational we are to accept that He is the Boss of every boss. There is no way all this universe, this earth, complex human mechanism can be created by itself.
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anyways, if you want to convert me then you will have to bring Allah in front of me. i take no man's words.
are you sure you have enough eyes to see ALLAH SWT????
i can bet you cant even stare sun (you god) for five minutes, let alone the God that even created sun :p
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your god is a myth, zobia. i have better answers.
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your God is a myth, zobia. i have better answers.
and what are your answers????