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**Ah.. choti choti khushiyaaN hamaree! *
The thread was going so nice and steady before** Mohtaram Madhanee decided to make an entrance... :-)**
Now, I have a feeling where the thread will go.... (and its not a nice feeling, either).
Kher... lets see.
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LoLzzzzz
Re: Re: Re: Re: How to make religion forum better …ethics of disagreeing with others
nothign wrong with that but being polite is the best way. Being aggressive and arrogant wont make other people understand your point… And there were cases here where people were unnecesserily aggressive on either side.
Re: Re: Re: Re: How to make religion forum better .......ethics of disagreeing with others
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*Originally posted by inuit: *
saby this is not a fight/war like thing. its simply a debate on internet. dont campare it with those who kill others in mosques during worship.
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I m not comparing it with such incidents BUT even the internet discussions certain limits which are often crossed here.
Asalam o Alakum,
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*Originally posted by SalmanNY: *
People take sides of those or just stay quite when they see a person typing bad out of his mouth about prophet saw and his family. I hate that.
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This is the worst condition here. When you see his lots of posts on other issues, above all that this thing proves your point more especially when you see something in favor of those people who are type bad words against Prophet(A) and his Ahe Bait(A) in other posts or in some other threads.
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nothign wrong with that but being polite is the best way. Being aggressive and arrogant wont make other people understand your point... And there were cases here where people were unnecesserily aggressive on either side.
I m not comparing it with such incidents BUT even the internet discussions certain limits which are often crossed here.
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I agree with you on both of your above points. Thanks
bao bihari can add these points in his first post. SHIA SUNNI DEBATE
(1) Either side should be polite
(2) Research should be authentic, to the point, and well organized. if don’t have much time simply don’t make a post, just PM. although I myself is lazy in checking my PMs
(3) a single post which is useful and full of research work is much better than making 10 post which are useless. Always think twice before making a post. always try to add few line by yourself if you are appreciating the other person's work and saying in JazakAllah.
(4) Doesn’t matter if you copying some relevant material for the discussion from some other site. but try to explain in your own words, make it short, edit, remove irrelevant paragraphs and lines, and post as an another, as it is not leading the discussion to some other direction which is not desired by the initiator of the thread.
(5) Work for Emaan of yourself and other, not simply to defeat others to show your knowledge. This is Ria (dikhawa). Spend time with the niyyah that your are doing Ibadat to discussion, learn from others, and guide others
(6) If you think that the topic is already being discussed give reference of that thread not only inside GUPISTAN but other web forums also. If you have time. Make a summary of that discussion. From both sides and post. Compile the work in a better way to present
(7) Trust is the first step to learn. Always simply saying that you are telling tie or making false statements or giving incorrect references is a bad habbit. This is for either side (shia and Sunni) Go and check first OR ask somebody who has already checked it. This is the first hurdle to understand others opinion.
(8) While discussing or debate Shias must have to give reference from Quran & Sunnies (OR opposite sects) books. And Sunnis must have to provide reference from Quran & Shias books. This is the basic Usool of Munazara (debate). If there is no reference give logic and discuss Philosophically using Akal. and struggle to find reasons. in this way both sect would come close to each other and better understanding will be built up. Otherwise useless to speak.
I hope other members will add some more points or correct these points which i have posted. And brother bao bihari will keep track of it to make a final document. If there is a point to discuss better we a make a separate thread with the reference of this thread for good documentation. Increasing the size of Gupshup database, which is providing this free opportunity, is not nice. More searching for general users would be very difficult. However I think some of the users would not be agreed on this point because they come to Gupshup forum for simply Gug Shup. but I say, what is bad if we spend our Gupshup time in some useful way.
I request the founder of other threads to pause the discussion until we all reach at some rules for which, brother bao bihari has started this thread. Otherwise will messed up and there would be no control. Be careful of those who want to spoil the environment. Wasalam
Great points.. unfortunately we are neither as regimented as some would like, nor plan to be, atleast for the forseeable future. All, we can realistically hope for (and even that is a stretch at times) is that people engage in discussions in a civil manner. :-)
So, basically you all have to pick your discussions and your discussion partners yourselves.
Good luck.
Nurmah and Saby,
Thanks you two flowers