How susceptible are you to propaganda?

Peter Muller is a true nationalist. He’s a patriot of the highest order who believes in the basics of all that is good, right and decent in this world.

He wakes up every morning, sits down to a home breakfast meal prepared by his wife, and after saying grace, his daughter and son both join the parents in finishing up their meal before heading out to the businesses of their day.

After the meal, Mr. Muller helps clean up, drops the kids to school and rushes on ahead to his government duties for the day, duties he knows he must do, for the betterment, security of his fellow countrymen.

Mr. Muller fully stands behind his government’s policies and supports them at every gathering and get together. People know him to be a good person, helpful, gentlemanly and cultured.

Mr. Muller is a loyal and supportive citizen of his country. He stands behind his country’s decicions and knows, that if there was ever light of true enlightenment and civilization were to shine in this world, it would have to be from his own nation.

Mr. Muller, everyday after reading, watching and hearing with eagerness and loyalty the day’s events about his country’s affairs, goes to work with a new zest, knowing that by his efforts as an individual, can he truly be useful for his nation.

Mr. Muller is a soldier in the wehrmacht whose job includes running the incineration machineries in the concentration camps running in top order so as to maximise the number of Jews ‘liberated’ for the betterment of all.

Mr. Muller was not the only one who did all of this for the fatherland. There were countless millions, who being taken under the spell of an ideology, went on a rampage of destruction unseen in history…

Never was propaganda used so skillfully to move a nation to commit heinous acts in the name of civilization and betterment…Until now…

Now, as before, we are slowly being poisoned whom to hate…Whom to place all our ills on…Whom to blame for the world’s misery…The recession, the uneasiness, the unrest…

Who is the target of propaganda this time? Who do we feel like avoiding? Who do we feel like blaming in most situations? Who do we call names the most? Who do we try to spite the most?

Muslims of course…The more Muslim a person is, the more the propaganda works…We see a Muslim drinking sitting next to a Muslim praying, we despise the praying Muslim more…We see a Muslim GF/BF walking down the street holding hands, but we despise the bearded and the Hijaban more…

Because the propaganda has started to take effect…Not only for the Kuffar, but for the Muslims as well…Everytime the propaganda starts wearing thin, something comes up…And an image of a Muslim pops up in our head…Everytime the color coded fear changes, we imagine a Muslim doing it…

When we hear an argument between two people, and realize one of the guys is a Muslim, guess who we automatically assume to be at fault? Whenever something nasty happens to a Muslim, we are like, ‘hmmm, he deserved it’. but when something happens to a Kuffar, we are aghast and blame a Muslim…

This could be a good presentation of how Lajawab sees the world around him, or it could well be his rant…All depends on how well you have been trained to think…

Mr. Muller did everything he did because he was trained to think that way…He realized that for the fatherland to succeed and for the world to be a better place, Jews must be annihilated…They must be made extinct in order for the world to become a better place for everyone…

So, Mr. Muller, as a very conscientious person, out of concern for his fellow citizens and the welfare of the world, proceeded to extiguish the lives of thousands of Jews…Because they were a plague upon society…He had read and heard many articles how the Jews plotted and planned to destroy Germany and take over the world…

He could quote textbook examples of how Germany has suffered due to the Jews and how this war against the Jews was justified to bring peace, justice and liberty to everyone…As long as the Jews remained, that was not possible…

So, Mr. Muller, loyally, conscientiously, patriotically did his duty of killing Jews…He did a very good job of it too…He won several awards and was an outstanding citizen of his community…

So, how susceptible are you to propaganda? How many think that the Mullahs should be wiped off the face of the earth for the Muslims and others to lead better lives?

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How many reading this will not see it as propaganda to further the concept of 'woe is the faithful Muslim', chastised and persecuted by the evil west and evil moderate Muslim?

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^^

Nazis and Americanists...

They will see it as an attempt by a Muslim to further cause grievances...All the more reason to shut them up and deal with them...

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Oh please. There are plenty of such people in our own "muslim" community.

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You know this can be applied to almost any group of people. You take one group whose thinking does not match yours and accuse them of falling for propaganda. Plenty of people on this website have come out openly calling for the death and destruction of different peoples.

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By “we”, I assume you’re talking about the ummah and how they have been braiwashed to blame all of their ills on the zionist/cia/neo-con/evangelical-controlled west?

woe are the muslims

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Yes…By the ‘we’ I do mean the Ummah…And yes, many from the Ummah may blame the CIA/Zionists/neo-con e.t.c…

However, the difference being, never have ‘we’ launched wars and attacks based on suspicions and lies…

That is a forte reserved for the intolerant…Like the Nazis and those who justified their atrocities…Justified after each and every lie after lie after lie…Even when circumstances kept changing, the lies kept changing and so did the propaganda…

Are you justifying the deaths of thousands of innocent men, women and children in Iraq with lies?

If you are, then you have no idea how well you have been trained to think…

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Another thread that is going to lead to India vs Pakistan, eventually.

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Really?, tell that to the families of the 3000+ people killed on 9-11 by OBL, described by you as “my herrow” in an earlier post. I suppose next you’re going to tell us that those attacks were in fact perpetrated by the CIA/Zionists/neo-cons e.t.c… too? Then why exactly is Osama “your herrow” then? Is it for declaring any western infidel a legitimate (and obligatory) jihadi target?

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Any Muslim who fights to protect other Muslims is my 'herrow'...Whether he fights the Crusaders like Salahuddin, Fascism like Omar Mukhtar or Osama who fought the Russians and is now fighting a new enemy...

Now, once again Muslim lives and lands are in danger...From America...

Difference is, it's being made to sound like something new...Have we forgotten Vietnam and the millions of innocents dead?

Or is propaganda even leaving you blinded to your own history? Ever read the book 1984?

The proles are really easy to control...Just feed them some bull about good, justice and liberty and they'll lap it up real good and start repeating it to others as well...Like we keepo hearing the same story from every Americanist on this board...

If Nazism was wrong, it was wrong to those who observed it and to those were victims of it...To the Nazis, they could be doing nothing better than making the world a safer and better place to live by killing off the Jews...

So you think the world will be a better place to live after Osama and his people are dead? Dream on...There will be a newer enemy...Someone to replace Osama, just like Osama replaced the Communists...

There will be more cold wars and invasions...

As long as America exports democracy, the world will never be a safe place to live...Nazi...

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^ In all seriousness, why in the world do you live in the US? Your disdain for America and everything it stands for while living off it makes you the biggest hypocrite I can imagine.

While I am all for disent as I think that is absolutely necessary to have in a democracy, by believing Osama is a hero and is fighting the enemy that is a step further and basically makes you an enemy of the United States.

But that is only 2nd on the list of why I consider you the biggest hypocite to speak or post.... You totally ignore the HUGE muslim on muslim and muslim inflicted horrors and speak as if there is one big happy ummah whose only problem is the US.

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propaganda might be the tool but the root is social darwinism and it is sad to know that social darwinism has been established in the ummah's thought process aswell

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Look at it this way…

We are living in the late 30s-early 40s…You are a good German, who loves his country, respects his neighbours, wakes up to go to work and adore your family…You are honest, put a wholesome meal in front of your family and the government has declared that Jews should be exterminated for the good of all…

I am a Jew, who finds the turn of events saddening and threatening to myself…If I speak out against the new mentalities, you have been trained what to think…To you I immediately become a hypocrite, a traitor and a turncoat for speaking out…

Your worst fears are realized…The same ones your government has been warning about…The enemy amongst us…The Jew…

How dare he open his mouth about the fatherland, the very nation that provides him with food and livelihood…How can he complain about what we do with other nations…He is supposed to agree with us otherwise he is a traitor and a hypocrite…

It’s either our way or the highway…The Jews are either with the Nazis or against them…

Unfortunately, some people can see what unfolds before their eyes as they peek through time and history…Others are too blinded by what happens before them…And what they themselves are doing…

Doing the same atrocities as was committed by others…Just with a new title and new means…

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The comparison of yourself to a Jew of the 1930's and the US as the Fatherland is ridiculous and in no way justifies your hatred for the US, its history and the democracy it stands for. From your posts we know what you stand for and if you think the US needs to be changed to fit your view of rigtheousness then you are indeed an enemy of the US. It never has and never will fit your brainwashed views. Your fundamentalist and myopic views make the conservative Christian movement in the US look positively tolerant and inclusive.

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Oh for the love of God, stop playing victim. No one has ever said in the US government, that all muslims need to be exterminated.

Talk about overactive imaginations...

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German people in WWII era went through the same situation what Americans are going through right now. They were told that they are at war and anyone who is against the govt is unpatriotic. It reminds me of a quote by Hermann Goering, Hitler's No. 2 man, before being sentenced to death at the Nuremberg trials.

** Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.**

The fire of Reichstag (German parliament) was the excuse Hitler needed to blame Jews and communists. With the support of a terrified populace, they suspended civil rights and civil liberties, fattened their war machine and rode the fascist tide into a full-blown dictatorship. The rest, as they say, is history.
Bush’s 9/11 is Hitler’s Reichstag fire!

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^^

Aye...

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dude.. only muslims living on oil are affected.. or those who might hinder the killing of muslims living on oil.. u don't see Muslims in India suffer at the hands of the USA? do you? .. while u were supposed to go register like sex offenders, they continued to go in and out of the USA without demeaning delays at immigration.

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Does anyone remember Gulf of Tonkin?

I only mention since we are talking about how history is repeated by those who refuse to learn from it.