How Pak, Indian IT sectors can cooperate

Friday, March 25, 2011

PUNE: Pakistan’s information technology sector may appear nascent when compared with India’s large talent pool, huge base of manpower in IT services business and its exports of over $50 billion. Pakistani entrepreneurs have, however, made their mark by developing products for niche applications and in fact made product development capabilities a major strength of their country. Dileep Athavale spoke to Ganesh Natarajan, vice chairman, Zensar Technologies, who is the mission leader from the Indian side for the IT committee of Aman ki Asha, and Amin Hashwani, director of Pakistan’s Hashwani Group of Industries, who led the Pakistani representatives, to know from them the possibilities of the two countries helping each other to maximise value addition.

Interview with Ganesh Natarajan: ‘Pakistan can emerge as a worthy global partner in IT space’.

The News: What’s your perception about Pakistan’s strides in IT?

Ganesh Natarajan: Pakistan has done a creditable job in building a product and intellectual property (IP) based industry with a couple of firms even listed on the Nasdaq – their products are worth considering for Indian firms as our domestic and export customers look at more solutions from us.

TN: What are the factors that are common between IT businesses in India and in Pakistan?

GN: The entrepreneurial spirit, the willingness to take global risks and the capabilities of young people are common factors.

TN: What are the differences in the ways IT sector operates in the two countries?

GN: India has emerged as a wonderful location for building offshore centres – Pakistan has many real and perceived challenges and hence their growth trajectory has to be through IP creation.

TN: Where can India help, thanks to its longer and deeper understanding of the sector?

GN: India can help in skills development in product design and testing and can also build symbiotic partnerships between our services firms and product firms in Pakistan.

TN: In which way can the two countries work together?

GN: We need to look at joint engagements initially in markets like Saudi Arabia, China and even mature Western markets. We can also offer our significant expertise in e-governance. India’s experience in projects such as unique identity (UID) can help Pakistan build connected societies. All in all, if the security and political environment permits, Pakistan can emerge as a worthy global partner in the IT space.

Interview with Amin Hashwani: ‘Pak IT companies can learn scaling up, br.a.n.d.i.ng and fund raising from Indian counterparts’.

TN: What’s the present state of IT sector in Pakistan?

Amin Hashwani: The IT sector in Pakistan is dynamic, innovative and is still growing at around 25 percent annually.

TN: How is the IT consumption moving in terms of sales of personal computers, internet penetration or software absorption?

AH: The IT consumption in banking, pharmaceuticals, insurance, telecoms, education and healthcare is strong but internet penetration is about 20 million against 100 million telecoms users.

TN: How well entrenched is the multinational corporations’ presence in Pakistan?

AH: All major IT multinationals are present in Pakistan for the past few decades – IBM, Oracle, Cisco, Microsoft, Terradata, Intel and HP are the well settled players, with Google being the latest addition, which happened last year.

TN: What’s the level of IT absorption in the government? Has e-governance taken shape in Pakistan?

AH: IT absorption level in Pakistan’s government bodies is fairly high. Major arms of government like the country’s Federal Board of Revenue, State Bank of Pakistan, Securities Exchanges Commission of Pakistan (SECP), Board of Investments are all live online. The different ministries are also online but they are not still using the online model as effectively as the other organisations.

TN: How well are Pakistan’s women participating in the country’s IT advancement?

AH: Women account for about 15 percent of Pakistan’s IT force. However, they are making a significant contribution. Pakistan’s IT association is headed by a woman. A large number of project managers are women. Many user experience and quality assurance managers are also women.

TN: Is there something for Pakistan to gain from India’s capability and long experience in IT?

AH: Absolutely! Although, most Pakistani companies are in the products space as opposed to services business and in many cases a hybrid model, there is much to learn from Indian IT in terms of scaling, in terms of b.r.a.n.d.ing and in terms of fund raising.

The IT sector globally transcends borders and nations in connecting people, businesses and societies. To bring together IT companies from India and Pakistan this initiative to explore economic and social opportunities for the benefit of both people should be a priority. There are some world class IT companies in Pakistan that are willing to explore business possibilities with their Indian counterparts.
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Re: How Pak, Indian IT sectors can cooperate

we should cooperate with india but first we need to solve outstanding issues like Kashmir.

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Word. Give Kashmiris the right to self-determination. Simple.

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^Yes.. That’s right. For that pls pull out from POK according to U.N resolution. :slight_smile: :k: All other determination will follow… :champ:

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Don’t do the country any favors, it’s not like it’s something that’s only beneficial to india, as a matter of fact, it can develop and progress without this on its own…it could benefit both. meh

who cares for peace, progress and development. keep fighting the same fight, status quo shall be maintained no matter what! :k:

most of all, i love the fact that south asia is known as one of the most dangerous places b/c of all the suicide bombings and attacks. keep it that way forever…til both countries destroy each other over this, then nothing’s left to fight over and neither country is left to keep the fight going.

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UN resolutions require both to pull out at the same time. Pakistan does not need to pull out first. Pakistan has agreed to pull out. India never has.

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We have had this at length first in Gupshup's old Kashmir Forum' (I remember you had had lengthy posts on the subjects..I am referring to year 2001-2002 period).and inW.A'. Even we folks are not able to determine it ,let alone the two countries... So now the issue is simple. Neither side is ready to pull out. let the matter be rested there :)

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it's just so onesided this basic human right. balochis are what, klingon or something. give them their balochistan, i saw videos of so many protesting but no their struggle is crap and something that drunks are leading

if you see kashmiri muslims as human then see balochis as such too.

it's double standards that's what it is and so very very hypocritical. tired of the same old online warriors talking the same stuff over and over and over again. it's not like anything can be done from behind a PC.

This seems like news that brings about something new and change, while the 60+ yr old complicated issues are being sorted out, this can happen too, it's not either this or that. or it doesn't have to be. but hey i'm just an outsider looking in, thought i would post up some sweet news.

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Just curious - what's in it for India ?

Cooperation is good, but it should be linked to Pakistan controlling cross-border terrorism.

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wtf?? is it IT co-operation or kashmir dispute??

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all good news about india and pakistan peace, progress gets turned into a kashmir issue thread

change the title mod jis :p

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Lets tackle the problems one by one. First and foremost thing for pakistan is to somehow stop atrocities committed by more than 900000 indian soldiers in occupied Kashmir. Its just too shameful for pakistanis and even for kashmiris to live under the rule of indians, i mean they dont even look like indians, they speak different language, different religion. it is a big shame.

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manbearpig, if you substitute kashmir with balochistan in your post, you get a real issue you could do something about. good luck.

as for the topic, way too many hurdles. its bad enough with the bureaucratic gymnastics being indian and trying to start a company up. if you wan't to build cross-border dependencies on prosperity, start with land-based trade. a robust trade route that existed for millenia got clogged up with indo-pak hostilities. revive that for starters instead of IT and human-contact intensive sectors..

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Yeah back in those days and even afterwards it was argued to death. However the text stands as it is. It does not ask for Pakistan to vacate first. Pakistan has always maintained both can withdraw and move towards a referendum.

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Leave this behind for a mo - I got a ticket for semi final - get me the bloody visa first :emmy:

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Trade is already underway between the two countries, they even have a dedicated truck passage specially for this. the end of March and April will tell us if it is successful and has a potential for being long lasting. God be with the truck drivers and security forces of both india and pakistan that will be protecting them

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/world-affairs/484902-a-push-to-open-up-trade-along-the-india-pakistan-border.html

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The resolution clearly aks for troops withdrwal.

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What are some well known Pakistani IT companies?

Do Pakistani companies borrow expertise from India? For example, a very common thing here in the US is for consultants from India come in for specific projects. Do Indian consultants go to Pakistan?

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now that we got all that ‘kashmir’ stuff out of our system

list of pakistani Telecommunication and IT/Technology companies

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