How many of u say masturbation is wrong?

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Originally posted by secret_obsession:
**how do people do it??? why is equal to adultery.
if there isnt any other person involve..

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i have the same question plzz let us knwoi


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secret obsession - almost every american is diagnosed with some psychological problem or the other.

And that i'm serious about. There are names of psychological disorders for everything - and most people do get depressed or down or unconfident or bored some time or another.

Thus, I think I'm right. Sorry that you dont agree - but hmmm tho mein kya karoon?

I will be very honest to you. NO, I don’t do it, and I have also NEVER tried to do it. And now don’t say that every one does it, that ain’t true

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I know america is known for its unmoralistic qualities..but, not everyone born in america is of the same thinking or values.
I was born in america,and i love its benefits…but i dont vote, i dont agree with many of the choices our leader/congress makes.
Yes at one time masturb. was considered a problem in america, now it is widely accepted mostly due to the influence that started with pop singers like madonna

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, and other influences in the writing of books…

My stand on this is:I dont agree with masturb…

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Play Your Game - Guess My Motto

i believe medically there is no harm in masturbation, but i would rank someone who is addicted to it as a psycho. One who does it more often, in my opinion should really see some psychiatrist some day.

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Originally posted by pumpkin:
**i believe medically there is no harm in masturbation, but i would rank someone who is addicted to it as a psycho. One who does it more often, in my opinion should really see some psychiatrist some day.

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What if someone has sex with the same rate? Come on!


AND WHEN IT IS SAID TO THEM: "DO NOT MAKE MISCHIEF ON THE EARTH", THEY SAY "WE ARE ONLY PEACE-MAKERS" VERILY, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO MAKES MISCHIEF, BUT THEY PERCEIVE NOT"-[Qur'an-2:11-12]

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Originally posted by cooldude1234:
** secret obsession ...don't mind me asking...how old r u??**
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I am 19, old enough to be in corner room.

PyariCgudia: where you got this information from?

and Chris_Wazir, americans are not immoral, it's just that standards of morality are different.

Yeah so how many people here have grown up in America and tried to be muslim at the same time? If the only solution to releasing sexual tension is by marrying the poor kid off, then you are going to have ALOT of teenie couples running around and we KNOW that can't be good.

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Originally posted by albino_paki:
Yeah so how many people here have grown up in America and tried to be muslim at the same time? If the only solution to releasing sexual tension is by marrying the poor kid off, then you are going to have ALOT of teenie couples running around and we KNOW that can't be good.
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Better than sinning.


*Pyaar Bhi Zindagi Ki Tarah Hota Hay.
Hur Mor Asan Nahin Hota, Hur Mor Pay Khushi Nahin Milti;
Pur Jub Hum Zindagi Ka Saath Nahin Chortay To Pyaar Ka Saath Kyon Chorayn. *

Originally posted by pumpkin:
i believe medically there is no harm in masturbation, but i would rank someone who is addicted to it as a psycho. One who does it more often, in my opinion should really see some psychiatrist some day.

aww somebody is offended by pumkin’s comment about visiting psychiatrist ..
I wonder why?

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In this thread some ppl said “most islamic scholors say this…” non toke any name ? where are the names with those statements ? where is any hadees or a quranic verse? just what u think is mentioned as “Islam says yes or No”

some one said its like rape, i dont know about it but consider if the man actually goes out & rape someone?.. would that be better or just sit where u are & do masturbation ?

On the other hand, its waste of time, leaves u in a state of “Napaki” & ofcourse if u fantasise urself with imagining with some real person u know …this will bring u no where but in the psycological problems.

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Right? Wrong? Don't Care?

Personally I don't have any feeling about it one way or another. However as a mother, I had rather my young unmarried kids do that, instead of going out and getting pregnant, or getting someone pregnant.

Brenda


Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!!!

There is absolutely nothing wrong with masturbation. I think it is wrong to bring Islam into everything !!

How many of u say masturbation is wrong?

they will all do as long as you dont put a spy camera in there beds n bathroom.

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Originally posted by LahoriMaharani:
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now you are wrong there mahraani ji,
it only happens to the morally corrupted and guys with weak faith, besides it all depend on how far you let your desires drag you and what your mind has been occupied by.

**For those who think abt sex all the time plz go n join some gem or learn martial art or spend your time and energy in a kind of creativity which don’t put you in a postion where you end up rapin yourself

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There is nothing wrong with it, afterall you are not harming another person, neither yourself. Maybe too much of it could make you depressed but I think it's another way to avoid premarital sex.

Masturbation is Haraam and a major sin.

This is the ruling of the four Madhaahibs . Maliki, Shafée, Hanafee and
one riwaayah (narration) from Imaam Hanbalee. They have drawn their
conclusions from the following proofs:

PROOFS FROM THE QURÃN
* Allah Taãla says:
'And those who guard their private parts from their wives and those
(slave-girls) which their right-hands own - so there is no blame upon them.
Then whoever seeks beyond that (which is lawful), they are the
transgressors.

The intended meaning of these Aayat is clear. Allah Taãla has praised the
believers for guarding their private parts from that which He has made
forbidden for them. Allah has permitted them to approach their wives and
slave-girls. Thereafter, these words of Allah Taãla follow: 'Whoever seeks
beyond that which is lawful are oppressors who overstep from Halaal towards Haraam

Hafiz ibn Katheer (RA) writes Imaam Shaafée (RA) and those who have agreed
with him have concluded that masturbation is Haraam from this Aayat.' He
says: 'Masturbation is excluded from these two types which Allah has made
Halaal, viz. wives and slave-girls.

  • Similarly, these Fuqahaa (Jurists) have drawn their conclusion from the following Aayat: 'And those who do not find the means to marry should remain chaste until Allah gives them resources by His grace.'

This Aayat shows masturbation to be Haraam because of two reasons: Firstly,
in this Aayat Allah Taãla has given the command of chastity and, according
to the principles of Fiqh, a command (an imperative) denotes Wujoob
(incumbency, obligation). Hence to remain chaste is Waajib (compulsory) and
wherever chastity is Waajib it becomes Waajib to refrain from that which is
contrary to it, for example, adultery, fornication, and sodomy. This is due
to the fact that obligatory chastity will not materialise except by complete
refrainment from all that which is contrary to chastity.
Secondly: in this Aayat, Allah Taãla has made chastity obligatory on those
who are unable to execute the command of Nikah. Here Allah Taãla has not
determined any connection or link between marriage and chastity. Hence, this
demands that masturbation should be Haraam. And if assuming, it was
permissible, then Allah Taãla would have mentioned it at this point because
this was the place of explanation. The silence maintaned by Allah Taãla with
regard to it at a place which requires its explanation, denotes that
masturbation is Haraam.

Imaam Qurtubi (RA) has written in the Tafseer of this Aayat: 'And when Allah
Taãla has not determined any order between Nikah and chastity, then this
shows that besides these two, everything else is Haraam. However, this
Hurmat (unlawfulness) does not include slave-girls because another command
of the Qurãn makes them Mubaah (permissible), 'That which the right-hands earn (i.e. slave-girls).' Hence, in this manner
an addition of slave-girl has come. Masturbation, however still remains
Haraam.
'Those who seek beyond this (i.e. wives and slave-girls) are transgressors.'
(Maãrij 31)

Under the Tafseer of this Aayat, Qaadhi Thanaullah Paani Patti writes:
'Imaam Baghawi has deduced from this Aayat that masturbation is Haraam.'

PROOFS FROM AHAADITH
* Similarly, the Fuqahaa have drawn their conclusion from a Hadith reported
by Abdullah bin Masóod (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) in Bukhari and Muslim. He reports
that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, 'O group of youth!
Whoever from among you can marry should do so because it keeps the gaze low
and it protects the private parts. And he who cannot marry should make it
compulsory upon himself to fast because it breaks lust.'
Nabi (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) directed the person who is incapable of
bearing the burden on Nikah towards Sawm (fasting). If assuming,
masturbation was permissible, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) would
have mentioned it at this point. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam)
however maintained silence. Hence, this indicates that masturbation is
Haraam because silence at the place of explanation gives the benefit of
restriction.

  • Some of the Fuqahaa have drawn their conclusion from a narration reported by Hasan bin Arfah that Nabi (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, 'Seven persons are such that Allah will not look at them on the Day of Qiyaamat nor will He purify them nor will He include them among the learned and Allah will enter them into Jahannam. They will enter Jahannam first except for those who repent. As those who repent Allah will accept their repentance.
  1. A person who masturbates.
  2. A person who performs the act of sodomy.
  3. The person upon whom the act of sodomy is performed.
  4. A perpetual drunkard.
  5. The person who hits his parents so much that they appeal for help.
  6. The person who harms his neighbours so much so that they curse him.
  7. The person who commits adultery with his neighbour's wife. (Ibn Katheer vol. 5 p. 458)

Hadhrat Anas (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu
Álayhi Wasallam) said, 'The person who performs Nikah with his hands (i.e.
masturbates) is cursed. (Tafseer Mazhari vol. 12 p. 94)

SAYINGS OF OUR PIOUS PREDECESSORS WITH REGARD TO MASTURBATION
* Saéed bin Jubayr (Radhiallaahu Ánhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu
Álayhi Wasallam) said, 'Allah Taãla will inflict a punishment on a group of
people because they played with their private parts.'
* Attaa (RA) says, 'Some people will be resurrected in such a condition that
their hands will be pregnant, I think they are those who masturbate.'

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai