I can't imagine any woman putting up with that kind of garbage. Sounds like men that just want to have sex with a number of women.
As to windows. Most women work now, and hardly need to take some other women's scraps to live.
Maybe this is were the differences in religions come in. I have always been taught that it should be one man, with one woman. Yes, of course people cheat on each other, but it isn't condoned. I really don't see how anyone could have true, totally commited love for more than one person.
Personally I have problems sharing the bathroom with my kids, so I think I would really have a problem sharing a husband with other women.
It’s funny, when I discuss this issue with my Muslim female friends, we all agree we have no problems as long as the husband truly treats EACH wife absolutely equally.
Why is it that, even despite polygamy being permissible in Islam, that more females are converting to Islam than males? I guess they must all desperately want to be oppressed
And the majority of them are NOT converting merely because their husbands are Muslims. Check out various US-based news articles regarding this and you’ll note that there are a substantial number of single females who are converting to Islam.
Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest ~ Quran XIII.28
I COMMEND women like brenda to have the courage to speak their mind! We need more brendas to enforce tangible changes!
More women are converting because more muslim immigrants are choosing to marry non-muslims who then convert! Maybe, they realize that their own muslimas will be there for them as second, third or fourth wives!
Most or overwhelming women ABUSE takes place in rural reas where nobody can hear them scream or everybody minds their own business!
Consider yourselves lucky!
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Originally posted by bcsm57:
**I can't imagine any woman putting up with that kind of garbage. Sounds like men that just want to have sex with a number of women.
As to windows. Most women work now, and hardly need to take some other women's scraps to live.
Maybe this is were the differences in religions come in. I have always been taught that it should be one man, with one woman. Yes, of course people cheat on each other, but it isn't condoned. I really don't see how anyone could have true, totally commited love for more than one person.
Personally I have problems sharing the bathroom with my kids, so I think I would really have a problem sharing a husband with other women.
Brenda
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Your post came across more as a cheap shot than anything else. I presume you have done an extensive study on Islam and the concept of polygamy in it to be making such judgements?
Islam permits polygamy. Islam dont NOT make it mandatory.
For some reason, people unaware of the concept seem to thikn that every muslim male from '3rd world opressed backward muslim countries' has 4 wives. If thats your thinking, then it will take more than just an argument to make you understand the reality.
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Originally posted by Adbulmalick: Most or overwhelming women ABUSE takes place in rural reas where nobody can hear them scream or everybody minds their own business!
Consider yourselves lucky!
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Funny....that women ABUSE in rural areas is not limited to muslims but to all religions and all PLACES.
Women are abused by them moronic hicks and rednecks in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, by those hindu's in INDIA, by budhists in CHINA, by christians in EUROPE, by zulu's in AFRICA....you name a place rural enough and you`ll probably find some cases of female abuse over these....
Its called lack of education buddy, not religion. Islam doesnt permit abuse of females.
ABUSE = Unjust Hardship
Really AbdulMalick..what is your real name ? For AbdulMalick doesnt fit you at all.....
I read the first link that was provided and this is what it says:
The vast majority of converts are African-Americans, who make up about a third of Muslims in the United States. Thousands find Allah while in jail or in recovery from drug or alcohol addiction. Less familiar are the lapsed Catholics and lost Jews, often highly educated professionals, who come to the mosque.
Many convert because they want to marry a Muslim who demands it, a common reason for conversions in any religion.
“I would never have changed if it wasn’t for Rania,” David Nerviani, a St. Louis police officer, said of his Egyptian-born wife, a bartender he met on patrol. “It’s probably not that deep for me.”
Others find Islam through friendships on college campuses, research papers on world religions or trolling the Internet.
Some just feel called. Abdullah Reda of Reston, Va., said the news of Susan Smith, the South Carolina woman who drowned her two sons, brought him to Islam. A 13-year-old California girl had an epiphany during a sunset drive through the red rocks of Arizona. Katie Mathews, a graduate student at Washington University in St. Louis, who plans to make her Shahadah on her 23rd birthday in November, prayed for a sign and soon saw a license plate, “4 ALLAH.”
The blacks find in Islam the Allah’s ways to get even with the whiteys:
“Slay them (kafirs whiteys) whereevr you may find them.”
Islam as the fastest growing religion in the world has more & DIRECTLY more to do with the muslim’s high birth rate:
Conquer the world either by the sword or by out-procreating the others.
I am looking at the historical circumstances for which this verse was revealed and today's environment.
I am also taking into account that MOST men are incapable of treating their wives materially AND emotionally equally. This has even been stated in the Quran according to anti-polygamy arguments that very few men are able to treat any two people equally. You will almost always find one person better than the other from your acquaintances.
The historical circumstances are as Nadia H has stated. There was a war, and this left many widows in the community who HAD NO WAY OF SUPPORTING THEMSELVES. One option for these women was remarriage. A widow can remarrry a man who has no wives as easily as she can marry a man with wives. So if the present wives of a man are against their husband taking on another wife, why should the widow create more havoc in a household by marrying a man who's first wife doesn't want her there? Isn't that a bit Unislamic too?
Granted if there are no unmarried men the widow can depend on, today there are many avenues which a woman can take (even living in Pakistan) that can support herself and her children. Plus with the property rights given to a wife and the thoughtfullness of her deceased husband in making sure she and her children would be well provided for after his death all factor in. If she's got land in her hands that she can work with and a degree or education of some sort that can help her get a job or a job already that can support her and her children well, then there's really no need for marrying a married man, is there? But you see this clearly happeneing in countries like Pakistan at any rate.
Plus, in a country like Pakistan, if your husband is wounded in a war, chances are you'll be living a financially sound life even after his death due to all the military benefits that families get and the amount of wealth these military guys amass. Same goes for most other countries. Troop families are taken care of by the state. No need to remarry for financial reasons for most widows.
For death due to reasons besides war, yes, many widows do fall into financial difficulty. But isn't it better, as the Holy Quran and various hadith say, to make it out on your own rather than depend upon others? This surely must apply to women as well since there is no rule that says women can't work and have careers if they wish to.
If you look at the average muslim man who, TODAY, takes on more than one wife, I can assure you his second wives probably are not widows.
thus, with all the avenues a widow can take to assure her own financial security and be able to provide for her children, a second marriage to a married man isn't necessary today and isn't the main reason why men today decide to take on a second wife.
Lust is wrong and you can't accept it on the moral grounds that a second shaadi in the presence of an existing wife is permitted in the Quran. And you can't discuss the polygamy rule without taking into account the various hadith written on the matter, the historical circumstance for its revelation and other avenues that exist when making a decision to engage in polygamy.
The thread: ISLAM OPPRESSES WOMEN
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The muslim women living in the west do not represent Islam. Go live under the draconian sharia of Saudia & taleban before you sing praise of "how blessed the women in Islam are"!
Consider yourselves lucky that the secular laws of the west protect & nurtures you; you wouldn't even be able to show your painted fingers in the sharia-based country before some schmuck mullah belonging to the Virtue squad crushes them with a stick!
And, to state: Islam is radical is an oxymoron!
I mean there is nothing that is not radical in the teachings of Fundamentalist Islam; radical & dangerous right down to its bloody literal core!
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** Is this in North America?
If so then he is also claiming them as girlfriends and not wives because polygamy is illegal and the man can go to jail!
Are there cases like this taking place in North America or the West where a muslim male has more than one wife but keeps it hidden as co-habitation with mistresses or girl-friends?**
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Yes, actually this is N america. But I find that in America, Muslims will not give all the details of their amrriage to the authorities. Example is in states where first cousin marriages are not accepted. This guy is married to these women in the eyes of the Mulsim community and God, so thats all that he needs. As far as the govt is concerned, they can think what they want.
Also, the type of people that live in this building are very stric Muslims and the whole community is completely unlike what you would expect from "westernized" Muslims.
But I dont think he need to hide it from the community, just from the govt authorities that only recognize one wife.
There was an interesting case of a family belonging Christian sect which allowed polygamy. The Husband had SEVEN wives and close to 20 kids between them . Not only this, but some of the wives were under age when they were married. The govt refused to recognize the marriage and actually decided press charges against the husband for having improper relations with minors. This despite the fact that the all the wives married willingly and strongly supported their husband and faith. Still the US govt is bent on putting this guy in prison, religious freedom or not.
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Originally posted by bcsm57:
**I can't imagine any woman putting up with that kind of garbage. Sounds like men that just want to have sex with a number of women.
As to windows. Most women work now, and hardly need to take some other women's scraps to live.
Maybe this is were the differences in religions come in. I have always been taught that it should be one man, with one woman. Yes, of course people cheat on each other, but it isn't condoned. I really don't see how anyone could have true, totally commited love for more than one person.
Personally I have problems sharing the bathroom with my kids, so I think I would really have a problem sharing a husband with other women.
Brenda
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"I really don't see how anyone could have true, totally commited love for more than one person."
Thats the catch... You really cant love four women.. The Koran says you have to treat them all in the same way, which is imposible.
But the reason some have given for Polygamy in Islam is due the the fact, that during the time of the Prophet, the constant fighting had produced a society where the ratio of men to women was about 1 to 4, since so many men had died. Also, the tribal society was one in which it was neccesary for a woman to be married. So they had to allow for the mutiple marriages.
Salman: Man, I gave you so many links, and you chose that part of an article which suited your progrom. Now if that isn’t bias then what is? As a Muslim I try to state facts as they are, I don’t twist them to suit my ideologies. After all a good Muslim is to speak the truth even if it brought him to ruin (Muhammad’s (pbuh) statement).
Ok so lets go over some parts of the articles which you conveniently overlooked:
*After her photograph, in full veil, appeared in the local newspaper on Sept. 30, Ms. Davis’s soon-to-be-ex- husband refused to return their children, 5 and 2, from a weekend visit. She has not seen them since.
“It’s a test that is given to me from Allah to see if my faith is strong enough,” said Ms. Davis, 27, who discovered Islam in an Internet chat room this spring and now teaches pre-kindergarten at the Al-Salam Day School in this St. Louis suburb. “I’m asked to give up my religion for my kids, but I won’t do it. On Judgment Day, as much as I love my kids, they won’t be there with me.”*
Salman: Apparently, this new convert woman is ready to even bear the loss of her children to hold fast to Islam. Now there goes your theory that all these women convert because of the demand from their Muslim husbands!
With some 6 million adherents in the United States, Islam is said to be the nation’s fastest-growing religion, fueled by immigration, high birth rates and widespread conversion. One expert estimates that 25,000 people a year become Muslims in this country; some clerics say they have seen conversion rates quadruple since Sept. 11.
Salman: That shows you that its not just the “breeding like rabbits” theory you refer to. No other cult or religion has such high conversion rates as Islam does.
*Many convert because they want to marry a Muslim who demands it, a common reason for conversions in any religion. *
Salman: Read the above bold-italic part, now howcome Islam still manages to outstrip other faiths in terms of gaining converts.
Others find Islam through friendships on college campuses, research papers on world religions or trolling the Internet.
Salman: That shows you that people are converting of their own free will and through proper research and gaining knowledge.
Ms. Stolach, who teaches middle- school literacy
Salman: See…a literate and educated person converting to Islam of her own free will. Blacks who convert to Islam in jails do so cuz it shows them a way to reform their character and become good persons. Everyone makes mistakes, but its those who learn from them that prosper. If I was a black and I wanted to get even with whites then I would be joining the Nation of Islam, I wouldn’t be accepting Islam which says that a person must be just and forgiving.
*At first she tried to resist. She did not want this to happen. She was not that sort of person. After all, there were no gaps in her life, no spiritual ache, she did not need support or direction. But she kept reading and it kept making sense.
‘I had absolutely no expectation or desire to end up where I am,’ she says. 'It was almost with trepidation that I kept turning the pages and the trepidation just increased. I kept thinking: “OK, where’s the flaw? Where’s the bit that doesn’t make sense?” But it never came. And then it was like: “Oh no, I can see where this is leading. This is disastrous. I don’t want to be a Muslim!”
Caroline Bate is 30 years old, blonde, blue-eyed and pretty, with a soft Home Counties accent. She has a degree from Cambridge (she studied Russian and German before switching to management studies) and works for an investment bank in the City. She is Middle England’s dream daughter or daughter-in-law. And though she has yet to make her formal declaration of faith in Allah and the prophet Mohammed - a two-line pledge called the Shahada - she considers herself Muslim. She ticked the box on a form recently. It felt good, she says.
Caroline is not alone. Though data is hard to come by, several London mosques have been reporting an increase in the number of converts to Islam, especially since 11 September. Like Caroline, many of these converts are from solid middle-class backgrounds, have successful careers, enjoy active social lives and are fundamentally happy with their lot.
This is not a new trend, however. Matthew Wilkinson, a former head boy of Eton, became Tariq, when he converted to Islam in 1993. Jonathan Birt, son of Lord Birt, late of the BBC and now the government’s transport guru, converted in 1997. The son and daughter of Lord Justice Scott also converted and Joe Ahmed Dobson, the 26-year-old son of the former Health Secretary Frank Dobson, has recently and, somewhat reluctantly, emerged as the voice of new Muslim converts in Britain. But it is a trend that has been pushed along by recent events. So far it has gone largely unnoticed, as the press concentrates on some of the more colourful characters that 11 September has thrown up.*
Salman: I don’t think I need to say anything more, these people are sane, educated individuals, just go to the site and look at that woman’s picture, does she look like a crazy/stupid person to you??
*Certainly, all the women I spoke to were quick to refute the idea that Islam imposes a women-know-thy-place ideology.
‘The perception of how women are treated is completely incorrect,’ insists Caroline. ‘Women have a fantastic position in Islamic society.’
Indeed, many women converts talk about the adoption of the Islamic dress code as a liberation. They see it not as a denial of sex and sexuality but rather as an acknowledgement that these are treasures to be shared with a loved one and them alone. They are not hidden but rather freed from objectification.*
Salman: So…you think Islam oppresses women whereas eduacted women themselves are refuting your claim. Judging all Muslims by some actions of Taliban is stereotyping, please give it up.
The fact that I was no longer with Imran Khan (they split up in 1995, the year he married Jemima Goldsmith) didn’t make me want to move away from my faith. Everyone goes through upheavals in life, but now I have a centre and somehow it softens the blows, puts things in perspective. I don’t regret any of it - we are no longer in contact, but I know he asks after me - because through him I discovered a whole new world. It was the greatest gift I ever received.
**Salman: Apparently, a woman from MTV has converted to Islam and considers it the greatest gift she ever received!! If she just converted to make Imran Khan happy then howcome she still treasures her faith. She made her choice after acquiring knowledge, not just to please someone.
So, I could go on and on about this but I don’t know if any of my arguments will have any effect in softening your approach. It would be better if you looked at the facts from a non-biased perspective. I will leave you with an article by Jemima Khan, Imran’s wife. Peace!**
'The media present me as a naive besotted 21-year old who has mad a hasty decision without really considering the consequences - thus effectively condemning herself to a life of interminable subservience, misery and isolation. Although I must confess I have rather enjoyed the various depictions of a veiled and miserable “Haiqa Khan” incarcerated in chains, the reality is somewhat different. Contrary to current opinion, my decision to convert to Islam was entirely my own choice and in no way hurried. Whilst the act of conversion itself is surprisingly quick - entailing the simple assertion that “there is only one God and Mohammed is His Prophet” - the preparation is not necessarily so speedy a process. In my case, this began last July, whilst the actual conversion took place in early February - three months before the Nikkah in Paris. During that time, I studied in depth both the Quran and the works of various Islamic scholars (Gai Eaton, the Bosnian president Alia Izetbegovic, Muhammad Asad), thus giving me ample time to reflect before making my decision. What began as intellectual curiosity slowly ripened into a dawning realization of the universal and eternal truth that is Islam. In the statement given out a week ago, I particularly stressed that I had converted to Islam entirely “through my own convictions”. The significance of this has been largely ignored by the press. The point is that my conversion was not, as so many have assumed, a pre-requisite to my marriage. It was entirely my own choice. Religiously speaking, there was absolutely no compulsion for me to convert prior to my marriage. As it explicitly states in the Quran, a Muslim is permitted to marry from “the People of the Book” - in other words, either a Christian or a Jew. Indeed, the Sunnah - which describes the life of the Prophet - shows that the messenger of Islam himself married both a Christian and a Jew during his lifetime. I believe that much of this hostility towards my marriage and conversion stems from widespread misconceptions about an alien culture and religion. Not only is there a huge gulf between the Western view of Islam and the reality, but there is in some cases also a significant distinction between Islam based directly on the Quran and the Sunnah and that practiced by some Islamic societies. During the last year I have had the opportunity to visit Pakistan on three separate occasions and have observed Islamic family life in practice. Thus, to some extent I now feel qualified to judge for myself the true role and position of women in the religion. At the risk of sounding defensive, I would like to point out that Islam is not a religion which subjugates women whilst elevating men to the status of mini-dictators in their own homes. I was able to see this first-hand when I met Imran’s sisters in Lahore: they are all highly educated professional women. His oldest sister, Robina, is an alumnus of the LSE and holds a senior position in the United Nations in New York. Another sister, Aleema, has a master’s degree in business administration and runs a successful business; Uzma is a highly qualified surgeon working in a Lahore hospital, whilst Rani is a university graduate who co-ordinates charity work. They can hardly be seen as “women in chains” dominated by tyrannical husbands. On the contrary, they are strong-minded independent women - yet at the same time they remain deeply committed both to their families and their religion. Thus, I was able to see - in theory and in practice - how Islam promotes the essential notion of the family unit without subjugating its female members."
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Why not post some authentic links? Adbulmalick,
According to “The Almanac Book of Facts”,the population of Islam has increased by “235%.” The 9 November 1993 edition of the London Times, in an article by Lucy Berrington titled Why British Women are turning to Islam, states that, “The surge in conversions to Islam has taken place despite the negative image of the faith in the Western press. It is even more ironic that most British converts should be women, given the widespread view in the west that Islam treats women poorly. In the United States, women converts outnumber men by four to one, and in Britain make up the bulk of the estimated 10,000 to 20,000 converts, forming part of a Muslim community of 1 to 1.5 million. Many of Britain’s “New Muslims” are from middle-class backgrounds. They include Matthew Wilkinson, a former head boy of Eton who went on to Cambridge, and a son and daughter of Lord Justice Scott, the judge heading the arms-to-Iraq inquiry.”
On 27 April 2002, the Nebraska News reported that, “Some officials at the Omaha mosque say the number of converts since the attacks is about 50 percent to 60 percent higher than the same period last year… Saidi Liwaru, vice president of the Islamic Center in Omaha, has noticed an increase in Muslims in Nebraska adopting habits prescribed by the Islamic faith, including more Muslim women covering their hair with scarves.” I guess these women must be adopting the scarf because they love to be oppressed?
A May 1995 article in the Sydney Morning Herald states that, “But for many Muslims, particularly women, the 1990’s appear to be prompting a return to their religious heritage. Community leaders estimate that more than half are now choosing to wear the hajib, the traditional head covering designed to protect a women’s modesty. Many women, including teenage students, told the Herald they were not being forced into wearing the hijab, as is sometimes believed by non-Muslims. Less than a decade ago, many women were too fearful to look so obviously Islamic. Times have changed. So, too, is the view of Islam among some Christians. Feeling that Christianity has somehow lost its way, a small, but growing number of men and women are converting to Islam. While it is impossible to estimate numbers, Islamic people put the figure at about 200 a year. Not a flood, but one that, like the return of women to the hijab, is a signpost of Sydney’s Islamic renewal.”
According to a study undertaken by the UK’s Channel 4, “Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, and women are thought to be the largest group among its converts… All the women in the film deny that converting to Islam infringes on their rights as women. They claim it gives them new rights and improves their social status… Ameena declares: ‘There’s such a taboo about Muslim women - that we’re poor downtrodden victims who have to walk ten paces behind our husbands. I walk in front of mine.’”
With all due respect, don’t tell me that I should be living in a country where Sharia is implemented in order to be able to speak on this issue. I am a Muslim female, I have as much right as anyone to speak on this issue. Going by your argument, YOU should be a Muslim woman who has suffered abuse and oppressiveness - by your argument, as a male, you have no “right” to speak on this issue. Take it from Muslim female Guppies who have screamed themselves hoarse in telling the plain truth: Islam does not oppress anyone. Only ignorance does.
I believe a man can manage it i know some of our family friend swho are financially sound. And one of my brother's friend he is not that rich but a midaker but still living in one house both wives are fine or atleast pretend that they are like friends and sisters and there is no problem. Wallah Alam dilon ke bhaid wo hee jaanta hai. I won't prefer to marry a guy who already has a wife ofcourse it is big BIG decision to take and I am not that courageous since we are under the cultural boundries of India Pakistan where second wife is always consider as wemp through films ,dramas, and literature. I guess time will bring the change and Girls from India Pakistan will start accepting it. "if second marriage is necessary for their husbands"
Plus brenda,
I am sorry and i am surprised that in west women can see 50 girlfriends of a man but cant see one wife of him???? i didn't get you.
FYI Women in Islam are not oppressed. All these laws that have demeaned women are made by man (you know, humans with a physiology like yourself who somehow have the impression that male genitilia are associated with higher intelligence). The oppression you talk of exists. I dont deny it. But its an effect of mullahism. Yes, and I shall keep using that word until the day I day, becuz I too am a muslim and facts are facts. We really need to be looking at ourselves first. Comparing muslim women’s rights and non-muslim women’s rights is just an excuse to let the current oppression continue.
If men treated women they way they are instructed to by Islam, then no one would be complaining of “oppression”.
Actually while i was reading Quran …i came accross a sentence that told that Allah knew that it is not possible for men to treat their wives equally. (can’t quote the verse…bcuz can’t find it rite now
Many give the example of Prophet Muhamad (p.b.u.h) well he had a single wife till Hazrat Khadija died and after that he only married those women who were in need of shelter.
Now Islam clearly states that no marriage is acceptabele, i.e. second marriage without the consent of the first wife!!! so where are the rights of women in jeopardy??
And second, third or fourth marriages just for the sake of lust are NOT ALLOWED!!!, these marriages are allowed only under special sircumstances and well that is a very long topic.
I did not pick the link that suited my ‘so-called’ agenda; I picked the first one that you had posted with its equally catchy title. I did post excerpts from the article in my previous post:
Is Islam practised in the west the same as Islam practised in the Islamic states based on sharia?
Do muslim women living in the west truly represent the women living under the sharia regimes?
The answer to both questions is - No! it is not! And, to go as far as to claim that muslim women live ‘blessed lives’ is true of, maybe, those living in the west and not under the Islamic regimes based on sharia.
There has to be something seriously wrong to make statements like the ones Nadia_H, hina, sadiaa, are putting out. Jemima Khan must be under the same delusion as you all are which is - the West is defaming Islam by telling lies about it and that - Extremist Islam has to be defended at any cost!
**The majority Islam is represented not by people like the sadiaa, hina, sullu & nadia_H;
It is represented by the teachings of its FOUR fiqhs and by its Islamic states of Saudia, ex-taleban afghanistan, for example. According to the sharia of these FOUR fiqhs - most muslims should not even be domilciled in the kafir west, let alone giving allegiance to the kafir flag & laws!**
When any christian evengelist condemns Islam as a barbaric cult; their mullahs & CAIR(wahabi funded) come out praising - how peaceful the teachings of majority Islam is and the equal status that the ahle kitabis have been bestowed in the quran. This is Both a Lie; The ahle kitabis are as equal as the muslim women are equal.
Go check out how both fare under sharia of Saudia, for example!
The days of pretense & make believe are over!
If you wish to preach Islam then - preach the truth and not some lies that muslim women are the ‘blessed’ and to label Islam -Radical is an ‘oxymoron’. There are many muslims like myself who will, frankly, not put up with it!
abdulmalick…what does ur name means…Isn’t it servant of malick (malick being Allah)…anyways if u don’t want to remain his servant why don’t u change ur name and quit islam as this person did.
excellent article malick…but i thought he would have given better arguments for leaving Islam then just the killing of those who convert to other religion…i wouldn’t say i am a scholar but i have read alot…be it islam…christianity…hinduism…and alot about the smaller cults. But nowhere have i found such minuteness about everyday matters to law, as found in Islam.
but i’ll say again why don’t u leave Islam…it is too good a religion for u
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"I really don't see how anyone could have true, totally commited love for more than one person."
Thats the catch... You really cant love four women.. The Koran says you have to treat them all in the same way, which is imposible.
But the reason some have given for Polygamy in Islam is due the the fact, that during the time of the Prophet, the constant fighting had produced a society where the ratio of men to women was about 1 to 4, since so many men had died. Also, the tribal society was one in which it was neccesary for a woman to be married. So they had to allow for the mutiple marriages.
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In a society such as the one you describe it would make sense, but in our modern world, I really don't think it has a place. I am assuming that most Muslim men have just one wife. Is this ture or false?