How many desis...

MulTany-MalaNg · January 19, 2003, 10:46pm

How many desis secretly have abortions even though its against our religion???

Being married my wife was expecting, not quite ready for a child we decided for an abortion. However after thought we felt it wrong so we decided not to have the abortion, we lost the child anyhow.

How many of you guys have been in the same situation also were you married at that time.

What do you guys think about this stuff anyways???

mAd_ScIeNtIsT · January 19, 2003, 10:57pm

The view that I follow is as follows…

(copied and pasted from http://www.ourdialogue.com/a6.htm#1)

In 1983, a conference was held in Kuwait in which specialized doctors of medicine and Islamic scholars took part. One of the most important subject discussed was abortion. There was a great deal of discussion on the various aspects of abortion and when it can be considered appropriate.

From the findings of that conference it can be concluded that abortion is permissible if the continuation of pregnancy poses a real threat to the life of the mother. In this case, abortion can be performed at any stage during the pregnancy, and as soon as it is clear that termination of pregnancy is the only way to save the life of the mother.

As for other medical conditions, scholars differed a great deal on this issue. It is however, remarkable that the proceedings show that gynecologists and obstetricians who also have sound Islamic knowledge took a stronger attitude opposing abortion at any stage of the pregnancy. Scholars of Fiqh could find room for a more understandable attitude.

They gave different verdicts for different stages of the pregnancy. Most of them say that abortion is forbidden after 120 days of conception. Others say that this prohibition begins after 45 days. Both groups define the limit which they favor on the basis of a certain Hadith. The one which speaks of 120 days may be given in translation as follows:

"Indeed, the creation of each one of you is brought together in the mother’s belly for 40 days in the form of a drop of sperm, then he is a germ-cell for a like period, then an embryonic lump for a like period, then there is sent to him the angel who blows the breath of life into him and who is commanded about four matters: to write down his means of livelihood, his life span, his actions and whether happy or unhappy.

By Allah, other than whom there is no God, one of you may behave like the people of paradise until there is but an arm’s length between him and it, and that which has been written overtakes him and so he behaves like the people of hell fire and thus he enters it; and one of you behaves like the people of hell fire until there is but an arm’s length between him and it, and that which has been written overtakes him and so he behaves like the people of paradise and thus he enters it." (Related by Al Bukhari & Muslim.)

We note that the Prophet speaks of three stages of forty days each before spirit is blown into the embryo. It is on this basis that some scholars consider that abortion on medical grounds is permissible at this stage.

moona · January 20, 2003, 2:21am

I'm a single gal and haven't dealt with any abortion-related issues personally. However, I do know of a few Pakistani girls in our community who have had abortions secretly while in college. So sad, isn't it?

:(

Munni · January 20, 2003, 3:23am

My view is similar to that in the article posted by mad scientist

suroor_ca02 · January 20, 2003, 5:22am

like the article sayz... if it is necessary then i dont see any harm in it.

suroor_ca02 · January 20, 2003, 6:15am

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we lost the child anyhow
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sorry to hear that :(

Mal1k · January 20, 2003, 7:34am

Killing any innocent life is prohibited....No1 will enter paradise if they've comitted da following 3 big "gunaahs"

"Shirk" - Associating ALLAH with anything
Having sex with ur neigbors wife
Taking away da life of an innocent....I would define innocent as some1 who has not done any harm....a child which has been born outside marriage & then murdered be4 delivery - a sin bigger than imagination....I would suggest all u guppies raise ur children 2 be good citizens & give them a good education of Islam....! Rest assured we wont loose track & walk 2wards our destruction

seeker · January 20, 2003, 1:03pm

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*Originally posted by moona: *
However, I do know of a few Pakistani girls in our community who have had abortions secretly while in college. So sad, isn't it?
:(
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isi liye kehte hain kay rubber use karna chahyee...

MulTany-MalaNg · January 20, 2003, 1:30pm

We all know about the religious point of view, and if it necessay - i.e. health risk to mother or baby. But what are your personal views and occurances. how many of you had abortion for the sake of personal convenience?

system · January 20, 2003, 7:52pm

we're talking about possibly ramming a hot iron rod into a precious lil' human life. There better be concrete proof of whether its 45, 120 or whatever days before it should be considered 'legal'. Even then, only if the reason is a life-threatening situation to the mother.

indeed, Allah (swt) knows best.

Dilsay · January 21, 2003, 1:06pm

Sorry to hear

nykhansahib · January 26, 2003, 3:19pm

i mean u should suffer the consequences of ur doings? if u had sex and now ur partner is pregnant... there is noo need to kill an innocent life!!!..