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Originally posted by mdnaseer007:
**Originally posted by mdnaseer007:
**as just one muslim king came to indian sub continent and his army enterd and as they see the low caste women and they rapped as pakistani army did in bangladesh and muslims came into indian sub conitnent
means all muslims in subcontinent are bas tards
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MDNASEER, are you counting yourself in the list?
Answer: You are wrong again. I have lived in Saudi Arabia and there is no such thing described above. Saudi has only one law and it applies on every one, doesn’t matter who you are and where you from. No one is harassed as it is quiet well known that if only Muslim countries get to gather then US and all the other non-Muslim countries can be in a deep trouble for their wrong doing.
Saudi Arabia doesn't allows Sikhs to enter their country..because Sikhs used to worship Guru Granth Sahib in their homes, which Saudis couldn't digest and they banned all Sikhs from entering Arabia. I hope this gives you an idea of respect for minorities and other religions that exists in muslim countries.
There was an article posted on this forum regarding harassasment of Hindus and Christians in Pakistan..most of them have to adopt muslim names to escape constant discrimination.
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Bro Mbmagsi, mdnaseer is another hindu Indian claiming to be a Muslim from karachi (a sheep in lion's skin). It just makes me think that these days hindu indians are feeling more insecure than ever before, therefore their number on this forum is increasing trying to prove themselves as 'harmless veggitarians'. or it is also possible that one of the existing hindu indian in this forum is making more IDs, talking nicely using one ID and talking as he/she is using other ID.
We oughta be Changez like, don't we?
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Originally posted by Rani:
***Answer: You are wrong again. I have lived in Saudi Arabia and there is no such thing described above. Saudi has only one law and it applies on every one, doesn’t matter who you are and where you from. No one is harassed as it is quiet well known that if only Muslim countries get to gather then US and all the other non-Muslim countries can be in a deep trouble for their wrong doing.*
Saudi Arabia doesn't allows Sikhs to enter their country..because Sikhs used to worship Guru Granth Sahib in their homes, which Saudis couldn't digest and they banned all Sikhs from entering Arabia. I hope this gives you an idea of respect for minorities and other religions that exists in muslim countries.
There was an article posted on this forum regarding harassasment of Hindus and Christians in Pakistan..most of them have to adopt muslim names to escape constant discrimination.
[This message has been edited by Rani (edited August 13, 2001).]**
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No no no there is no harasment of minorities in India its the land of milk and honey and no no no UAE, Kuwait, Malysia etc...are not muslim countries but hindu countries and muslim go there to work.
No no no there is no harasment of minorities in India its the land of milk and honey and no no no UAE, Kuwait, Malysia etc...are not muslim countries but hindu countries and muslim go there to work.
Oh no we don't let muslims worship in Jama Masjid in Delhi..we expell if they do that muslims can never visit Varanasi, Hardawar Hindu holy places or visit Amritsar. We search people's suitcase in case they bring Koran in the country..we harassas them they have to take Hindu names...right..? Some poeple will justify every thing in their own countries and scream and holler and abuse west.. if they percieve any injustice, so much for morality.
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Originally posted by Rani:
***No no no there is no harasment of minorities in India its the land of milk and honey and no no no UAE, Kuwait, Malysia etc...are not muslim countries but hindu countries and muslim go there to work.*
Oh no we don't let muslims worship in Jama Masjid in Delhi..we expell if they do that muslims can never visit Varanasi, Hardawar Hindu holy places or visit Amritsar. We search people's suitcase in case they bring Koran in the country..we harassas them they have to take Hindu names...right..? Some poeple will justify every thing in their own countries and scream and holler and abuse west.. if they percieve any injustice, so much for morality.
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Oh no no no there are no mandirs in UAE, Kuwait, Malysia or any muslim country... As a mater of fact these are all hindu countries and they only allow mosques to be build.
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Originally posted by Abdali:
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Oh no no no there are no mandirs in UAE, Kuwait, Malysia or any muslim country... As a mater of fact these are all hindu countries and they only allow mosques to be build.**
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exactly, and there are no Hindus in Pakistan, no mandirs in Pakistan... probably they are all fake Hindus, must be all ISI agents pretending to be Hindus to show world that hindus exists in Pakistan.
We oughta be Changez like, don't we?
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Originally posted by Rani:
***No no no there is no harasment of minorities in India its the land of milk and honey and no no no UAE, Kuwait, Malysia etc...are not muslim countries but hindu countries and muslim go there to work.*
Oh no we don't let muslims worship in Jama Masjid in Delhi..we expell if they do that muslims can never visit Varanasi, Hardawar Hindu holy places or visit Amritsar. We search people's suitcase in case they bring Koran in the country..we harassas them they have to take Hindu names...right..? Some poeple will justify every thing in their own countries and scream and holler and abuse west.. if they percieve any injustice, so much for morality.
[This message has been edited by Rani (edited August 13, 2001)
Oh no no no there are no mandirs in UAE, Kuwait, Malysia or any muslim country... As a mater of fact these are all hindu countries and they only allow mosques to be build..]**
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Yup u are right, how many Mandirs have been build in Pakistan after 1947, how many Mandirs are in Kuwait, probably none..(Malaysia discriminates against all foreigners,) most Indians have left Malaysia for Australia. can i build a mundir in Iran, and Arabia or take my religious books past customs to read at home. Non muslims cannot even visit Mecca or Medina and muslims talk about discrimination..what a Joke.
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Originally posted by Rani:
** Yup u are right, how many Mandirs have been build in Pakistan after 1947, how many Mandirs are in Kuwait, probably none..(Malaysia discriminates against all foreigners,) most Indians have left Malaysia for Australia. can i build a mundir in Iran, and Arabia or take my religious books past customs to read at home. Non muslims cannot even visit Mecca or Medina and muslims talk about discrimination..what a Joke. **
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Now is this from hindu text book also.
FYI The PM of Indonesia the biggest muslim country is a Hindu.
Let me also tell you we don't burn Christian missionaries and their babaies alive.
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Originally posted by Rani:
** Yup u are right, how many Mandirs have been build in Pakistan after 1947, how many Mandirs are in Kuwait, probably none..(Malaysia discriminates against all foreigners,) most Indians have left Malaysia for Australia. can i build a mundir in Iran, and Arabia or take my religious books past customs to read at home. Non muslims cannot even visit Mecca or Medina and muslims talk about discrimination..what a Joke. **
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non-muslims are barred from entry to Mecca and Medina, because these sites are not "sight-seeing" places or "historical monuments" or some sort of "museum", these are sacred places to Muslims so they want to keep them safe / clean from any intrusion.... why are you so interested in going there anyway?
We oughta be Changez like, don't we?
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Originally posted by Abdali:
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Now is this from hindu text book also.
FYI The PM of Indonesia the biggest muslim country is a Hindu.
Let me also tell you we don't burn Christian missionaries and their babaies alive.**
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Really..there is turmoil in Indonesia because of muslims. Missionaries are not allowed to enter in your pureland they will be killed if they open bible to preach..who are u kidding.
Can non-muslim rule or even live as an equal with equal rights in Pakistan, Afganistan, Iran, Iraq, Arabia, Egypt, etc..of course not but u that is nothing to worry about as long as u get your right in secular countries. So long...i am out of here..
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How very convienet to completely by pass the issue. Can a none hindu become a PM of India.
There are several churches in Pak and some of the top ranking military officers in Pak are Christians. Go to www.defencejournal.com and check it out. One of the superme court judge in Pak is a hindu. Keep your facts withing Indian borders thats where they fly.
. Keep your facts withing Indian borders thats where they fly.
I think u should read Chanmahi's post, a while back posted in Culture and lifestyle section outlining names of Hindu and Sikhs who had stayed behind in Pakistan in 1947 they all are now muslims..do u think they all suddenly saw beauty of Islam after 1947.
In this day and age of media scrutiny everything comes out no matter how much you try to hide..
P.S. Read Pakistan's constituion somebody posted it and it clearly treats minorities as second class citizens.
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Originally posted by Rani:
***. Keep your facts withing Indian borders thats where they fly.*
I think u should read Chanmahi's post, a while back posted in Culture and lifestyle section outlining names of Hindu and Sikhs who had stayed behind in Pakistan in 1947 they all are now muslims..do u think they all suddenly saw beauty of Islam after 1947.
In this day and age of media scrutiny everything comes out no matter how much you try to hide..
P.S. Read Pakistan's constituion somebody posted it and it clearly treats minorities as second class citizens.
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SO they converted but did not cross the border. hmmmmmmm you are realy amazing ppl.
very very amazing... India sure is the land of milk and honey.
Go read the constitution of Pak it says all are equal.
And thanks to the media we know exactly what is India. You want me to provide you books on Indian democracy... You name it there are volumes on the land of milk and honey and the woundrous treatment of minorities.
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Originally posted by Rani:
***. Keep your facts withing Indian borders thats where they fly.*
I think u should read Chanmahi's post, a while back posted in Culture and lifestyle section outlining names of Hindu and Sikhs who had stayed behind in Pakistan in 1947 they all are now muslims..do u think they all suddenly saw beauty of Islam after 1947.
In this day and age of media scrutiny everything comes out no matter how much you try to hide..
P.S. Read Pakistan's constituion somebody posted it and it clearly treats minorities as second class citizens.
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so is that a competition?? should we list names of our relatives who faced harassment, who got killed even after 1947?
so you are saying the Hindus in Karachi, Pakistan are fake? or they get kicked around in everyday life? did you find it out? I think constitution only prohibits a non-Muslim from being President or Prime Minister... but they can get other positions...
what else do you want? you want us to go and find out a hindu (whatever his knowledge status/skillset) and seat him on President's seat?
We oughta be Changez like, don't we?
Rani,
Why this interest to visit Mecca?
Saudi Arabia as a country has the right to reject anyone from entering, just as USA can refuse visa to any Pakistani/Indian/Iraqi/Chinese National.
Why should Saudi Arabia grant you visa? They already have far too many visitors (much more than they can handle) all year round.
Rani
Please don't embarrass yourself more than you have already done so.
The fact remains that each country is allowed to govern in it's best interest.
The reason why non muslims are not allowed into Mecca is because Allah has ordered us not to allow the Kafirs into the scared city:
009.018 The mosques of Allah shall be visited and maintained by such as believe in Allah and the Last Day, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charity, and fear none (at all) except Allah. It is they who are expected to be on true guidance.
009.028 O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
Furthermore, if India was such a great Haven, then why are so many Indians fleeing the country and putting their lives at risk in doing so, in order to reach the West.
It has nothing to do with religion. It is Poverty. When poverty hits you it does not look at what religion you are following!!
Unfortunately in Democracy, the minority DO NOT rule, only the majority does!
On one hand you are claiming India is a great Democracy and on the other hand you want to establish the rule of Communism.
Please make up your mind.
Abdali
there was a muslim president in india ,no where in the world a minority person get a high rank,and you might have known about the Hero of Indian s nuclear tests he is a muslim,and in criket no one has been a long time captain for indian team as azhar
and there are many muslims who r in high ranks in india,
Best regards
Naseer