Arent these terms relative? What may be a sin to you is a mistake for someone else?
Maybe our moral religious and social compasses drive these judgements?
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Arent these terms relative? What may be a sin to you is a mistake for someone else?
Maybe our moral religious and social compasses drive these judgements?
Vague topic? who cares! ![]()
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
sin has religious connotations.
mistake does not.
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
Qur'aan aur sunnat kii roo se jo laGhzish ho use gunaah kahte haiN aur jo is zumur meN na aaye vo jurm yaa Ghalatii kahlaayegii.
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
sin has religious connotations.
mistake does not.
dr phil, some people do make mistakes that are social mistakes and has religious consequences too? Is that a sin too?
An analagy would be that lets suppose you lied to avoid hurting a relative. But you lied and lying can be taken as a sin too?
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
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Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
^not you.
sabs-if you lie to save a relative...then it is not a mistake, the lie might be considered a sin because lying is considered a sin according to certain religions.
but if someone cheats on a spouse and labels it a mistake, then he can repent and ask forgiveness for that sin?
you can also mistakenly put extra salt in your dinner...thats not a sin:D
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
70 major sins
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
^uhhhhhh...
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
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What is the source of these 70 sins? I suppose they are not in the order of magnitude.
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
X2: I just add the reference line, you can read whold pdf.
Each sin is also explained in the light of Quran and Hadith.
MAJOR SINS is written by Imam Shamsu ed-Deen Dhahabi.
IMHO, it is one of the best book and must have in reading list of all muslims.
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
What is the source of these 70 sins? I suppose they are not in the order of magnitude.
No, they are not in order of magnitude.
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
Something may be sin for you but it could just be a habit for some one else (wont mention any examples as these are very common to think about). Same defination applies to mistake.
In my personal opinion, both are same.
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
A mistake is a mistake even if it be a sin. But if a sin was intentional, its def more grave.
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
dr phil, some people do make mistakes that are social mistakes and has religious consequences too? Is that a sin too?
An analagy would be that lets suppose you lied to avoid hurting a relative. But you lied and lying can be taken as a sin too?
Its all about the intentions. if you lied with good intentions, it wud nulify the negativity for which u cud have been penalised. Same like if you spoke the truth but with bad intentions, it would not mean you wont get penalised cuz u spoke the truth.
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
Sin is gunah....mistake is ghalti :D
Urdu tou aati hogi aapko :@:
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
In addition to what ZareenKhan has stated above ... yes every act has with it two things the physical effect of the act and the intent it was undertaken with.
Also sin is viewed from the perspective of Allah (SWT) whereas mistakes are viewed from a humanistic perspective. It is quite possible for example:
A man bets on a horse knowing it was a sin but wins and gets his returns ... in this scenario there is no mistake - he successfully bets and gets return, but the sin is that he purposely disobeyed God. This is not called a mistake at all. A mistake is not an intentional act, there are two types of mistakes,
A lapse of full control over ones consciousness and powers of reasoning
faulty reasoning
A mistake is really only seen after the effects of what was done are observed to be different from the intent of the act. A sin is when as soon as the intended act is done, without looking to its affects. A sin also has two types:
Rebellious intentions
Ignorance
Rebellious intentions are sinning whilst knowing about the sin yet doing them any way ... and in turn ignorance has two types, which are:
Conscious ignorance - kufr
Unconscious ignorance - ignorant about a certain thing with pure or naive intention
kufr is to cover - it is to behave in a way where guidance is rejected for lies which are more comfortable to live with.
Only unconscious ignorant forms of sinning can be mistakes, but not the rebellious sorts or conscious ignorance sorts.
sin is evaluated against good and bad - but mistakes are evaluated by comparing the conditions before the event to those after it, without bearing to the universal good or bad of it.
Modern languages have confused the two terms to mean the same thing they are lexically substitutable in regular speech, but are in fact dissimilar things.
Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?
a mistake is not done on purpose, even if it is a sin. You can't do something wrong knowingly and call it a mistake, that's a sin.
our intentions, our heart & mind, our desires - Allah knows best