How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

Arent these terms relative? What may be a sin to you is a mistake for someone else?

Maybe our moral religious and social compasses drive these judgements?

Vague topic? who cares! :snooty:

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

sin has religious connotations.

mistake does not.

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

Qur'aan aur sunnat kii roo se jo laGhzish ho use gunaah kahte haiN aur jo is zumur meN na aaye vo jurm yaa Ghalatii kahlaayegii.

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

dr phil, some people do make mistakes that are social mistakes and has religious consequences too? Is that a sin too?

An analagy would be that lets suppose you lied to avoid hurting a relative. But you lied and lying can be taken as a sin too?

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

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Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

^not you.

sabs-if you lie to save a relative...then it is not a mistake, the lie might be considered a sin because lying is considered a sin according to certain religions.

but if someone cheats on a spouse and labels it a mistake, then he can repent and ask forgiveness for that sin?

you can also mistakenly put extra salt in your dinner...thats not a sin:D

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

70 major sins

  1. Ascribing Associates To Allah, The Most High (Shirk)
  2. Killing A Human Being
  3. Sorcery
  4. Not Performing the Prayer
  5. Not Paying Zakat
  6. Breaking One’s Fast During Ramadan Without an Excuse
  7. Not Performing the Hajj When Able to
  8. Showing Disrespect to One’s Parents
  9. Severing the Ties of One’s Relatives
  10. Adultery
  11. Sodomy
  12. Accepting Usurious Gain
  13. Wrong Consuming an Orphan’s Property
  14. Lying About the Prophet
  15. Fleeing From the Battlefield
  16. The Leader Who Misleads His Followers, the Tyrant and the Oppressor
  17. Arrogance, Pride, Conceit, Vanity and Haughtiness
  18. Bearing False Witness
  19. Drinking Alcohol
  20. Gambling (Qimar)
  21. Accusing a Woman of Adultery
  22. Misappropriating Spoils of War, Muslim Funds or Zakat
  23. Theft
  24. Highwaymen Who Menace the Road
  25. The Engulfing Oath
  26. Taking People’s Property Through Falsehood
  27. Collecting Taxes
  28. The Consumption of Haram
  29. Suicide
  30. Telling Lies
  31. The Dishonest Judge
  32. Bribery
  33. Women Imitating Men and Vice Versa
  34. The Pimp and the One Who Permits His Wife To Fornicate
  35. Marrying Solely to Return to the Previous Husband
  36. Not Freeing Oneself of All Traces of Urine
  37. Showing off in Good Work
  38. Learning Sacred Knowledge for the Sake of this World or Concealing It
  39. Breach of Faith
  40. Reminding Recipients of One’s Charity to Them
  41. Disbelieving in Destiny
  42. Listening to the People’s Private Conversations
  43. The Talebearer Who Stirs Up Enmity Between People
  44. Cursing Others
  45. Breaking One’s Promise or Pledge
  46. Believing Fortunetellers and Astrologers
  47. A Wife’s Rebellion Against Her Husband
  48. Picture-making
  49. Loudly Lamenting For the Dead or When Afflicted With an Adversity
  50. Excess Against Others
  51. Overburdening and Arrogance Against Others
  52. Hurting One’s Neighbor
  53. Hurting or Reviling Muslims
  54. Harming the Servants of Allah
  55. Dragging the Hem of One’s Garment Out of Conceit
  56. Men Wearing Silk or Gold
  57. Fleeing of the Slave
  58. Slaughtering in Other Than Allah’s Name
  59. Falsely Claiming Someone is One’s Father
  60. Arguing, Picking Apart Another’s Words, and Quarreling
  61. Withholding Excess Water From Others
  62. Stinting When Weighing or Measuring Out Goods and Similar Merchandise
  63. Feeling Secure From Allah’s Devising
  64. Despairing of the Mercy of Allah and Losing of Hope
  65. Forgoing the Congregational Prayer to Pray Alone Without A Legal Excuse
  66. Constantly Missing the Friday and Congregational Prayer Without A Valid Excuse
  67. Bringing Loss to the Bequest
  68. Deception and Evil Schemes
  69. Spying on the Muslims and Revealing Their Weaknesses
  70. Disparaging the Companions of the Prophet

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

^uhhhhhh...

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

:konfused:

What is the source of these 70 sins? I suppose they are not in the order of magnitude.

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

X2: I just add the reference line, you can read whold pdf.
Each sin is also explained in the light of Quran and Hadith.

MAJOR SINS is written by Imam Shamsu ed-Deen Dhahabi.

IMHO, it is one of the best book and must have in reading list of all muslims.

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

No, they are not in order of magnitude.

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

Something may be sin for you but it could just be a habit for some one else (wont mention any examples as these are very common to think about). Same defination applies to mistake.

In my personal opinion, both are same.

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

A mistake is a mistake even if it be a sin. But if a sin was intentional, its def more grave.

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

Its all about the intentions. if you lied with good intentions, it wud nulify the negativity for which u cud have been penalised. Same like if you spoke the truth but with bad intentions, it would not mean you wont get penalised cuz u spoke the truth.

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

Sin is gunah....mistake is ghalti :D
Urdu tou aati hogi aapko :@:

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

In addition to what ZareenKhan has stated above ... yes every act has with it two things the physical effect of the act and the intent it was undertaken with.

Also sin is viewed from the perspective of Allah (SWT) whereas mistakes are viewed from a humanistic perspective. It is quite possible for example:

A man bets on a horse knowing it was a sin but wins and gets his returns ... in this scenario there is no mistake - he successfully bets and gets return, but the sin is that he purposely disobeyed God. This is not called a mistake at all. A mistake is not an intentional act, there are two types of mistakes,

A lapse of full control over ones consciousness and powers of reasoning
faulty reasoning

A mistake is really only seen after the effects of what was done are observed to be different from the intent of the act. A sin is when as soon as the intended act is done, without looking to its affects. A sin also has two types:

Rebellious intentions
Ignorance

Rebellious intentions are sinning whilst knowing about the sin yet doing them any way ... and in turn ignorance has two types, which are:

Conscious ignorance - kufr
Unconscious ignorance - ignorant about a certain thing with pure or naive intention

kufr is to cover - it is to behave in a way where guidance is rejected for lies which are more comfortable to live with.

Only unconscious ignorant forms of sinning can be mistakes, but not the rebellious sorts or conscious ignorance sorts.

sin is evaluated against good and bad - but mistakes are evaluated by comparing the conditions before the event to those after it, without bearing to the universal good or bad of it.

Modern languages have confused the two terms to mean the same thing they are lexically substitutable in regular speech, but are in fact dissimilar things.

Re: How do you differentiate between a sin and a grave mistake?

a mistake is not done on purpose, even if it is a sin. You can't do something wrong knowingly and call it a mistake, that's a sin.

our intentions, our heart & mind, our desires - Allah knows best