how do we know theres God

ok..i am writing this paper for english..and i need some explainations of why i think that therez God…i dont want any refrences..i just wanna know..what u guys think..like..how do we(YOU) know tht there is Godso i can perhaps use tht in my paper..
and if this is not the right place to start this topic..then someone can move it
but i do need help ASAP..cuz i am stuck

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You should check this topic in religion section archives .....May be u'll be able to find more than what your are looking for.

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I am sure that any tafseer of Sura Rahman should help you to write your paper

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guysss..i dont have much time to look around

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lol Aaana, I’ve only seen you post when you have a paper due or need help in homework :hmmm:

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I was just pondering over this topic, but since you dont wont any reference let me just summarize it.

Now look at the creation outside the sun, moon, stars, oceans,etc.. did this creation
1) Come on its own.
2) Did they create themselves.
Logically we know both the options are untrue for a logical mind as
a) We did not come on our own
b) We did not create ourselves.
Considering this fact as an individual i ponder if 1 and 2 arent true then what is the truth obviously there is a creator a supreme creator called God.

Let me go further

Now the question of who created the creator and this is endless. Well stop for a moment. Let me quote an eg,

If i wanna build a house but i want one of my friends help, i would approach him but friends wants to help me on one condition i.e. if one of his friends join him then he is ready to help me, so i approach the 3rd friend and the list goes on until n no. of friends.
In the process whats happening is my house is incomplete.

Now try to get this analogy with respect to God, already the creation is present well i know there is a creator, rather i would be asking the question of who created the creator if there was no creation (but my chances are nullified since already the creation is present in its pristine form).

Let me provide you with an other eg if God exists. Imagine i had to tell you one day, i was standing in middle of a road waiting for a taxi, and a completely destroyed car gets resurrected on its own and without someone sitting in the drivers seat comes right next to me and stands.

I sit inside the car and the car stops at the signal, takes the direction to my office the right way, exactly avoids itself from banging into other car (remember this is without any driver inside).

If i narrate this story to my friends they would call me MAD.

Now imagine this complete universe is perfectly running dont you think so there is a creator and managing sun, moon, star,etc... perfectly.

Well i hope this would help.

Regards.

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One could succesfully argue that since God cannot be seen there is no God and hence Evolutionism wins. But the question remains, evolution started with the big bang, but where did the big bang come from? Who set off the trigger? Who provided the gunpowder? Who created the right conditions?

Also, what was there before the big bang? Was there anything? Was there nothing? A void? A vacuum? Who created that vacuum?

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chee bro, there are some unvalidated potential explanations on that front from scientists. on the flip side, if we were to assume it was God, all those questions still hold for God too, what was there before God? Was there anything? Was there nothing? A void? A vacuum? Who created that vacuum? A Super-God? and there are no answers.

the unknown has always been reason for worship. fire, water, earth, elements of nature, planets, stars, have all held the elevated role at one time or other while man slowly figured his environment out.

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Was "before" already there from the beginning or this "before" is none other than the very creation of The God?

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I have come across many potential explanation by scientists but all of them end up at the same brick wall. Its not even something that one could reverse extrapolate, kinda like on a graph. Theres the $40 billion particle accelerator that will be completed later this year thats expected to give lots of answers. It will create conditions similar to that of a billionth of a second after the big bang. Unfortunately thats a billionth of a second too late. It still cant tell what happened before the big bang. Yes scientists have potential stuff, but its not solid. And unless you have solid evidence you cannot hang the accused melord.

And you're right queer people will ask but who created God? Again these things can be argued back and forth endlessly. This is a question that has no valid answer, and hence it should be left upto the individual to believe what he/she wants. If you want to believe theres no God, good for you. If i want to believe God exists, good for me.

Interestingly, theres always the question of what came first chicken or the egg? Did evolution create reproductive eggs for millions of years until finally a chicken came out of one? Or did evolution create chickens that gave birth to other chickens like mammals until finally the mammals decided they'd rather be birds and the kids started popping out in shells instead?

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the chicken or egg isnt a paradox any longer. the egg came first.

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Kukri tey pehle di si, Anda oduN aaya aye jadoN kukkar aaya aye :-D

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Look how do we usually pray.....

God will help me.....a command to God.

God is everywhere......a duty given to God.

God is omnipotent...a bondage given to God.

All praises are for God.....we are obliging God.

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something beyond the comprehension of the human kind

I remember seeing a program on TV about the limitations of humans (or any other living thing). If you have just a 2 dimensional view (i.e. straight, left and right) then you will not be able to explain if something fell from above your head, i.e BEYOND the scope of your comprehension / vision…

.. something similar as trying to explain WHO IS GOD ? WHAT WAS BEFORE HIM ? etc etc. We have a myopic vision, and can’t see beyond a certain limit

Man has a limited perception of things, only that which Allah (swt) has bestowed upon him, so dont worry your little wittle brains trying to play peek a boo and finding how GOD was created…

Mujh say koi yeh sawal poochay tu main kahooN ga “Kyon kay mairay maula, sarwar e kainaat (saw) nay hamain bataya hay kay Allah (swt) aik hay aur USS nay yeh duniya aur sari kainaat takhleeq ki hay” Chapter closed, no need for any further discussions…

Ramzan aa raha hay - insaan kay bachhay banoo
roozay rakoo aur koi bhalai ka kaam karoo :smilestar:

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^

reminds me of a Hadith of Ahmad (S.A.W) when He said "people will not stop asking questions until they come to a question: If God created everything, who created God?"

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I once asked these questions from an atheist almost 2 years ago, and didn't recieve any answer. I hope it would insha'Allah help by the grace and blessings of Allah.

WHO is the one who feeds us when we are inside our mothers ??

WHO is the one who converts days into nights and nights into days ??

Look at the sky, why donot you find any mistake in it. WHO has made it to perfection ?? Try looking again, everytime your eyes would get tired but you would not find any mistake in it.

WHO is the one who gives different taste to fruits of different trees, although the same water is given to all trees ??

WHO is the one who is able to make infinitely different faces of infinitely many people although they all have the same 2 eyes, one nose,one mouth and two ears ??

WHO is the one who makes the finger prints and **retina of eye **of all the humans different from each other ???

WHO is the one who feeds the ants under the stones ???

Even a single stone cannot move from its place on its own, how is the whole universe controlled in such an organized manner on its own. WHO is behind it ???

Who is the one who converts us from child to a young and powerfull person and then to a weak old man victom of all kind of diseases ???

WHO is the one who helps a human being when he is helpless and dishearted and there is none to help him ???

WHO is the one who sent us to this world for a time which is negligible as compared to the time before and after us ( applicable to every human) ???

WHO is the master of earthquakes, winds, storms, floods, and others....

WHO is the one who helps a seed ( under the ground) to grow into a little plant and then grow into a tree.

WHO is the one who made each and every human being from a single drop.

WHO is the one who orders for rain when humans become totally hopeless and find no sign of rain ???

Just concentrate on your ownself, you would feel there definately is someone behind its creation.Who is that ??

Who is the one who created all these mountains, seas, rivers, oceans, trees ???

Who is the one who has made the ground uneven ???

Who is the one who helps the sheeps and cows make milk for you and orders them to allow you to take milk from them. Had the cow a bit of brain, it would have used its strength in resisting when a man comes near it for taking milk

Who is the one who created love for you in the hearts of your parents, that even a selfish person can't help it, but give preferrence to his child over himself

WHO is the one who traps your ships in strong oceans and then when you find noway out but death, he listens to your prayers and helps your ships reach the sea shore ???

Who is the one who feeds the largest and smallest fishes in the oceans ???

WHO is the one who bless you with happiness AFTER you go through the toughest time in your life ???

who is the one who gave a human the ability to think and understand better than other animals ???

WHO is the one who made this universe limited for you and left no way for you to leave it ???

Who is the one who makes the full moon on some nights and half on others ???

who is the one who orders the sun to rise from the east and set in the west ???

who is the one who gives the birds the ability to fly and doesnt give the same ability to other creatures ??

WHO is the one who is making billions of creatures and killing billions of creatures at the same time BUT doesnot make ANY single mistake
e.g. By mistake puting a dog's nose inplace of a man's nose. If you were born with a dog's nose, you would have got killed by the smell of the gutters around you. Who created this balance of tolerance ????

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okkk..thank u people..i have abt a page nowww

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agar pata hota to phadda kis baat ka hota bhai?

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The thing about "proving" God is dodgy at best...

Say if we find (somehow) That there's no God... Than all religion is invalidated

But if we (somehow) find that there is a God... Still all religion would be invalidated, because all religion ultimately comes down to faith... And if there's no need to have faith but to just have facts...

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I donot think if there is any logic in your questions.