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Originally posted by hmcq:
**ummmm ... You are not implying that Muzna is an ummm immature lady are you.... Dehaan see yaar... Muzna ke kahin jootian na par jayen!!!
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Muzna ka aim bhi buhat kharab hai..phenkay gi bhi toh 35% north angle par nikal jayen gi. ab agar muzna ninja hoti toh phir jution say darr hota..
waisay yara...you speaking from experience. :)
Ok the long post last !!!
What standards should a judge or a policeman live upto? and do they have the same responsibility as the regular person?
I would say they have a greater responsibility to the general public then the other way round. A judge is supposed to be impartial always, not because he has no feelings or desires, but because he is outlining the norms and rules of the society and hence if he is not impartial then he is basically been a hypocrite and saying the rules only apply to some people. If a regular person did that it would only affect a couple of people most likly but if a judge does it he is changing the basic rule and it affects not only him but also the whole society to a certain extent (its the lead by example thing). if the judge (who is supposedly living by the rules) disobeys rules then why shouldn't the regular people?
now turning to the specifics :
it was not neccessarily the anecdotal sayings that i disagreed with (though i did disagree with them cause you seemed to be saying that they were almost factual) but rather the tone of the whole post. Jawaan might have said a lot of stuff to you and I am not sure what has been said and what has not and perhaps you are right, i dont have the full story , but that not withstanding, because of whatever Jawaan has said, are you lowering your standards to match his? I mean do two wrongs make a right?
"You are pretty much right on the subject when you say that I normally do not exchange comments like "wrap that around your mind", but then again, most people do not speak to/about me in the manner that Jaawan does. "
if he starts a shouting match I would be horrified to see you match him up in that. Dont you think that would be unacceptable of an Admin member.
"Are you suggesting that if a member happens to volunteer as an Administrator and/or a Moderator they forfeit their right to defense from attack? Are they suddenly open to criticism, sarcasm and ridicule by general members? "
No you have every right to a defense. however if you think his conduct as a member is unbecoming of him, then your response should not be in a similar manner. The tone of the post as a whole in your response was rather unfortunate I think.
"Many people have been approached to become moderators and have declined the position because they feel that the public is unfair to them. This is a clear example of that injustice."
I am sorry that you feel I have done an injustice here. If I am wrong in raising the issue, then I wholeheartdly appologize, not only to you but to everyone else who has been forced to read thru all my posts. however i do feel strongly that the mods and admins are there to set the rules and make sure people do follow the rules, hence their behaviour should be a standard the rest of the membership can follow.
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Originally posted by Muzna:
**hmcq,
I should apologize for suggesting that you and Jaawan/Loveless are one and the same. I know better than to expect that kind of behaviour from you. So, right out of the starting gate, I'm sorry.
Next, I appreciate your efforts to point out what you feel is a discrepancy in my behaviour. Your comments can only serve to cause an improvement in how I carry myself here and in general and for that I should only be grateful to you.
The one thing that I do take exception to is your suggestion that members of the Admin/Mod team should not be allowed to post their opinions. I see that as completely unfair. To me the definition of a successful Moderator or Administrator is one who can leave their personal opinions behind while performing their duty. This does not however, suggest that they cannot have an opinion as a simple member. As long as they remember that posting rules and regulations apply to them as much as any non-authority figure.
Now let's be specific......
If you agree that the example I gave is anecdotal and therefore is not a reflection of the truth or facts, then why take offense?
"personally i could not have cared less what Jawaan or you said to each other, however the manner in which you said it i think was rather inappropriate. "
hmcq, this is precisely where the problem lies. You haven't bothered to look into the background. Or if you are aware of it, you are neglecting to recognize how it would impact communication between Jaawan and I.
You are pretty much right on the subject when you say that I normally do not exchange comments like "wrap that around your mind", but then again, most people do not speak to/about me in the manner that Jaawan does.
Are you suggesting that if a member happens to volunteer as an Administrator and/or a Moderator they forfeit their right to defense from attack? Are they suddenly open to criticism, sarcasm and ridicule by general members?
Many people have been approached to become moderators and have declined the position because they feel that the public is unfair to them. This is a clear example of that injustice.
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Originally posted by Azkar Choudhry:
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hmcq, meri jaan kay totay, kabi kabi tumahin thappar maar kay payar karnay ko dil karta hay ... **
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Bahi saab, ee tey minu indian movie tha dailog laghta peya hai.... :)
Nain oye! C++ Compiler de qasaam, khude banaya aye!
I think, you guys should put "sock-in-it" and move on with something better.
~~~mOrE LoVe iS NeVeR eNoUgH~~~
Jaan-e-mun Jaan-e-Tamanaa
Edharr aah teriyaaN LaatTaanN PunNaa-n
Wada Saen Saab..
Agar har koi thwadi ki 'jaan ka tota' ban gaya tu thwadi jaan da kya banega janab. sanu te thwadi jaan di fikar pey gai..thwada rab rakha.
hmcq,
I think I've said everything that I think is relevant on the subject. And if I'm bored of repeating it then you must be bored of reading it again and again, so I won't put you through it.
In all the examples that you have used to illustrate your point, you seem to have forgotten one thing: Admins, Mods, judges and policemen all take their uniforms off and have regular lives just like Joe Public. They enjoy the same activities, eat the same food, drink the same water and laugh at the same jokes.
Don't worry about shouting matches hmcq, I have neither the time nor the inclination. If I exchange banter with Jaawan at all it's simply to play. ;) Yeah, sometimes I make a concerted effort to help him as do others but mostly it's for fun. (Yes, fun when my uniform is off and I'm playing.)
All said and done I appreciate your comments hmcq. In fact, I'm flattered that you would have such high expectations of me. Thank you.
Fraudz,
khi,khi,khi kay chachay! Batteesi nikaal kay hanstay rehtay ho. Tehro zara! Baray a'ay!!! Mera aim kafi kuch improve ho chuka hai....maar kay dikha'oon? Rotay raho gay tum bhi.
NYAhmadi,
Beautiful analogy.
Muzna,thanks but no thanks. Play and muzaq usi ke sath kartey hain, jis ke sath koe muzaq ho, aur jo kuch samjhay app ko, i think of you as nothing. So stop playing with your self…you are under a big confusion.
How about helping your self first?
After all that “sucking-up” by some members, one thing have sat in the minds of some people that they are like “hoors”, what a confusion of errors and misunderstanding.
App ka buhat “achaa” dost Jaawan!
http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hehe.gif
~mOrE LoVe iS NeVeR eNoUgH~
Jaan-e-mun Jaan-e-Tamanaa
Edharr aah teriyaaN LaatTaanN PunNaa-n
LOL Jaawan.
I said I was playing with you, not joking with you.
Mazzaq tau uss kay saath karoon jo samajh sakay.
[This message has been edited by Muzna (edited September 16, 2000).]
However it is hard to say that a policeman should not act as policeman when hes at the station. Whenever you are here you are wearing the uniform of an admin. If we met on the street I would be more then happy to exchange such plesantaries :).
Anyways, enhough has been said by people and
I had wanted to raise the issue, and that I have done and i will leave it at that.
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Originally posted by Muzna:
**hmcq,
I think I've said everything that I think is relevant on the subject. And if I'm bored of repeating it then you must be bored of reading it again and again, so I won't put you through it.
In all the examples that you have used to illustrate your point, you seem to have forgotten one thing: Admins, Mods, judges and policemen all take their uniforms off and have regular lives just like Joe Public. They enjoy the same activities, eat the same food, drink the same water and laugh at the same jokes.
Don't worry about shouting matches hmcq, I have neither the time nor the inclination. If I exchange banter with Jaawan at all it's simply to play. ;) Yeah, sometimes I make a concerted effort to help him as do others but mostly it's for fun. (Yes, fun when my uniform is off and I'm playing.)
All said and done I appreciate your comments hmcq. In fact, I'm flattered that you would have such high expectations of me. Thank you.
Fraudz,
khi,khi,khi kay chachay! Batteesi nikaal kay hanstay rehtay ho. Tehro zara! Baray a'ay!!! Mera aim kafi kuch improve ho chuka hai....maar kay dikha'oon? Rotay raho gay tum bhi.
NYAhmadi,
Beautiful analogy.
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http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hehe.gif
Muzna isn’t your husband enough for you to play with? 
Na to app ki cheap playing chaheye aur na he muzaq, keep the trash to your self please. 
Have a good one.
~mOrE LoVe iS NeVeR eNoUgH~
Jaan-e-mun Jaan-e-Tamanaa
Edharr aah teriyaaN LaatTaanN PunNaa-n
[This message has been edited by Dr LoveLess (edited September 16, 2000).]
Abe ohh Loveless/Jawaan
Here is a disclaimer in case anyone thought I was supporting Loveless/Jawaan.Very clearly-- I was not. I only raised an issue with the tone of a reply that was posted. it had nothing to do with what Jwaaan.Loveless said… in fact from whats been said in the above post, I find his posts rather immature.
SO NOPE I DONT SUPPORT JAWAAN/LOVELESS
Thanks
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Originally posted by Muzna:
**LOL Jaawan.
I said I was playing with you, not joking with you.
Mazzaq tau uss kay saath karoon jo samajh sakay.
[This message has been edited by Muzna (edited September 16, 2000).]**
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Muzna Baji I will not take your "mazaq" seriously so it is ok with me.
come on you are only making a minor thing look so big to make it an issue.
[This message has been edited by Akelay Hum Akelay Tum (edited September 17, 2000).]