Just like the US government has dealt with 11 september? Without full solid proove atatcking Afghanistan? And even if it would have been a Muslim group who did that horrible act, then why didn’t they handle it fairly?
Why kill innocent people, children even, even more victims than 11 september had caused, people who had nothing to do at all with that horrible attack. Peopel who were just trying to make a living of their own??? Why let innocent people suffer for the deed of some crazy idiots? Who ever they were?
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*Originally posted by sadya: *
Not all attacks are done by muslims. ...
Up to today, it isn't 100% prooved that it was indeed a muslim group, that attacked the twin towers on 11 september, there were many other groups that had interests. There are hundreds of theories, no solid proove that it was a Muslim group or bin Laden.
You can't lable any terrost action in the world as being a "muslim attack" jsut because it's fashion to do that nowadays.
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Of course not all attacks worldwide are done my Muslims. I was responding to your defense of bin Laden and company. I hate to be the one to break the truth to you, you seem like a nice and sincere person. But these groups (including bin Laden) are killing innocent people in the guise of religous righteousness. Truthful people all over the world recognize they were responsibile for 9/11. They say it is against the evil and oppressive US government, but they terrorize innocent civilians. How can you expect the US to do anything else to stop these maniacs when Muslims can't even admit it's happening? BTW, don't believe everything you receive as a FW in your email.
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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
Truthful people all over the world recognize they were responsibile for 9/11..
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I suppose the same truthful people are aware of the weapons of mass destruction in iraq too. Please do enlighten me on thw WMD maybe i've missed something that i'm not aware of.
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I suppose the same truthful people are aware of the weapons of mass destruction in iraq too. Please do enlighten me on thw WMD maybe i've missed something that i'm not aware of.
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Please enlighten me as to what that has do with my post or this thread.
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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
Please enlighten me as to what that has do with my post or this thread.
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Point me to the evidence of 'truthfulness' on osama bin laden and 911.
Also what your saying is that anyone that doesn't believe in osama behind 911 is not a truthful person?
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Also what your saying is that anyone that doesn't believe in osama behind 911 is not a truthful person?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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ok, I'll ask you again, show me or point me to a source that proves osama was behind 9/11.
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ok, I'll ask you again, show me or point me to a source that proves osama was behind 9/11.
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Tell us what it would take to prove it to you? That it was discovered he really is a Jew?
How about Osama bin Laden himself?
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That is SO original, especially when it’s coming from the telegraph.
I wish your denial of the truth was as original.
Do you think the Telegraph manufactured this video? I can give dozens of facts that point to the truth, but I’m afraid you are in denial and I don’t have the time or inclination to educate you.
I’d ather be in denial, than be a sucker who falls for fabrications. And to be honest your ‘education’ is of no interest to me. I can think for myself without being educated by the media, which is something you look upon something as holy.
Then keep your head in the sand, no skin off my back.
The suckers and fabricators, however, are those who dream up 4000 missing Jew theories.
Don't you just love the liberal chic?
All the conspiracy theories are just a way of saying, "By choosing not to believe the obvious, I am smarter than thou..."
Occam's Razor generally prevails. A problem should be reduced to it's simplest terms. Or as it is often paraphrased, the simplest answer is probably the correct one.
Bin Laden did it.....
Now that we're slight off topic, i'll go back to the original issue that you didn't want answer, you belive in the 'truthfilness', where are the weapons weapons of mass destruction, or do i have to waste a whole new thread on asking your where the WMD are, after all it was the same people attacked afghanistan and the same people who attcked iraq?
Rally,
I think you will find this to be a summary of most Americans feelings.
Afghanistan--Not a minute of regret. They should not have served as a sanctuary for OBL, they were given plenty of warning. Good-by Taliban.
Most Americans are ambivalent about Iraq. It was an optional war. Whether there was WMD or not, at least there is one tyrant gone. My personal opinion is that Bush should not have highlighted WMD, but should have highlighted Saddams human rights abuses. Whatever.
Could Saddam have posed a threat to the US? Maybe, he won't now.
Long term we are at war with extremists. It will be unlike any other war. It will be long and shaddowy. Brace yourself for a bad decade.
Then in a generation or so we will have a real perspective on the right and wrong on all of this.
It’s not the same video again, from which waht bin Laden said was cut out, is it?
There is no real solid full proove that it was done by bin Laden. It is a possibility yes, but I haven’t seen any proove up to now!
There were other groups which had great interest in this horrible tragedy. It’s possible people caling themselves muslims were behind it, it’s also possible that others were behind it. No solid proove yet!
Perhaps I should open another thread for this, but ..
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 12:15:06 -0400
The repetition of “Isn’t that strange?” is a bit
irritating but worth a read..
“It is the Oil, Stupid!” by Joseph Clifford
The Russians got into their Vietnam right after we
got out of ours?
Isn’t that strange?
We supported Bin Laden and the Taliban for years,
and viewed them as freedom fighters against the Russians?
Isn’t that strange?
As late as 1998 the US was paying the salary of every single Taliban
official in Afghanistan?
Isn’t that strange?
There is more oil and gas in the Caspian Sea area
than in Saudi Arabia,but you need a pipeline through Afghanistan to get
the oil out.
Isn’t that strange?
UNOCAL, a giant American Oil conglomerate, wanted
to build a 1000 mile long pipeline from the Caspian Sea through Afghanistan
to the Arabian Sea.
Isn’t that strange?
UNOCAL spent $10,000,000,000 on geological surveys
for pipeline construction, and very nicely courted the Taliban for their
support in allowing the construction to begin.
Isn’t that strange?
All of the leading Taliban officials were in Texas negotiating with UNOCAL
in 1998.
Isn’t that strange?
1998-1999 the Taliban changed its mind and threw UNOCAL out of the country
and awarded the pipeline project to a company from Argentina.
Isn’t that strange?
John Maresca VP of UNOCAL testified before Congress and said no pipeline
until the Taliban was gone and a more friendly government was established.
Isn’t that strange?
1999-2000 The Taliban became the most evil people in the world.
Isn’t that strange?
Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was told by senior
American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan
would go ahead by the middle of October.
Isn’t that strange?
9/11 WTC disaster.
Bush goes to war against Afghanistan even though none of the hijackers
came from Afghanistan.
Isn’t that strange?
Bush blamed Bin Laden but has never offered any proof saying it’s a
“secret”.
Isn’t that strange?
Taliban offered to negotiate to turn over Bin Laden if we showed them some
proof. We refused; we bombed.
Isn’t that strange?
Bush said: “This is not about nation building. It’s about getting the
terrorists.”
Isn’t that strange?
We have a new government in Afghanistan.
Isn’t that strange?
The leader of that government formerly worked for UNOCAL.
Isn’t that strange?
Bush appoints a special envoy to represent the US to deal with that new
government, who formerly was the “chief consultant to UNOCAL”.
Isn’t that strange?
The Bush family acquired their wealth through oil.
Isn’t that strange?
Bush’s Secretary of Interior was the President of an oil company before
going to Washington.
Isn’t that strange?
George Bush Sr. now works with the “Carlysle Group” specializing in huge
oil investments around the world.
Isn’t that strange?
Condoleezza Rice worked for Chevron before gong to Washington.
Isn’t that strange?
Chevron named one of its newest “supertankers”
after Condoleezza.
Isn’t that strange?
Dick Cheney worked for the giant oil conglomerate Haliburton before
becoming VP.
Isn’t that strange?
Haliburton gave Cheney $34,000,000,000 as a farewell gift when he left
Haliburton.
Isn’t that strange?
Haliburton is in the pipeline construction business.
Isn’t that strange?
There is $6 Trillion dollars worth of oil in the Caspian Sea area.
Isn’t that strange?
The US government quietly announces Jan 31, 2002
we will support the construction of the Trans-Afghanistan pipeline.
Isn’t that strange?
President Musharref (Pakistan), and Karrzai, (Afghanistan -Unocal)
announce agreement to build proposed gas pipeline from Central Asia to
Pakistan via Afghanistan. (Irish Times 02/10/02)
Isn’t that strange?
“It’s the Oil, Stupid!”
Mr. Joseph Clifford contributed above article to Media Monitors Network
(MMN)
from James Town, Rhode Island, USA
More conspiracy chic.....
First, no one spends 10Billion on geological surveys.
Isn't that Stupid!
Second, Cheney did not get 34Billion from HAL.
Isn't that Stupid!
Third, there are many pipelines already leading from the Caspian Basin.
Isn't that Stupid!
Let me know when that Trans-Afghan pipeline gets started. Until there is total peace any pipeline is very vulnerable. Ask the Iraqis and Pakistani's about sabotage to pipelines.
Isn't that stupid!
Jamestown Rhode Island is one word.
Isn't that Stupid!
All in all this is a poorly written and researched piece that plays into the Al Jazeera mindset.
This is no different than the rumor going around Iraq that Americans wear sunglasses, and use night vision goggles to see through womens clothing. Until the sheiks actually wore the glasses, ignorance was fact.