How Americans treat Muslims (+)

Its not a home made production, check it yourself.

Think on the comments of those American who cares and then think why those 22 customers didnt said anything and why those 6 appreciated the hatefulness of the Cashier against Muslims.

Why many cant think as those who stood for Muslims at least offering Muslims the same status as for every other human being.

There are every kind of people in a society. Few more educated and enlightened and few not. The people who did not react the way they should have might not be intelligent enough to judge the situation or like any normal human being does not want to get involve into any kind of situation or might be just pure rednecks.

As of my own experience and with the conversation with other fellow muslims, I found American society more torrent to muslims even more than our own muslim society to different sects.

The video is from an ABC special which wasn’t just about Muslims (if your concern is about equality why didn’t you post the others portions, such as one about Mexicans in the US?). There were some who supported the racists, many who remained silent–but the heartening thing is that most people spoke out against racism. It was a television show. They wanted to show all types of people because it would not be compelling television to show 4 people who denounced the racist, 2 who were silent, and 1 who cheered him. However, at the end of the segment they showed the raw numbers and I was heartened to see that most people actually spoke up. I knew most people here are not racists but I did not know most people feel so strongly against it that they are willing to speak up about it and risk a public confrontation.

I agree. I posted in this thread http://www.paklinks.com/gs/video-gallery/353647-pakistani-harvard-student-refuses-take-title-us-ambassador-2.html about the real situation of Pakistanis and Muslims in America. The key points are:

  1. The US gives more opportunities to Pakistanis than any other country, except perhaps Canada (Saudi Arabia gives 0 rights–you cannot even become a citizen if you are Pakistani, and the UK has a lot of discrimination compared to the US/Canada)

  2. Pakistanis and Muslims are affluent, more affluent than the average American

  3. Indians, not some white ethnic group, are the richest ethnic group in America (Pakistanis are too few for there to be data but since Pakistanis have the same educational levels as Indians presumably Pakistanis make approximately as much as Indians) with the Japanese and Chinese ranking 2nd and 3rd

  4. The US is one of only two countries to ever elect an ethnic minority to its highest office (the other is Peru). Bobby Jindal, an Indian-American, has a great chance of becoming president at some point in the next 20 years and perhaps even in 2012.

  5. As you point out, religious minorities are often persecuted in Muslim nations and this is the case in Pakistan. Whereas Ahmadiyas are persecuted officially and privately in Pakistan, Mormons in the US (the US Christian version of Ahmadiyas in that they are a relatively new, locally born sect which is viewed as heretical by conservative Christians) are not persecuted and a Mormon almost won the Republican nomination for president in 2008 and is considered the front-runner for 2012 (Romney).

Then of course there is flip side of the treatment of Americans in Pakistan. I, the son of Pakistani immigrants, was attacked twice for being from America in Pakistan when I visited there–even though I was only 9 years old at the time! One kid throw sand at me, another hit me with his belt for being an American. What did I ever do to them? Of course, the level of hatred toward Americans in Pakistan is such that these incidents are not surprising. Let’s remember that the US embassy was attacked in 1979–when Islamists took the mosque in Mecca under siege. Yeah, as if the US had anything to do with it! The other example is during the Danish cartoon controversy some idiots in Pakistan decided to torch KFC. They burned an American fast food chain for what one cartoonist did in Denmark. How does that make any sense???

Why do have to be blinded in seeing things. Watch it again, the majority did not support the Muslim girl. Most were quiet, some brave and sane people spoke up in her favor.

You only see what you want to see.

and yes there is no doubt in the fact that United States is a beautiful country where one can freely express one's opinion!!

Ditto!

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It was a television program. The encounters they showed were edited. What were the raw numbers? When they did the segment on Mexicans they showed a few who spoke out, a few who supported the racist, and a few who were silent. At the end they showed the raw numbers and a majority actually spoke up (some said they would never shop at that deli again). The number of people who supported the bigot was a small minority. They did this over several hours, not a 7 minute segment involved five people.

Ah, read the comments in response to the video. The ratio was 13-6 against bigotry with 22 silent. Moreover, this was in Texas. Texas is among the more racist states in the country. The Mexican segment was in New Jersey. There a majority, or at least a plurality, spoke up against the bigot. It was larger than the silent group.

Another factor in this is she was dressed as a conservative Muslim. The ratio would be even better for a regular Muslim, like the one in the video with a white friend.

Two other things: there is a generation gap on matters of race in America. Each generation is more tolerant than the previous one (constant positive evolution!), especially in the South. It is not surprising that the largest bigot in the video was a guy who grew up when the South had racial apartheid against blacks. In addition to the regional difference, there is a difference between a suburb of, say, Chicago and a rural town in southern Illinois. The reason being that metropolitan areas are more diverse, hence slightly more tolerant since you have more contact with people of various ethnic and religious groups. This program was apparently set in a rural town in the most racist region of the country.

I am not a scholar on sociology but I, in addition to having lived here all my life, have done substantial research on the race problem in America. I've read books, articles, numerous polls and surveys on it. I have compared the situation here to that in other countries. Canada is close to the US but the UK and France are far more racist than the US and Canada. Then there are the ultra-racist societies of the East such as Japan, China, Saudi Arabia, and yes, Pakistan. A Pakistani in the local "community" got married to a black woman. The reaction to it was appalling. Most people denounced it in strictly racist terms (I was surprised that no one complained that he did not get an "arranged" marriage or that he married someone who probably is not a Muslim. They say she converted, but every time a Muslim marries a non-Muslim in the West that I know of the non-Muslim is pressured into claiming she or he converted. I doubt it happens in each case but it is revealing that the pressure always comes from the Muslim side. You never see a Muslim say he became a Christian in an inter-religious marriage). On the plus side, the whiners were all 50+ years old and immigrants. Those of us who grew up in the US didn't care at all about her color.

I am not saying there are no problems here but it is a lie and more Islamist propaganda to say that Muslims are persecuted in the US. I don't expect aaho to respond to the facts I put on the table because this is about an agenda, not about opposing bigotry. Where are Islamists on discrimination in their own countries? They complain about France or the UK and yet say nothing--and actually Islamists usually support it--discrimination against minorities in Muslim countries. For instance, has a leader of Jammat Islami ever come out for repealing Ordinance XX?

Edit: I have to credit you, erudition, for admitting there is a problem with the treatment of minority Muslim sects, although I am not sure whether you classify Ahmadiyas as Muslim.

Re: How Americans treat Muslims

Duh, the experiment took place in Texas. Overall Americans treat Muslims better than some Muslims treat each other.

Imagine the same experiment taking place in a "Muslim" country, and that girl being a Hindu or Christian. LOL

American Muslims

VERY EMOTIONAL!!!

Re: American Muslims

There is already a thread about this vid…

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/video-gallery/354510-how-americans-treat-muslims.html

Re: American Muslims

I posted something similiar a while back … a good video :k: