Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
Just as they turned out after the first four operations the last one in bhuttos time.
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
If i recall correctly the last time the Balochis resisted in the form of an insurgency was in the 1970s. Can someone far more well-informed on the matter explain to me why all of a sudden after 30 odd years did they start again? And why specifically when the US moved into the region again?
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
Just as they turned out after the first four operations the last one in bhuttos time.
They didn't pull out after the last 4 operations genius.
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
[RIGHT]ميں فورم پر موجود تمام دوستوں کو يہ باور کروا دينا چاہتا ہوں کہ بلوچستان کے معاملے پر امريکہ کا موقف بالکل واضح ہے۔ امريکی حکومت بلوچستان ميں جاری تشدد پر فکرمند ہے، خاص طور پر ٹارگٹ کلنگ کے واقعات، گمشدہ افراد اور انسانی حقوق کی صريح خلاف ورزی جيسے معاملات۔ ہم انسانی حقوق کی خلاف ورزی کے الزامات کو بہت سنجيدگی سے ليتے ہيں اور اس بات پر پورا يقين رکھتے ہيں کہ يہ ذمہ داری حکومت پاکستان پر عائد ہوتی ہے کہ وہ
ان معاملات کو پرامن مذاکرات سے طے کرے۔
رہا تعلق امریکی کانگریس کی سماعت کا تو يہ، کوئ نئ بات نہیں ہے۔کانگریس معمول کے مطابق خارجہ امور کے متعلق بہت سے ايسے ايشوز پر سماعت کرتی رہتی ہے. ليکن ضروری نہیں کہ اس طرح کی ہر سماعت کے نقطہ نظر کی امریکی توثیق نہيں کرتی ہے۔ ہم بڑی سنجيدگی سے پاکستان کے اتحاد اوراستحکام کی حمایت کرتے ہیں۔
جيسا کہ صدر اوبامہ نے واضع کيا کہ “ہم پچھلے کئ سالوں سے حکومت پاکستان کو يہ بتاتے رہے کہ ہم پاکستان کو ايک مضبوط، خوشحال اور پرامن پاک ديکھنا چاہتے ہيں اور ہم دہشت گردی، جو کہ ايک کينسر کی طرح پورے ملک ميں
پھيل سکتی ہے کو ختم کرنے کے ليے حکومت پاکستان کے ساتھ مل کر کام کر رہے ہيں”۔
امریکہ بلوچستان کے متعلق حکومت پاکستان کے ساتھ مل کر اقتصادی ترقی کے فروغ اورديگر مواقع کو بڑھانے کے
ليے بہت سے مسائل پر کام کر رہا ہے۔
يہ بھی ياد دلاتا چلوں کہ ايک مضبوط، مستحکم اور متحد پاکستان امريکہ کے مفاد ميں ہے۔
ذوالفقار – ڈيجيٹل آؤٹ ريچ ٹيم – يو ايس اسٹيٹ ڈيپارٹمينٹ
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Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
Congressional hearings are not unusual. The U.S. congress routinely holds these types of hearings on a number of foreign affairs topics. These hearings do not always reflect the official stance of the United States government. State department spokesperson Victoria Nuland said this morning that the U.S. administration has not changed its policy and continues to see Baluchistan as part of the Pakistani state. Responding to a question on this topic, Ms. Nuland said, “Our view on Baluchistan has not changed. We are aware of this hearing. As you know, Congress holds hearings on many foreign affairs topics. These hearings don’t necessarily imply that the U.S. government endorses one view or another view. I’d underscore that the State Department is not participating or involved in this hearing.”
We have said before and we would like to say again that we strongly support the unity and the stability of Pakistan. As President Obama stated clearly, “what we have tried to do over the last several years, has been to engage aggressively with the Pakistani government to communicate that we want nothing more than a stable, prosperous, peaceful Pakistan, and that we will work with the Pakistani government in order to eradicate this extremism that we consider a cancer within the country that can potentially engulf the country."
Maj David Nevers
DET-United States Central Command
www.centcom.mil/ur
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
bewaqoof bana raha hai yeh. :@:
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
Congressional hearings are not unusual. The U.S. congress routinely holds these types of hearings on a number of foreign affairs topics. These hearings do not always reflect the official stance of the United States government. State department spokesperson Victoria Nuland said this morning that the U.S. administration has not changed its policy and continues to see Baluchistan as part of the Pakistani state. Responding to a question on this topic, Ms. Nuland said, “Our view on Baluchistan has not changed. We are aware of this hearing. As you know, Congress holds hearings on many foreign affairs topics. These hearings don’t necessarily imply that the U.S. government endorses one view or another view. I’d underscore that the State Department is not participating or involved in this hearing.”
We have said before and we would like to say again that we strongly support the unity and the stability of Pakistan. As President Obama stated clearly, “what we have tried to do over the last several years, has been to engage aggressively with the Pakistani government to communicate that we want nothing more than a stable, prosperous, peaceful Pakistan, and that we will work with the Pakistani government in order to eradicate this extremism that we consider a cancer within the country that can potentially engulf the country."
Maj David Nevers DET-United States Central Command www.centcom.mil/ur
You know what is the truly pathetic part out of all of this? That you have to state that the US government believes Baluchistan is an integral part of Pakistan. That is how far this notion of an independent Baluchistan has gotten in the US.
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Thanks for the post Major, it was very reassuring.
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
I hope to Allah that was sarcasm?
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
You know what is the truly pathetic part out of all of this? That you have to state that the US government believes Baluchistan is an integral part of Pakistan. That is how far this notion of an independent Baluchistan has gotten in the US.
One junior Congressman, out of hundreds - represents American govt policy??
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
On the positive side of things the Baloch population is 6.6 million strong and any rebellious act would be followed by the Army crushing the resistance again.
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
Yeah that is why there was a congressional hearing by the House’s Foreign Relations committee. Just one guy 
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
Again, is this US govt policy? What was the result of this hearing(one of many). Nothing.
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
On the positive side of things the Baloch population is 6.6 million strong and any rebellious act would be followed by the Army crushing the resistance again.
That is not a positive, and is exactly why the Baloch rebellion continues.
If you follow what is happening in Balochistan, you would know about the Pak armies 'kill and dump' policy.
Every day, even non-violent Baloch's are being tortured to death by Pak ISI/MI, and their bodies are just dumped on a roadside.
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
An idea must start somewhere. Or are you gonna say all of this is altruistic? Secondly its enough of an indication when the State Department has to distance itself from the Congressional hearing that something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
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That is not a positive, and is exactly why the Baloch rebellion continues.
If you follow what is happening in Balochistan, you would know about the Pak armies 'kill and dump' policy.
Every day, even non-violent Baloch's are being tortured to death by Pak ISI/MI, and their bodies are just dumped on a roadside.
And the PPP is letting these innocent people be tortured and killed.
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
That is not a positive, and is exactly why the Baloch rebellion continues.
If you follow what is happening in Balochistan, you would know about the Pak armies 'kill and dump' policy.
Every day, even non-violent Baloch's are being tortured to death by Pak ISI/MI, and their bodies are just dumped on a roadside.
Want independence? Pay the price.
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
Want independence? Pay the price.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
This is exactly the attitude that leads to Baloch's rebellion, and will lead to the loss of Balochistan one day.
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
And the PPP is letting these innocent people be tortured and killed.
No elected govt can tell the Army what to do. You know that.
Re: House Hearings on Balochistan: US Mulls Balkanization of Pakistan
You should be ashamed of yourself.
This is exactly the attitude that leads to Baloch's rebellion, and will lead to the loss of Balochistan one day.
The Balochis should be ashamed even attempting to claim independence and it is treason going against your country.