honor killings

I have a question. Its not a simple question, but I’d like your input.

I’m writing a paper for a global policy class I’m taking in which I have to give some suggestions on how to reduce honor killings in Pakistan. I have a few ideas and am pretty comfortable speaking about Pakistan, but am not Pakistani myself, and as such I would really like some input from those who are actually familiar with the area and its people to give me a little input. What do you think the root of this problem is? How do we fix it? Who is it you’d have to talk to in order to actually get something done? Don’t just debate it, what should we actually DO about it?

Thanks for your input and your thoughts. I’m interested to know what you think.

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education, education, education.

remember, not literacy but education

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get rid of such honor that needs killings for preservation :ahaa:

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Why not a focus on literacy? I mean, if rural people could actually READ the Qur'an maybe they could follow it better.

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nah, that wont really matter. many of those people can read the quran. it is part of the culture. its not about that.
if you are banking on religious education being the remedy you are way off.

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i agree...but may i add...not only be able 2 read the Quran but understand it too...now every1 thinks/understands within their limiits so this is when there is a need for all those educated, well read, honest, people 2 come forward 2 make these people understand........plus my instant reply after reading yr post was EDucation......but come 2 think of it...there r so many educated people around but they also indulge in such activities or even worse....just cuz they r in a higher strata of society it is not highlighted..........

honor killing is somethng that has been goin on for ages now...comparitively people r more educated now but has there been any decline in honor killing? i think not. the best solution for minimizing or hopefully gettin rid o this problem is 2 have a balanced society....now is that possible? i dun know...but that seems 2 be the only way out..........when people learn 2 remain in limits and giving people their rights and the people in return respecting those rights....only than we can have an improvement.........

i strongly feel that nobody not even yr parents have a rite over yr life...if they feel what u have done is not rite they have all the rites 2 cut ties with u but killing is no way out........also i believe in many cases the so called victims r 2 be blamed 2...i mean they push their families beyond limits in many cases...on top the society plays the culprit in making them worse for all........

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In Muslim society, culture precedes religion in daily decision making.

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sad but true!

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If i may add:

please also, if your allowed, go off on a tangent and discuss acid attacks in Pakistan. They are frequent (relatively) and are practiced by all members of society.

As for example, Bilal Khar, a prominent Pakistani Politician struck his mistress with Acid, and she never recieved justice because Pakistani Society is “OK” with it.
TIME MAGAZINE: The Evil That Men Do
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,170879,00.html

http://www.westtown.edu/upper/academics/pnjweb/ambensch/acidburning.jpg

If you have time read Durrani’s book: “My Feudal Lord”
http://amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/105-3280465-9454003?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=my+feudal+lord

Taboo: Hidden Culture of a Red Light Area by Fouzia Saeed
The Dancing Girls of Lahore by Louis Brown

HONOR KILLINGS:
As far as honor killings go, honey; it is part and parcel of Pakistani Culture as Tea Time is British Culture, the Mona Lisa is French Culture and Football is American Culture.

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Unless you go and tell them, killing someone doesn't restore your honor, they won't stop honor killings. What we really need there is a rule book and a group that constantly reminds them of these rules. Also since these things aren't brought out and the court isn't involved, we need to have a group of inspectors who can go house to house occasionally (surprise visits). They should be given some authority so people are fearful of them. AND they should be hanged if they are every caught accepting bribery. Education or literacy won't do anything. These "men" are hard wired to commit such acts only to remind women that they are still the dominating ones.

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suicidal girls.
They usually know that its gonna happen but they still have affairs any ways.

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^^^ For a nation that requires 4 witnesses to a Rape Crime, how do you suppose your "plan" will come about. I didnt know girls had wet dreams too.

The women in jail for "sexual indecency" are there because they were raped. What do the police men do? Rape them some more. Than go home and **** their wives too.

No, its always been like this. What you need is a shame campaign. You march the Honor Killers in the nude, parade them over Main Street on the backs of donkeys with a dunce cap over their heads. You encourage the onlookers to throw rocks at him. Then you kill him by laying him in his grave (Alive) and filling it in with animal ****.

Hence he has been defamed. If you give him the death penalty outright, he is only a martyr. You need to defame him. Humiliate him, so others think twice.

Educate them too, but thats only peripheral.

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Honor killing is not done by court/Govt./4 witnesses etc.
Honor killing is done by family member. I don't support killing but get this.
No one love/care for those girls, then their own blood.

Usually when that happens even police don't take serious action.

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Exactly, its part of their cultural makeup. Police dont take action because they feel the honor killing is justifiable.

Why bother working with something when their are rape victims to rape in the prison cells? Thats more enticing.

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^Its more like part of them being human(still).
They know how much family must have suffer losing a child. They don't want to make it worst.