Homosexuality

Hi

I am coming up with all the controversial topics today! Sorry

But I once watched a programme about this being on the rise in Pakistan, and how there are special hidden away clubs.

I mean how can they be muslime and even think of being attracted to the same sex. It’s definitely a disease of the mind,

It’s so unnatural. If it was natural then they would be able to have their own kids and not adopt. I think its a trend and ppl think they are cool or brave to be gay.

They are fools, doomed in this life and thereafter.

Allah pls protect us and our children.

Over to you guys.

Yeah I noticed that too.

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^ha

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Religion comes later. First and foremost they are a human being. If we do not bring religion in to it, and follow what science has to say then due to mutation or whatever they are attracted to the same sex.. now it get's unfortunate because of the religion. I am not advocating for LAGs but we should not hate them as well. Leave them to their haal. Just pray Allah keeps us safe, healthy and stuff.

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Was there something to discuss in this???

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Hate the sin, not the sinner....

Ok now i think we might just discuss!!!

I don't wanna know how u really think, it better suits ones on boundary and life, but here's one thing i would surely like to point out, which is, you are very very wrong on this...

I might just go on and bash such an ideology and stuff, but then i don't see any benefit from such...

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That's why I said don't bring religion in to it. Kher. Oh and you won't get any benefit from bashing me or my ideologies since it is an online forum so I suggest you don't since I won't be taking part in any discussion, argument, or bashing. Peace.

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No, i wasn’t going to go ahead 'cos i knew you would chicken out at the first possible instance.

:hmmm:

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If religion is not an issue. Then Murder is fine. Then molesting a child is fine as well. Thus homosexuality is fine as long as religion is not an issue.

You are right, because i’ll tell you why.

  1. I don’t want a warning
  2. I don’t want to look bad
  3. I don’t want to get banned

Happy posting.

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:smack:

Some just take things tooo damn seriously. It was supposed to be an argument not slaughter. N e ways, cares.

Not sure why people put a post and then have nothing useful to say haha

and yes religion has everything to do with it. as we are morally guided what is wrong and not.

Hate the sin and not the sinner thats also a funny one. Why what sins are you committing that u dont want to be hated for
Joke!!!!

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i feel generally its WRONG !!

BUT if a person naturally is attracted towards all this (scientifically proven due to chemical imbalances) than theres not much u can do but again celebrating it by going to clubs is WRONG!

I totally feel for the people who suffer from such confusion in their lives..it wouldnt be an easy life for them to live..i wish for all such people peace of mind n hope they find the solution to their confusions in their faith & not else where! cuz in the end we all will be answerable..

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my best friend is gay ... and there is nothing in the world he can do to turn it around cuz that's just how it is ... and if he could, he would, because he doesnt like the load of misery it has brought to his life.

p.s. he doesnt go to such clubs, but yes such clubs exist!

1-well first of all your initial post had no real starting oiint of discussion but sharing of an opinion, that is why even others said what is there to discuss

2-religion has said no, as religion as said no to many other things. fact is that god made these ppl and it is their test to resist their temptations just like it is my test to resist the temptations of the hoochie mamas I see at the gym :(

3- hate the sin not the sinner is stated because everyone is weak, people can make mistakes and it is not you or I who will forgive them.

lastly, our approach and viewpoints on these are extremely lame. where is the support, even if someone believes that there is rehab needed, where is that, when all of a sudden all we do is start talking about hating them, then how do you even reach out to them if you want to do something about that i.e. education, discussion. Our approach, attitude about this forces these guys to live on the edges of society, alienated, many commit suicides, many get beaten up for who they are(whether or not believe that they are born this way or have made a choice)

so when we get into such heated viewpoints, just remember, at the end of the day theya re human beings, created by god, and by islamic viewpoint they may be wrong, but the topic, and they need to be handled in a more sensitive manner. Not asking ppl to go out and be pals with ppl theya re uncomfortable witjh, or to endorse their views, but just coexist in a civilized more manner than we see.

How would someone handle it if their son way gay or daughter was lesbian? would you just look down on them with disgust, cut off all ties, hate them..or will you maintain connection, even fully noting that you do not approve of their choice to act upon their feelings etc.

Oh gosh I am trying to understand the dilemma they feel in their heads, but something must have happened in his life to trigger this.

But if he doesn't go to the clubs and be ''proud'' of being gay then he should fight it and say Allah I get these evil thoughts but I will fight them as I do want to be a good muslim and have fear of the hereafter.

Maybe he needs to spend more time with female company. See the beauty in a man and womans relationship.

May ALlah help him.

Anyone here from the UK that watches the soap Eastenders. They have a gay muslim affair running at the moment!

Thanks X2

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People who are gay don't choose to be gay. thats how they are. For us its so easy to think eww its gross but some people are ONLY attracted to the same sex. They think DIFFERENTLy so its impossible for any straight person to put themselves in their shoes.
And quite alot of heterosexual muslims commit alot of sins too so homos aren't the the only ones who commit sins.

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being gay is NOT a sin ... committing gayful deeds in all gayness and consciousness is a SIN.