Re: Homosexuality
first: that, given the language of the Qu'ran and other considerations, one cannot truly make the argument that Sodom was not guilty of sexual misconduct involving homosexual acts.
The second: that these acts are, without a doubt, a reference to the bundle of sins which homosexuality included in the days of the Prophet: rape, fornication, ect.
The third: no law is EVER given regarding homosexuality, nor even a direct mention. One must do a fair amount of assuming to say that the story of Sodom even relates to the lifestyle of the modern gays (it really has more to do with rejecting the messengers which the Almighty sends).
In interpreting the Qu'ran, we must believe and act upon the fact that the Qu'ran is the Full word of the Almighty, and that what He has said and what He has not said are sufficient for us.
Thus, in no way can the story of Sodom be applied to the modern (in pre-common era) phenomenon of gay marriage, gay love, and gay life.
Hi everyone, i just want to share my thought with you, I read the Holy Quran and we got to keep in mind that there is great difference between men to men and man to gay. The story of Sodom and Gomorrah is truly about man forcing them self on other man, raping just to satisfy their false ego as man, the story is not about a man taking a gay, man is man woman is woman and gay is gay, in those days a gay person was not viewed as a man, they had other terms or names for them, so please help spread truth reality and lets help to put a stop and the pushing away of great Muslims from Islam just because you think you are better than or doing better or cause of self-righteousness. People are people, good or bad only Allah knows the heart and the true intentions of all.
In some of the great ancient cultures a gay person was viewed as highly spiritual, it was said they had one foot on heart and the other in the spiritual world, many held high positions as leaders and priests, it's all gone bad cause of the kind of society we live, the fear to be real and truth, but enough is enough.
A man is the one who takes a woman, if he doesn't take a woman then he is gay, so it's all in giving things the right name and giving scriptures the right interpretation, thank you.
no, innateness does not excuse someone from the consequences of his actions. But the comparison you make is a false one. Putting a personal, private, loving relationship between two people on the same level as someone who has violent tendencies is a rather absurd comparison, to be quite frank. Violence by definition involves malice and most importantly it involves intent to cause willful harm to others.
As I said earlier, being gay is really about one thing: love. It has to do with some people in the world being born a certain way, and that certain way meaning that they fall in love with people of the same sex. But you cannot start with the argument that something is immoral and go from there. You must first establish that it is objectively immoral, something which I think is impossible, since I do not think you can come up with any non-religious reason homosexuality is immoral.
We have to find a common philosophical language to speak, because otherwise we will have disagreements on such a fundamental level that we’ll never be able to reconcile them.
In short, we can’t start off a conversation with you telling me “You’re not normal, you’re immoral, now try to convince me otherwise,” because quite frankly from what you have written I think the same thing about you.