To be honest I am confused as to why I am i received infraction points for stating that someone has latent homosexual feelings.
The subject matter was the bulky big ben being built (yay allteration!) in Mecca. I stated that the individual may have latent homosexual feelings because of the phallic symbol of a clock tower.
Now I see nothing insulting in that. Being gay or homosexual is not deeming and it certainly isn’t insulting. Sure it is a cardinal sin in our faith but so is talking to girls or boys not from your family. What you essentially do when you give infraction points for such a comment is that homosexuality is something that is deeming and tacitly support discrimination against those of alternative sexual preferences.
Secondly I would like to discuss the difference between an insult and a perceived insult. Just because someone perceives they have insulted does not make it reality. A few days ago a member named Sarab i believe mocked Faris and stated that he was gay. It was in jest and Faris being the extremely good sport that he always is took it as such. Good on him not making it into a drama.
Why? Because he wasn’t being insulted. It was a joke, mocking sure, but a joke nonetheless.
Now the subject matter at hand for my point as they were Med911 - the member that perceived the insult stated that the big bulky image of big ben would inf act distract him when in the Kaabah if he was praying. My comment was in response a mockery of his comments.
Mockery is an openly accepted form of communication on this website.
So the question is on this website is homosexuality consider deeming and insulting? In other words a gay member of GS would be automatically considered wrong and secondly what is the stance between an actual insult and a perceived insult?
Oh please don’t cop out by stating it is to individual discretion.
There is a fine difference b/w a having a homosexual participating in a discussion and someone mocking others by calling them Gay. In future, please refrain from making jokes that can cost you infraction points. I am sorry but I am not removing your infraction points, even if you write a dissertation in an attempt to prove your innocence.
And there is a difference between mocking somebody and reinforcing a negative stereotype to a select group of people. Put it this way sweetcheeks, if an openly homosexual man posted in the same thread and I made the exact same comment to him, would it still be an insult or a joke?
LMAO! Still as stubborn as always. Yes but it would not be considered an insult. I always get points and don't really care. But this I won't abide by. You lot are reinforcing a negative association with a minority based on a narrow minded and bigoted point of view. That is just pathetic.
You wanna give me points and keep face? Here you go. This is a mother*ing bad idea. You are basically being mother*ing idiots. There go your 10 points. You can save face and in future don't use negative connotations associated with one minority group as an excuse to give points.
Being called gay or being mocked for having homosexual tendencies is not an insult. It is not deeming.
Yet it would not be insulting. Questioning ones sexuality is only deeming if people attribute negative connatations to it, like you have done with those points. That is why in Europe it is not an insult to be called gay and it is not an issue of concern for most people because they know there is nothing wrong with it.
yaar it depends on person to person. its just like saying a very heavy swearing word to someone as a joke and that person taking it seriously while the person who said it was just saying it for fun.
if someone says a gay joke to me.. i will laugh it off or will reply in a funny manner (it all depends as that person is actually joking but not insulting me). for example if i go this party ad my friend says to me laughing "oh u look sooo gay wearing this dress" then surely i wont like it and i will tell them to refrain from such comments.
btw in europe/uk gay community is open but calling someone gay is considered as an insult. u cant just openly say in public "hey are u gay/lesbo?" they wont like it.
also u opened up this thread in this section. so what exactly is the suggestion?
And it is only considered an insult because we perceive it to be negative. What if being gay was used in its original meaning? "Oh that guy is so gay and jolly. He has such a charming personality". Would that be insulting? Nope.
The issue is the perception of the word and how we react. If someone called me gay I would have no problem with it because at the end of the day I do not see it as an insult.
And it is only considered an insult because we perceive it to be negative. What if being gay was used in its original meaning? "Oh that guy is so gay and jolly. He has such a charming personality". Would that be insulting? Nope.
The issue is the perception of the word and how we react. If someone called me gay I would have no problem with it because at the end of the day I do not see it as an insult.
thats what i said it depends on person to person. kuch loag aisi baatain mazaaq main accept ker lete hain kuch nahi kartey. what seems funny to u might not seem funny to someone else and vice versa :).
my suggestion is that if u have joked with someone about something and that person didnot like it then dont discuss it again with them (ofcourse i am not talking about small things) :)
And I am saying people need to stop associating negative stereotypes with a minority based on bias and prejudice. The fact that it is being reinforced as acceptable is in fact unacceptable.
NomiCA dude you are nublet for not even getting grammar on that right. :p
And I am saying people need to stop associating negative stereotypes with a minority based on bias and prejudice. The fact that it is being reinforced as acceptable is in fact unacceptable.
please dont act smart and do not throw big words and philosophical mumbo jambo to justify the insulting comment you posted. Dont think that mods are so stupid that they cannot tell a difference between you discussing a minority group or mocking someone by indirectly calling that person a gay. You have a problem with PA/WA mods, let me know and I will gladly take your posting rights away from those forums so you never have to face them again.
