Correct me if im wrong. My understanding is that Homosexuality is a very major sin but definetly not the same as shirk or kufr ?
So a muslim who commits homosexual acts is still by definition a muslim as he has not attributed partners to Allah.
Re: Homosexuality - A sin but not shirk / kufar ?
Should Zina between a man and a woman be condemned just as much as homosexuality ?
Re: Homosexuality - A sin but not shirk / kufar ?
^ it must be, they r all disobedience of Allah....
Re: Homosexuality - A sin but not shirk / kufar ?
Yes, zina and homosexuality are just as bad as each other. In the Quran the punishment for both of these acts is to be stoned to death so that basically shows the extent of how bad they are deemed to be.
Re: Homosexuality - A sin but not shirk / kufar ?
Don't forget what Allah swt did to the city of Sodom.
Re: Homosexuality - A sin but not shirk / kufar ?
^ Quran does not have any punishment of stoning, neither for homosexuality nor for adultery....
the punishment is taken from hadith, just thought i'd clear it for u....
Re: Homosexuality - A sin but not shirk / kufar ?
Sorry, my bad, thanks 4 correcting that, but the hadith is a just as reliable source for us Muslims and the punishment for these acts shows that they are equally bad.
Re: Homosexuality - A sin but not shirk / kufar ?
Man, you're stuck on that. There have been many azab's from Allah for many different acts of disobedience. But a 'muslim' is one who says La Ilaha Illallah Mohamad ar rasulullah and then believes in that.
Re: Homosexuality - A sin but not shirk / kufar ?
not my fault there are two identical threads going on right now..
Re: Homosexuality - A sin but not shirk / kufar ?
Just thought people need to define the difference between kufr and kuffaar.
The disbelievers = kuffaar
associating partnership with Allah = shirk
disbelief = kufr
The act of the disbeliever is kufr. This includes any form of disobedience to Allah.
The one who performs a prohibited act knowing it is sin is a sinner. The one who performs a prohibited act rejecting its value as a sin is a disbeliever.
This means 'gays' as is commonly understood by the term are not Muslim as they perform their acts by rejecting the sin which is attached to the act. Some homosexuals however if they know their lusts are wrong and lead to sin but still do them they are wrongdoers - mujrimun and zalimun. They should be working to correct themselves .. if they don't this can be interpretted as kufr also ... Generally gays are kafir but Allah is the Knower of the hearts.