The Brits were smart, they handed over southern parts without bloodshed… Its called when push comes to shove…Now lets have the spin please.
Holy city of Najaf not under coalition control: Rumsfeld
Wed Apr 7, 4:27 PM ET Add Politics - AFP to My Yahoo!
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The Iraqi holy city of Najaf, where radical Shiite Muslim leader Moqtada Sadr has reportedly taken refuge, is not under the control of US-led coalition forces, US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said.
The Iraqi holy city of Najaf, where radical Shiite Muslim leader Moqtada Sadr has reportedly taken refuge, is not under the control of US-led coalition forces, US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said.
Another retreat. But of course there will be the usual spin…
I am hoping that sistani will eventualy join the fight. because if this uprising spreads and more and more Shias and Sunnis join hands and become popular Sistani will feel left out. Have you also noticed that Shias never took up arms against saddy. Where were all these Shia insurgents during Saddys years? Why are they coming out of the woodwork now? They hate the Americans more than they hated Saddy. That should tell you something…
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*They hate the Americans more than they hated Saddy. That should tell you something... *
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That is so true. Across Iraq, but especially in the Shia-majority towns the resistance has spread like a wildfire, and has caught the occupation forces off guard big time. One thing is certain. Ayatollah Sistani (who only weeks ago warned the US-imposed constiution was a recipe for civil war) will never side with the American's over his fellow Shia's.
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That is so true. Aross Iraq, but especially in the Shia-majority towns the resistance has spread like a wildfire, and has caught the occupation forces off guard big time. One thing is certain. Ayatollah Sistani (who only weeks ago warned the US-imposed constiution was a recipe for civil war) will never side with the American's over his fellow Shia's.
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I am trying to locate the news source about Sistanis warnings... He said he will ask the scums to leave peacefully, then there will be some demostrations. And if the scums still don't understand then he will do little kim on them.
I would like to know what Ayotullah Seestani thinks about the whole situation right now..majority of the shias are in his taqleed
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I am hoping that sistani will eventualy join the fight. because if this uprising spreads and more and more Shias and Sunnis join hands and become popular Sistani will feel left out. Have you also noticed that Shias never took up arms against saddy. Where were all these Shia insurgents during Saddys years? Why are they coming out of the woodwork now? They hate the Americans more than they hated Saddy. That should tell you something...
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Hain? But didn't Saddam kill thousands of shias? How were they gonna fight him and his likes?
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I would like to know what Ayotullah Seestani thinks about the whole situation right now..majority of the shias are in his taqleed
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He is probably waiting for Arbaeen-e Hussaini (Chehlum) to passed away peacefully before the shias goes out in full force.
This warning a couple of months ago:-
***In Sistani’s home town of Najaf, his supporters threatened to rise up if they did not get their way. “If the United Nations and Americans do not fulfil the wish of our religious scholars then fatwas (religious edicts) will follow,” Sheikh Rida Hamdani, a Sistani follower, said. “At first there will be demonstrations or civil disobedience and finally armed struggle.” “We are all behind Sistani, and Shi’ites all have arms,” Hussein Khalifa, a 43-year-old community elder, said. ***
Blow to US as ayatollah fails to condemn uprising
The coalition position worsened considerably last night when the most senior cleric in Iraq, Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, a moderate, refused to condemn Mr Sadr’s uprising. Instead, he condemned “the methods used by occupation forces in the current escalating situation in Iraq … and any action that disturbs order and prevents officials from carrying out their duties”.
The US-appointed governing council also urged the Americans not to make the crisis worse by excessive force.
“More violence will cause more violence and this will be an endless spiral. We all made these points,” Adnan Pachachi, a council member and former foreign minister, said.
Sistani has basically condemned the actions taken by the USA against the freedom fighters, but he’s not condemned the freedom fighters themselves.
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Hain? But didn't Saddam kill thousands of shias? How were they gonna fight him and his likes?
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Hain!!! If saddy killed all shias then where are they coming from now...
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Hain!!! If saddy killed all shias then where are they coming from now...
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He didn't kill all shias, just 10% of them.
The Shia militias mean business...
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Too bad their 'business' isn't for the betterment of Iraq. Do you have any pictures of the foreign aid workers being held hostage? They mean business too.
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Too bad their 'business' isn't for the betterment of Iraq.
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They want the invaders and colonialist occupiers out of their country, which is always better for their country. Just like some people wanted colonialist occupiers out of their country some centuries ago.
The only business the occupiers seem to mean is mowing down civilians - women and children, with their helicopter gunships and tanks. Do you have any pictures of that?
The occupiers are trying to bring freedom (whether they have a right to do so is another issue). If they wanted to mow down civliians they could have killed more in the first day of the war than they have in the year since. So let's get the US out and see how many civilians get killed in the aftermath.
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The occupiers are trying to bring freedom...
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Yes sure, killing 10,000 plus Iraqi's must be in that pursuit huh?
I wish to see no more deaths of innocent people. I hope the US soldiers set an example and commit suicide in their 1000's to prevent one more child being 'collaterally damaged'
Hmmm so what exactly are americans doing in Iraq, other than getting killed....