History of Bollywood

[SaeedinPakistan]

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what!??!! he is not a she?

I don't know. I've always been under the impression that queer is a dude, not a dudette.

[hareem01]

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What did Saif do this time?

I'm sorry but you're losing my respect everyday. Please stay on topic. I can't believe you actually received likes (it's expected from Reha but Muzna?) for this post that actually gave everyone a signal to gang up on me.

[Southie]

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I'm sorry but you're losing my respect everyday. Please stay on topic. I can't believe you actually received likes (it's expected from Reha but Muzna?) for this post that actually gave everyone a signal to gang up on me.

Come on Hareem. Just chill. I wrote that as a joke. There was no malicious intent.

Anyway, humne woh post Tretayug mein likhi thi. Aap itni yugon ke baad us post ki charcha kar rahi hain.

PS. None of my subsequent posts were remotely directed at you. Chalo milao haath (thru the air of course)

[hareem01]

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Come on Hareem. Just chill. I wrote that as a joke. There was no malicious intent.

Anyway, humne woh post Tretayug mein likhi thi. Aap itni yugon ke baad us post ki charcha kar rahi hain.

You're right. It wasn't your fault. But it wasn't a joke. It was sarcasm.

[Southie]

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You're right. It wasn't your fault. But it wasn't a joke. It was sarcasm.

Aray bhai, light sarcasm without malicious intent is supposed to be in good humor. (To tell you the truth I didn't open the link. Saw Bollywood. Saif was fresh in my mind.)

[hareem01]

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It has to be the jews. They're the ones who are silently perpetuating the moral destruction of communities ever since they came out of Babylon. The concept of "love" which is so profoundly expressed has to be noted with a telescope. Why does all the bollywood movies have the concept of love shoved down our throats? Why is that Bollywood rarely ever finds any other topic to create a movie on. Even if the movie deals with other topics the main theme always tends to deal with love.

Now the main theme which is Love is not wholly focused towards the positive love. Not the love of family or of humanity or of life itself but emphasis is added on towards love between a boy and a girl. Usually it's shown that the teenagers fall in love and rebel against their parents wishes. The parents are shown as some sort of fascists dictators trying their very best to separate the two lovers. The very interesting thing happened to the Indian culture when the the movie "Mughal e azam" was released in cinemas. It had a very interesting song, which rebelliously declared "Jab pyaar kiya to darna kya". Now the setting of the song was in Mughal times, and Anar Kali's audience was Akbar himself. She professed her love and blatantly declared it in his court.

But the song affected the younger audicenes at the time. Who found an alley from this song to profess their desires as well and to rebel against their parents. Thus the concept of Love marriage was introduced forever destroying the concept of holy matrimony My views exclusively. This was the plan of the devil. To make children immoral and to have them go against the wish of their parents. To rebel to do what they want. "Do what thou will, shall be the rule of the law". The devil's whole philosophy is rebellion, he taught Eve that when he entice her to taste of the fruit of knowledge. These concept make us rebellious from the start. First rebellious towards are parents and then towards religion and then towards God. Once we are rebellious towards God then we become slaves of our egos, we give in to our desires, we become slaves of the nafs. Then the devil can incite us more and more and we have no walls to shield us no self mortification to control our desires.

This is the very reason why I have stopped watching dramas and movies. The only project and teach rebellion to younger generation. Look at the depravity that we have now among our youth. This has been the devil's plan from the beginning. We're now seeing the plans unfold which started back in 1930s.

hmmm...just like Disney.

Also, unlike some Hollywood movies, all Bollywood movies are dumb. They lack reasoning and depth. I think it's a too to dumb down the masses to control them.

[hareem01]

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@redvelvet

This thread isn’t about anything new that Saif has done. It’s simply presenting one view among others on the history of Bollywood and members are welcome to agree or disagree, but there’s no need to mock or even gang up on the OP as she isn’t mocking anyone in this thread.

An analogy that comes to mind is that of advertising, which sends out a variety of messages to the consumer which may be beneficial or unhealthy. There could be terms and conditions in fine print that are very important but not blatantly put out, there are a variety of techniques used and some of them are deceptive. And it’s naivete to think that people are not influenced by ads with non-celebs, imagine the impact of those that utilize celebrities. So, it’s important to be an informed consumer. Similarly the movies, music, and celebrity interviews do indeed impact society. You look at the attitudes (materialism, recklessness, etc) in TV programs and if you don’t think that they are mirrored by society, you’re kidding yourself. Celebrities are trend-setters…people buy the products they endorse and proudly exclaim that I bought the same purse that Angelina wore. Some of those trends such as twerking among others are not healthy and it would be naive to think that people, especially the more impressionable youth, are not affected by it.

To understand what’s going on in Bollywood, it may be better to start off with researching the origins and history of Hollywood. B’wood may churn out more movies, but it’s Hollywood that its inspired by and tries to ape. The Illuminati heavily rely on the movies and music etc to create a shift in the moral values of society…over time. Not just the movies and music, but they depend on celebrities to promote certain attitudes in their interviews and off-screen as well. It’s a gradual process, a gradual numbing; doesn’t happen overnight. Over time, the influence spread over to Bollywood as well. I’ve researched this for several, several months…I didn’t just watch one video. So, do your investigating before dismissing someone.

Now going back to the Saif interview. There’s nothing “neutral” about saying that Islam needs to change and that a new Islam needs to come about. There is nothing diplomatic about such a statement. I don’t think followers of other religions will take kindly to the comment that their religion, as they currently practice it, needs to be abolished and replaced with a newer and better version of Christianity or Judaisim or Hinduism or whatever other ism. Just because Saif said that Islam is a “peaceful” religion does not blind me to him saying that a new Islam is needed. Some people dismiss the interview thinking that “Pfft since when does Saif represent Islam and why should he even be taken seriously, let him have his opinion and move on.” Someone with a strong iman is not going to be as affected, but there are hordes of people out there (Muslims and otherwise) who hang on to every word of these celebs. Look at the disturbingly passionate (and obsessed) comments from readers on the website, Pinkvilla…they start barking at each other for differing preferences in celebrities…they instigate online wars and the defend their favorite celebs with such a gusto…it’s as though they live with stars. They see one pic of a star and they pathetically start gushing “Aishwarya is the best mother in the world and a too much good human being…better than that Sushmita.” How do you know? Do you live with her 24/7? And God forbid, that you even bring this point up…because they truly do believe they know their celeb idols better than the parents who birthed them.

Seeing this level of “reverence” for the celebs, I don’t think that the stupid things they say in their interviews or lyrics should be so easily dismissed. While I don’t advocate that one get riled-up and go to the length of giving death threats or to dwell heavily on a celeb’s comments for the rest of the day…I also don’t think there’s anything wrong in expressing disapproval. When you see goray folks condemning Miley Cyrus’s depraved performances, I don’t come across other goray people chiding that “She’s not the a devout Christian so don’t let her actions get under your skin”…The thing is that the disapproval has NOTHING to do with Miley’s own religion or level of religiosity. Rather the disapproval is expressed due to the realization that her actions impact the mentality of many impressionable, foolish minds who blindly look up to her…that’s the reason for the disapproval. Strangely we Muslims get irked if our own people express disapproval of a celeb’s comments or actions? Why? Nobody here on the forum is going to issue a fatwa or a threat or warrant for arrest…and while I don’t agree with condemning a celeb to hell as judgment belongs to Allah…I don’t think that expressing disapproval and condemnation for certain comments and actions is unreasonable knowing the power and influence these celebs have on the masses and trends in attitudes/beliefs etc.

Excellent points RV. :k:

[McPendo]

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hmmm...just like Disney.

Also, unlike some Hollywood movies, all Bollywood movies are dumb. They lack reasoning and depth. I think it's a too to dumb down the masses to control them.

Not all, some are specifically targeted towards the elite and have massive propaganda in them. There is a lot of symbology as well infused in the scenes. But the profane aren't able to understand the meaning but the initiated ones the ones who can see the meaning behind the symbol understand the significance.

Movies that describe the elite are, 2001 a space odyssey , the 9th gate, Eyes Wide shut, Star-Wars, The Matrix, From Hell.

Watch 2001 a space odyssey while taking a note of all the symbolism you'll see and you'll realize that it's not just a a fancy sci-fi movie.

[Southie]

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Greek symbols are the worst.

[McPendo]

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Greek symbols are the worst.

Ah but the profane hold sway over the minds of men...

[hareem01]

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Not all, some are specifically targeted towards the elite and have massive propaganda in them. There is a lot of symbology as well infused in the scenes. But the profane aren't able to understand the meaning but the initiated ones the ones who can see the meaning behind the symbol understand the significance.

Movies that describe the elite are, 2001 a space odyssey , the 9th gate, Eyes Wide shut, Star-Wars, The Matrix, From Hell.

Watch 2001 a space odyssey while taking a note of all the symbolism you'll see and you'll realize that it's not just a a fancy sci-fi movie.

I've seen Eyes Wide Shut I knew it contained a lot of propaganda. But Star-Wars? Seriously?

[McPendo]

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@hareem01

I’ve seen Eyes Wide Shut I knew it contained a lot of propaganda. But Star-Wars? Seriously?

Oh yes! you think that Star-wars is just a kids movie with space and nice aliens and all of that but it has a specific deeper meaning.

Read this : Star Wars from a esoteric view. [Archive] - The Phora

[hareem01]

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@McPendo

Oh yes! you think that Star-wars is just a kids movie with space and nice aliens and all of that but it has a specific deeper meaning.

Read this : Star Wars from a esoteric view. [Archive] - The Phora

That I’m gonna have to read in my spare peaceful time when kids are asleep etc. I’ve heard that a lot of stuff in Star-Wars was taken from Christian and Islamic sources. One of the Naqshbandi scholar I know has even written a book on this topic.

Alchemy in Middle-Earth : Shelton, Mahmoud: Amazon.co.uk: Books

[McPendo]

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@hareem01

That I’m gonna have to read in my spare peaceful time when kids are asleep etc. I’ve heard that a lot of stuff in Star-Wars was taken from Christian and Islamic sources. One of the Naqshbandi scholar I know has even written a book on this topic.
Amazon.co.uk

Both Star-wars and the Lord of the rings are highly esoteric and deal with the occult, it has no significance with Abrahamic religions. It may appear that the themes in the movies projected are christian and islamic but in truth they’re not they are a mask as to not reveal the true nature of the philosophy. If you read the Lord of the Rings the 1st book in the prologue JRR Tolkin specifically states that his book has no connection with either the religion or the world war 2 that was going on when he wrote the book. But his book deals on a much deeper and subtle manner. What he was trying to say was that “Only those who understand will fully grasp the meaning behind my book”. This dualism is very common in Hollywood, just like how these crafty jewish women hid their jewish names so do these jewish directors hide occult meaning in their movies. Jews have a long history of deceiving and tricking.

[hareem01]

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@McPendo

Both Star-wars and the Lord of the rings are highly esoteric and deal with the occult, it has no significance with Abrahamic religions. It may appear that the themes in the movies projected are christian and islamic but in truth they're not they are a mask as to not reveal the true nature of the philosophy. If you read the Lord of the Rings the 1st book in the prologue JRR Tolkin specifically states that his book has no connection with either the religion or the world war 2 that was going on when he wrote the book. But his book deals on a much deeper and subtle manner. What he was trying to say was that "Only those who understand will fully grasp the meaning behind my book". This dualism is very common in Hollywood, just like how these crafty jewish women hid their jewish names so do these jewish directors hide occult meaning in their movies. Jews have a long history of deceiving and tricking.

Very interesting. I never imagined it to be the case but you might be pretty right about it. I'll discuss this with my husband as he often quotes from Star-Wars.

[McPendo]

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Very interesting. I never imagined it to be the case but you might be pretty right about it. I'll discuss this with my husband as he often quotes from Star-Wars.

If he's a star-wars fan he'll out right reject it, because he hasn't seen star wars through the critical lens. Does he study the occult?

[hareem01]

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If he's a star-wars fan he'll out right reject it, because he hasn't seen star wars through the critical lens. Does he study the occult?

He has done some research...I'm not sure how much of it I should reveal. I would direct him to you...may be you guys can discuss through pm or emails. I'm sure he would find your ideas very interesting.

[Southie]

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This thread is getting derailed. Back to Bollywood please.

[Sady]

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I had responded to this thread because it was posted in 'General' section of this website. No more participation from me as I keep away from filthy places such as "BOLLYSH!T".

[shehzadamc]

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It did. Typical queen.