History is different from farce: Dr Mubarak

He is telling the truth. History of Pakistan has been distorted and fabricated. The damage caused by this distortion is permanent now. It is too late to recognize this blunder. Perhaps that is why at national level people are divided on national key issues.

History is different from farce: Dr Mubarak -DAWN - National; July 09, 2008

ISLAMABAD, July 8: Eminent historian and thinker Dr Mubarak Ali says the history written in Pakistan had been “dictated” by the ruling Establishment and represents its wilful perversion of facts “to accord with a fabricated ideology”.

“No authentic history has yet been written about Pakistan and its independence. There is a lot of confusion among the so-called pro-Establishment historians and educationists. Whatever has been written so far is distortion of history and entirely unbalanced,” Dr Ali told Dawn in an interview.

Unless the distortions were removed and facts told as they existed, the nation could not hope to make any real progress, he said, adding: “This is the lesson history has taught us”.

Dr Ali, who was interviewed over the weekend after he gave a lecture on the subject at Safma Media Centre the other day, said writing history in an ideological state was a problem.

“We project the deeds of our leaders out of proportion and ignore their crimes and blunders. Our modern history is also in a quagmire of confusion as our historians do not know the direction their work should take. They were unmindful of society’s need for truth and confused whether Pakistan’s history begins from the Indus civilization, or from Mohammad bin Qasim’s attack on Sindh or from 1947 the year it was born.
“Historians like Dr Ishtiaq Hussain Qureshi, S.M. Ikram and Moinul Haq wrote history, as dictated by dictators like Gen Ayub Khan, on two premises: the two-nation theory and greater national unity. There writings are more anti-Hindu than about British colonialism.
“Some historians negated our ancient Indian and South Asian roots and tried to establish our links with Central Asia or with the Middle East which was historical and intellectual dishonesty,” said Dr Ali.
Fanciful novels written by Maulana Abdul Haleem Sharar, Naseem Hijazi and the likes were taken for history.
Gen Ayub in fact replaced the subject of history in school curriculum with social studies and the history departments of the universities in the country accordingly produced textbooks which contained articles by pro-Establishment writers who excluded the whole ancient South Asian history and blamed the downfall of the Muslim rule on Emperor Akbar, not Aurangzeb, he said.
Akbar and his courtiers never used the expression Deen-i-Ilahi but the textbooks projected this opinion as if he had invented a new religion, he added.

Asked how the history of Pakistan could be rewritten, Dr Ali said an independent institute should research the regional and small nationalities’ history and their role in the anti-colonial struggle “from the perspective of masses, not of rulers”.

“History is not just compiling and recording past events. Its real work lies in analysing the events,” he said, stressing that objective interpretation of past societies and civilisations was important to correct past mistakes and move forward in the right direction.

For that he called for grooming independent researchers outside the control of government institutions. Dictatorship was fatal for research and objective recording of facts and correct analysis, he observed.

History, like culture, is influenced by politics. Any system based on oppression, coercion and authoritarianism was the first problem in the way of writing history, he noted.

Dr Ali emphasised that no country could progress in any field unless it learned from its past and that would be possible only when independent historians record and analyse historical events in their true perspective.

Dr. Kazi had published a similar article about myths of history in Pakistan. Here are some the common history myths in Pakistan as narrated by her.

The myth of history

By Prof Shahida Kazi

We, in Pakistan, are a breed apart. Lacking a proper mythology like
most other races, we have created our own, populated by a whole
pantheon of superheroes who have a wide range of heroic exploits to
their credit.

But the difference is that these superheroes, instead of being a
part of a remote and prehistoric period, belong very much to our own
times. A seemingly veritable mythology has been created around these
heroes, their persona and their achievements, which is drummed into
the heads of our children from the time they start going to school.
So deep is this indoctrination that any attempt to uncover the facts
or reveal the truth is considered nothing less than blasphemous.

Here are some of the most common myths:

Myth 1
Our history begins from 712AD, when Mohammad bin Qasim arrived in
the subcontinent and conquered the port of Debal.

Take any social studies or Pakistan studies book, it starts with
Mohammad bin Qasim. What was there before his arrival? Yes, cruel
and despotic Hindu kings like Raja Dahir and the oppressed and
uncivilized populace anxiously waiting for a liberator to free
them from the clutches of such cruel kings. And when the liberator
came, he was welcomed with open arms and the grateful people
converted to Islam en mass.

Did it really happen? This version of our history conveniently
forgets that the area where our country is situated has had a long
and glorious history of 6,000 years. Forget Moenjo Daro. We do not
know enough about it. But recorded history tells us that before
Mohammad Bin Qasim, this area, roughly encompassing Sindh, Punjab
and some parts of the NWFP, was ruled by no less than 12 different
dynasties from different parts of the world, including the Persians
(during the Achamaenian period), the Greeks comprising the
Bactrians, Scthians and Parthians, the Kushanas from China, and the
Huns (of Attila fame) who also came from China, besides a number of
Hindu dynasties including great rulers like Chandragupta Maurya and
Asoka.

During the Gandhara period, this region had the distinction of being
home to one of the biggest and most important universities of the
world at our very own Taxila. We used to be highly civilized, well-
educated, prosperous, creative and economically productive people,
and many countries benefited a lot from us, intellectually as well
as economically. This is something we better not forget. But do we
tell this to our children? No. And so the myth continues from
generation to generation.

Myth 2
Mohammad Bin Qasim came to India to help oppressed widows and orphan
girls.

Because of our blissful ignorance of history, we dont know, or
dont bother to know, that this period was the age of expansion of
the Islamic empire. The Arabs had conquered a large portion of the
world, comprising the entire Middle East, Persia, North Africa and
Spain. Therefore, it defies logic that they would not seek to
conquer India, the land of legendary treasures.

In fact, the Arabs had sent their first expedition to India during
Hazrat Umar Farooqs tenure. A subsequent expedition had come to
Makran during Hazrat Usmans rule. But they had been unsuccessful in
making any in-roads into the region. Later on, following the refusal
of the king to give compensation for the ships captured by pirates
(which incidentally included eight ships full of treasures from Sri
Lanka, and not just women and girls), two expeditions had already
been sent to India, but they proved unsuccessful. It was the third
expedition brought by Mohammad Bin Qasim which succeeded in
capturing Sindh, from Mansura to Multan. However, because of the
Arabs internal dissension and political infighting, Sindh remained
a neglected outpost of the Arab empire, and soon reverted to local
kings.

Myth 3
The myth of the idol-breaker.

Mahmood Ghaznavi, the great son of Islam and idol-breaker par
excellence, took upon himself to destroy idols all over India and
spread Islam in the subcontinent.

Mahmud, who came from neighbouring Ghazni, Central Asia, invaded
India no less than 17 times. But except Punjab, he made no attempt
to conquer any other part of the country or to try and consolidate
his rule over the rest of India. In fact, the only thing that
attracted him was the treasures of India, gold and precious stones,
of which he took care and carried back home a considerable amount
every time he raided the country. Temples in India were a repository
of large amounts of treasure at the time, as were the churches in
Europe, hence his special interest in temples and idols.

Contrary to popular belief, it was not the kings, the Central Asian
sultans who ruled for over 300 years and the Mughals who ruled for
another 300 years, who brought Islam to the subcontinent. That work
was accomplished by the Sufi Sheikhs who came to India mainly to
escape persecution from the fundamentalists back home, and who,
through their high-mindedness, love for humanity, compassion,
tolerance and simple living won the hearts of the people of all
religions.

Myth 4
The myth of the cap-stitcher.

Of all the kings who have ruled the subcontinent, the one singled
out for greatest praise in our text books is Aurangzeb, the last of
the great Mughals. Baber built the empire; Humayun lost it and got
it back; Akbar expanded and consolidated it; Jahangir was known for
his sense of justice; Shahjehan for his magnificent buildings. But
it is Aurangzeb, known as a pious man, who grabs the most attention.
The prevalent myth is that he did not spend money from the treasury
for his personal needs, but fulfilled them by stitching caps and
copying out the Holy Quran. Is there any real need for discussing
this assertion? Anyone who is least bit familiar with the Mughal
lifestyle would know how expensive it was to maintain their dozens
of palaces. The Mughals used to have many wives, children,
courtiers, concubines and slaves who would be present in each
palace, whose needs had to be met. Could such expenses be met by
stitching caps? And even if the king was stitching caps, would
people buy them and use them as ordinary caps? Would they not pay
exorbitant prices for them and keep them as heirlooms? Would a king,
whose focus had to be on military threats surrounding him from all
sides and on the need to save and consolidate a huge empire, have
the time and leisure to sit and stitch caps? Lets not forget that
the person we are referring to as a pious Muslim was the same who
became king after he imprisoned his won father in a cell in his
palace and killed all his brothers to prevent them from taking over
the throne.

Myth 5
It was the Muslims who were responsible for the war of 1857; and it
was the Muslims who bore the brunt of persecution in the aftermath
of the war, while the Hindus were natural collaborators of the
British.

It is true that more Muslim regiments than Hindu rose up against the
British in 1857. But the Hindus also played a major role in the
battle (the courageous Rani of Jhansi is a prime example); and if
Muslim soldiers were inflamed by the rumour that the cartridges were
laced with pig fat, in the case of Hindus, the rumour was that it
was cow fat. And a large number of Muslims remained loyal to the
British to the very end. (The most illustrious of them being Sir
Syed Ahmed Khan.)

Furthermore, the Muslims did not lose their empire after 1857. The
British had already become masters of most of India before that
time, having grasped vast territories from both Hindu and Muslim
rulers through guile and subterfuge.

The Mughal emperor at the time was a ruler in name only; his
jurisdiction did not extend beyond Delhi. After 1857, the Hindus
prospered, because they were clever enough to acquire modern
education, learn the English language, and take to trade and
commerce. The Muslims were only land owners, wedded to the dreams of
the past pomp and glory, and when their lands were taken away, they
were left with nothing; their madressah education and proficiency in
Persian proved to be of no help. As a matter of fact, it was a
hindrance in such changing times.

Myth 6
The Muslims were in the forefront of the struggle against the
British and were singled out for unfair treatment by the latter.

Not at all. In fact, the first gift given to the Muslims by the
British was in 1905 in the form of partition of Bengal (later
revoked in 1911). The Shimla delegation of 1906 has rightly been
called a command performance the Muslims were assured by the
viceroy of separate electorates and weightage as soon as their
leaders asked for them. After that, he Muslim League came into
being, established by pro-British stalwarts like the Aga Khan,
Justice Amir Ali, some other nawabs and feudal lords. And the first
objective of the Muslim League manifesto read: To promote feelings
of loyalty to the British government.

The Muslim League never carried out any agitation against the
British. The only time the Muslims agitated was during the Khilafat
Movement in the early 20s, led by the Ali brothers and other
radical leaders. Not a single Muslim League leader, including the
Quaid-i-Azam, ever went to jail. It was the Congress which continued
the anti-British non-violent and non-cooperation movement in the
30s and 40s, including the famous Quit India
movement, while
Muslim League leaders continued to denounce such movements and
exhorted their followers not to take part in them.

Myth 7
The Muslim League was the only representative body of the Muslims.

It is an incontrovertible fact that it was only after 1940 that the
Muslim League established itself as a popular party among the
Muslims. Prior to that, as evident in the 1937 elections, the Muslim
League did not succeed in forming the government in any of the
Muslim majority provinces. In those elections, out of the total of
482 Muslim seats, the Muslim League won only 103 (less than one-
fourth of the total). Other seats went either to Congress Muslims or
to nationalist parties such as the Punjab Unionist Party, the Sind
Unionist Party and the Krishak Proja Party of Bengal.

Myth 8
Allama Iqbal was the first person to come up with the idea of a
separate Muslim state.

This is one of the most deeply embedded myths in our country and the
one which has been propagated by all governments. In fact, the idea
that Muslim majority provinces of the north-west formed a natural
group and should be considered a single bloc had been mooted by the
British as far back as 1858 and freely discussed in various
newspaper articles and on political platforms. Several variations of
the idea had come from important public personalities, including
British, Muslims and some Hindus. By the time Allama Iqbal gave his
famous speech in 1930, the idea had been put forward at least 64
times. So, Iqbal voiced something which was already there, and was
not an original dream. After his speech at Allahbad was
reported,
Allama Iqbal published a retraction in a British newspaper that
he
had not been talking of a separate Muslim sate, but only of a Muslim
bloc within the Indian federation.

Myth 9
The Pakistan Resolution envisaged a single Muslim state.

The fact is that none of the proposals regarding the Muslim bloc
mooted by different individuals or parties had included East Bengal
in it. The emphasis had always been on north-western provinces,
which shared common frontiers, while other Muslim majority states,
such as Bengal and Hyderabad, were envisaged as separate blocs. So,
it was in the Pakistan Resolution. The resolution reads: The areas
in which the Muslims are numerically in a majority as in the north-
western and eastern zones of India should be grouped to constitute
independent states, in which the constituent units shall be
autonomous and sovereign.

Leaving aside the poor and ambiguous drafting of the entire
resolution, the part about states (in plural) is very clear. It was
only in 1946, at a convention of the Muslim League legislators in
Delhi, that the original resolution was amended, which was adopted
at a general Muslim League session and the objective became a single
state.

Myth 10
March 23, 1940 is celebrated because the Pakistan Resolution was
adopted on that day. The fact of the matter is that the Pakistan
Resolution was only introduced on March 23 and was finally adopted
on March 24 (the second and final day of the session).

As to why we celebrate March 23 is another story altogether. The day
was never celebrated before 1956. It was first celebrated that year
as the Republic Day to mark the passage of the first constitution
and Pakistans emergence as a truly independent republic. It had the
same importance for us as January 26 for India. But when Gen Ayub
abrogated the constitution and established martial law in 1958, he
was faced with a dilemma. He could not let the country celebrate a
day commemorating the constitution that he had himself torn apart,
nor could he cancel the celebration altogether. A way-out was found
by keeping the celebration, but giving it another name: the Pakistan
Resolution Day.

Myth 11
It was Ghulam Muhammad who created imbalance of power between the
prime minister and head of state, and it was he who sought to
establish the supremacy of the governor-general over the prime
minister and parliament.

When Pakistan came into being, the British governments India Act of
1935 was adopted as the working constitution. And it was the Quaid-i-
Azam himself who introduced certain amendments to the act to make
the governor-general the supreme authority. It was under these
powers that the Quaid-i-Azam dismissed the government of Dr Khan
Sahib in the NWFP in August 1947 and that of Mr Ayub Khuhro in Sindh
in 1948.

Besides being governor-general, the Quaid-i-Azam also continued as
president of the Muslim League and president of the Constituent
Assembly.

It was these same powers under which Mr Daultanas government was
dismissed in Punjab in 1949 by Khawaja Nazimuddin, who himself was
dismissed as prime minister in 1953 by Ghulam Mohammad.

However, in 1954, a move was started by members of the then
Constituent Assembly to table an amendment to the act, taking away
excessive powers of the governor-general. It was this move which
provoked the governor-general, Ghulam Mohammad, to dismiss the
Constituent Assembly in 1954, and thereby change the course of
Pakistans history.

Re: History is different from farce: Dr Mubarak

Excellent! A great article. I hate the current distorted version of history taught at our schools.

So according to above article, Quaid-e-Azam was dictator himself. He was an opportunist did not want demcratic Pakistan. Revealing regarding dream of Pakistan by Allama Iqbal is also thought provoking. Out come of such lies by past dictators and their chamchas resulted in failure of country in 1971 and the unfortunate present situation faced by the country. I always wondered how come the dreamer of Pakistan said:

"Saray Jehan se Acha Hindustan Hamara"

The removal of provincial governments of NWFP and Sind was supposed to be because they were hostile to the central government. However, these were democratically elected governments so removing them was an undemocratic step by Quaid. The trend of removing democratically elected governments by central governments governer generals/President has continued since. His insistense on forcing Urdu upon the Bengali population despite their opposition to it was another undemocratic step.

Re: History is different from farce: Dr Mubarak

Nice thread and eye opening information.
Not that i didnt know most of it already but i am surprised that biased history is taught in pakistan.
I like that guy... i am a fan already. it is so rare to find man of his open minded mentality in our society.
Just FYI, in India they are reviewing the history which was mostly written british or their stooges. soon India might come up with a new history. thousands of school teachers are asked to go to smaller towns and do research and write papers. I hope they do a good job so we can be proud of the real stuf and ashamed of any wrong doing.

The myth of Syed Ahmad Shaheed’s Jehad as struggle of Indian muslims against British.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

The geographic focal point of the jihad of 1826 to 1831 on the northwest frontier of the subcontinent corresponds to the nerve centre of the current confrontation between Islamic radicals and the West. The jihad movement directed primarily against the Sikhs was transmuted in the course of the war into a conflict pitting Muslim against Muslim. This feature of intrafaith conflict in a jihad as armed struggle has not diminished its appeal for contemporary militants, who evidence many of the same failings that undermined Sayyid Ahmad’s high ideals. The martyrdom of those who fell at Balakot continues to weave its spell, making it imperative to investigate the myth in its making’.

The story goes like this. Sayyid Ahmad, convinced of his own semi-divinity and admired by a large number of followers for his exact adherence to Islam, marched from Rai Bareilly in Central India in 1826 in the direction of the north-western city of Peshawar with a an ‘army’ of 600 local Muslims optimistically posing as warriors. The aim was to establish an Islamic state on the land of the Pashtun. As he meandered through the various regions of India and Afghanistan, he was greeted by Muslim rulers not very keen to support him in his jihad. But in Kandahar, 200 Pashtun warriors joined him, clearly in expectation of the loot which jihad in their view brought in its wake. Some Yusufzai tribesmen, irritated by Sikh rule, also joined his lashkar.

If he thought he was walking into a ‘people’ of uniform views, he was mistaken. The Durrani Pashtun of Peshawar were not particularly enthusiastic about his movement. Scared of the internecine Pashtun warfare, they had become allies of the Sikhs and paid tribute to them.

In the first engagement with the Sikh army near Peshawar Sayyid Ahmad suffered a defeat because his soldiers took to looting after the first attack and thereby allowed the Sikhs to regroup and attack again. The next battle at Hazro met with the same fate: the Pashtun warriors took to looting before the battle was won and failed to gain decisive edge later on. The warriors fought over the spoils of war and the various groups carried off what they thought was their share, no one listening to the Sayyid.

The lure of loot attracted 80,000 more local warriors to his lashkar which now became an army. At the battle of Shaidu, the warriors of Islam outnumbered the army of Budh Singh, the general who represented the suzerain Maharaja of Lahore, Ranjit Singh. This time a part of the Islamic army refused to fight, and the Durranis actually poisoned the Sayyid fearing his growing spiritual power, and let him be defeated as their imam. Weakened by poisoning, he nevertheless sought solace in marrying an Ismaili girl as his third wife.

As author Jalal points out, the parallels are shockingly close. Sayyid Ahmad’s main objective was the expulsion of the British from India (p.70). Osama bin Laden’s foray into Pakistan is also a phase in his jihad against America. Sayyid Ahmad was under pressure from the puritans of the faith from India to first wage war against the ‘Muslim infidels’ and for this he had to enforce sharia on the Pashtun population of Hazara which was under his military control:

‘The scope of the laws was broadly defined to include the compulsory enforcement of Islamic injunctions relating to prayers and fasting, as well as a ban on usury, polygamy, consumption of wine, distribution of a deceased man’s wife and children among his brothers, and involvement in family feuds. Anyone transgressing the sharia after swearing allegiance to Sayyid Ahmad was to be treated as a sinner and a rebel. Any breach was punishable by death, and Muslims were prohibited from saying prayers at the funerals of such people. Two weeks later, after another meeting of tribesmen, Sayyid Ahmad began appointing judges in different parts of the frontier…the moves infringed on the temporal powers of the tribal chiefs and seriously undermined the prerogatives of local religious leaders (p.94)’.

The three conditions that Sayyid Ahmad and the Taliban fill are: fighting enemy number one (the British, the Americans) through a secondary enemy (the Sikhs, Pakistan); mixing local Islam with hardline Arab Islam; and using the tribal order as matrix of Islam. The Taliban derive their radical Islam from the Wahhabi severity of the money-distributing Arabs; the mujahideen of Sayyid Ahmad derived their puritanism from Shah Waliullah’s ‘contact’ with the Arabs in Hijaz in 1730.

In the battle of Balakot, Sikh commander Sher Singh finally overwhelmed Sayyid Ahmad after he was informed about his hideout by his Pashtun allies. Ahmad fought bravely but was soon cut down. To prevent a tomb from being erected on his corpse, the Sikhs cut him to pieces but ‘an old woman found the Sayyid’s severed head which was later buried in the place considered to be his tomb’ (p.105).

Author Jalal notes that in the battlefield of Balakot, where Sayyid Ahmad of Rai Bareilly was martyred in 1831, another kind of ‘cross-border’ deniable jihad is being carried out by other mujahideen. She writes: ‘To this day Balakot where the Sayyid lies buried is a spot that has been greatly revered, not only by militants in contemporary Pakistan, some of whom have set up training camps near Balakot, but also by anti-colonial nationalists who interpreted the movement as a prelude to a jihad against the British in India’ (p.61).

Not far from Balakot, the votaries of the Sayyid are fighting on the side of Al Qaeda against ‘imperialist’ America and its client state, Pakistan, and killing more Muslims in the process than Americans, just as the Sayyid killed more Muslims than he killed Sikhs.

The myth of Jalaludeen Khwarzmi as a hero of muslims.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

*Those who glorify this man do not know that he is credited with the destruction of, among countless other places, Uch, Bhakkar, Pari Nagar and Bhambor, and the massacre of countless innocent souls in these flourishing cities

*Ghora Trup — the Horse’s Leap — is a natural ramp of limestone sticking out into the blue waters of the Sindhu River. It lies outside the evocatively named village of Sojhanda (Hundred Flags?) in the district of Attock.

And a right picturesque little spot it is too: rolling hills rising to the jagged crests of the Kala Chitta (Black and White) Range on the Punjab side and across the river, a flat plain stretching to a low ridge that culminates in the misty blue peak of Jalala Sar.

Locals have no recollection of whose horse’s leap is commemorated here. The self-styled keeper of lore may even tell you that it was Alexander, in whose days men were of giant stature, whose horse (also being of equal size) cleared the mighty river in a single leap. Or you will hear of the heroic nameless angrez who did it. No one remembers it was Jalaluddin, the fugitive king of Khwarazm in Central Asia, who was fleeing a disastrous confrontation with the ‘World Conqueror’ Chengez Khan.

It all began when Jalaluddin’s father Mohammad Khwarazm, thinking himself too powerful for the Mongols, threw every norm of civilised behaviour to the winds by spurning an overture of friendship by the Khan. A trading mission comprising four hundred and fifty merchants, most of them Muslims, was sent out to solicit friendship. On the orders of the self-assured Sultan and against all norms of diplomacy, the lot was ruthlessly cut down and the goods confiscated.

Chengez Khan sent out another embassy to seek redress for the outrage. But the Sultan, having lost sight of reality, humiliated the diplomatic status of the trio: one was beheaded and the remaining two were unceremoniously banished from Khwarazm with their heads and beards forcibly shaved in the ultimate oriental gesture of disgrace. And so it was that in due time the fair cities of Bokhara and Samarqand got to see the fury of the whirlwind that was the Mongol army under Chengez Khan.

Sultan Mohammad fled to eventually die homeless on an island in the Caspian where his son Jalaluddin was hard put to procure a shroud for the dead man. With the Mongols breathing down his neck, Jalaluddin sought refuge in Afghanistan. The juggernaut followed, and in a brief battle northwest of Kabul the Mongols got their only taste of defeat. But when Chengez himself came up with more troops, Jalaluddin flew across the Suleman Mountains to the banks of the Sindhu River right where the little village of Nizampur stands today, twenty-five kilometres south of Nowshehra.

The year was 1221 and it was a cold February morning when the Muslims of Khwarazm having failed to put the river between themselves and their pursuers made ready for battle with the frigid ice-blue waters of the Sindhu behind and the Mongol horde in front. Jalaluddin advanced on foot so that it would not be said his stand was not as brave as it was desperate. But by the afternoon when innumerable Khwarazmians had given up their lives in combat, Jalal knew that his day was lost.

Ata Malik Juvaini, the writer of Tarikh e Jahan Kusha (History of the World Conqueror, written circa 1255), tells us of Jalal breaking off from the fighting at one point to make his way to his camp. There he bid his family a tearful farewell and called for his favourite charger. Then, like a man possessed, he drove into the Mongol wing in one last mad show of defiance. It was a desperate attempt that made but a small dent in their line. Then, turning rein, he galloped for the riverbank. On the gallop he discarded his cuirass and without letting his horse break stride, forced it in full flight to leap into the eddies five or six metres below. Behind him, most of his army followed suit.

Chengez Khan was much impressed by this show of madness and restrained his archers from shooting the fleeing Sultan as he guided his horse across the water. But his followers were not so fortunate for history records that the Sindhu was reddened with blood as far as the Mongols’ arrows could reach. The Sultan made the east bank at the natural ramp that is to this day known as Ghora Trup. Then he rode upstream to a point directly opposite his camp where he waited for his dress and accoutrements to dry as he watched, in impotent rage, his camp being plundered and the humiliation of his family and dependents.

The Sultan made an attempt first to establish himself in the Salt Range and subsequently in lower Punjab. But his efforts were thwarted by the Mongols and Jalaluddin spent the remaining three years of his life running from his enemies until he was done in by a Kurd in Iraq. This murder, it must not remain unsaid, was committed on the behest of the Sultan’s own brother.

Juvaini tells us that when Jalaluddin threw his horse from the straight sided, five or six metre-high bank of the Sindhu into the water, the Khan called up his sons and commended the courage of the fleeing man. ‘Such a brave son is what a father should wish for,’ Chengez Khan is said to have told his sons.

Based on this one utterance, an Urdu novelist who has written a spate of spurious ‘historical novels’, lionises Jalaluddin Khwarazm. For those who have not read any real history, Jalaluddin who has nothing, least of all valour, to show for himself becomes a great Islamic hero. Those who glorify this man do not know that he is credited with the destruction of, among countless other places, Uch, Bhakkar, Pari Nagar and Bhambor, and the massacre of countless innocent souls in these flourishing cities. In spurious history it is not revealed that those who died at the fugitive Sultan’s hand were mostly Muslims.

In his haste to paint a craven general in glorious colours, the novelist exhibits a remarkable lack of integrity by not mentioning Jalaluddin’s shameless abandoning of his family to the Mongols. Nor too does he address the other advice Chengez Khan gave his sons: ‘A man’s greatest pleasure is to sleep with the women of a vanquished foe.’ Indeed, that is the fate the women of the Khwarazmian harem faced after they were abandoned by the poltroon who the ignorant celebrate as a hero.

There is a fundamental difference between Syyid Ahmand's army and Taliban. Taliban was artificially created to fight with Russians. Billions of dollars pumped in to this war with stimulating and exploiting the religion. The creaters are more responsible for this sad situation than Taliban. It is like creating a devil and then destroy it along with other local innocent population who are basically poor Muslims.

I don't know what was the motivating force for Sayyid Ahmad to build this army and use against his own people. It does not make any sense.

Calm down guys. In every country there is a high school lollypop (mythical) history a bit sweetened, a bit nationalistic, and very wrong.

Then people grow up and start reading by themselves. Then they find out where are those lollypops hidden in the history books.

The younger the country, the more lollypops you would find. Thus India and Pakistan have a lot more lollypops compared to many older countries. Using this scale, Bangladesh is the youngest and that's why they have boat loads of lollypops.

Anyways this thread is about lollypops in Pak history. So here is a summary.

One of the sweetest and most colorful lollypop in Pak history is related to Islam. Even if the government and private organizations try to point out the fallacies in Islamic history, ordinary Pakistanis do not believe in any of those. And I am not talking about school kids. I am talking about 70+ years old educated Pakistanis who want to and force others to believe false Muslim history.

Lollypop regarding Tipu

Tipu Sultan was great general who got defeated due to a traitor courtesan.
Sirajuddolah was a great general who got defeated thanks to a traitor Muslim

Verses like the following highlight and force the continuation of lollypops.

Jaffar uz Bengal, Sadiq uz Dakkan
Nang e Milat nange din nang e watan

No objective analysis, no research, just blame it on two traitors and you are done. The reality was that British had superior tactics and a naval force. No one from Africa to India to China could stop the superior force and the enormous logistics. Tipu was just a local nawwab with limited resources. Ultimately the force with better resources won.

Mohammad Bid Qasim and Lollypop
Let's go back to Mohammad bin Qasim for a moment. He is a "Muslim Hero", and for Hindus he is a vilain a bit lower than Ghori.

What was the reality? Why did Qasim attack Deebal? It really depends if you are reading Indian offical history or Pakistani official history.

Indians off course will term every Muslim invader as scum-bag Taliban.
Whereas Pakistanis would treat him as the guy who brought light to the dark brown continent.

The reality is simple if you look at at in modern tussle of controlling waterways around the world. If Iran tries to block shipping in Gulf, the whole Western armada will pounce upon Iran.

The same thing happened with Dahir. He tried to block Hujjaj's shipping. The result was obvious. Hujjaj sent 2 military campaigns that were defeated by Dahir. The third time was a charm when Qasim attacked Deebal and conquered Sindh.

Now the biggest Lollypop in the history of the subcontinent

*Indians and Pakistanis fought for their freedom from British *

Funny that after that "freedom fight" was over, India had the same British Viceroy become Governor General.

Similarly Pakistan after that "freedom fight" had General Gracey the British become Commander of Pak Army.

The reality is that Indians and Pakistanis fought "with" each other and thus messed up badly. British were trying to handover the control since the WW I (or even before that time according to some historians)

How many of you Indians and Pakistanis know that Gandhi Ji was "official recruiter" for the British Army? None! hahahah! Shocking isn' it?

So guys Lollypops are everywhere. If you want to keep on sucking on them, that's your call!

Interesting view point. Cannot agree or disagree without more research on my part but still very interesting.

Do you have any proof for that? or it is just your way of lollypopping here.:)

What kind of proof are you looking for bro?

Read the battle plan and other details of any war. You will see that in most cases a the side that is better supplied, equipped, and trained wins in the end.

For specific reference to Tipu vs. British battles, just take a large map of the world and do the following:

  • Circle the area where London is.
  • Circle the area where Mysore used to be
  • Then draw arrows linking the opposing armies to their home countries.
  • See which army had the strongest hand in logistic supply, training, and weapons.

You will then realize that Tipu was a poor local Nawwab who got pitted against a superior force equipped with modern ships, and an ability to get logistic support from across the globe.

Sure Tipu or his Dad won few battles. But the force with superior logistics and training won the war.

Not really. I can quote one battle, i.e. battle of Badar, when Muslims won against all odds. It is not only better equipped or trained army for the winning criteria, the spirit and just reason for the battle or any war also counts.

pakistan is not the only country where history is distorted. every government does that. when you study the american history in the united states, american imperialism is always given a benevolent face. nothing new about all this.

Re: History is different from farce: Dr Mubarak

Jinnah never went to jail during the independence struggle? That is shocking to me indeed.

The true history of Pakistan upto 1947 is not really distinct or different from India because there simply wasn't Pakistan before then. The 'concept' of Pakistan preceeded 1947 a few years but nit history for obvious reasons.

As the above posts have ably proven, the various authoritarian and dictatorial regimes have written a 'sutable' histiry that fit their respective agenda.

unfortunately now you have the entire population of Pakistan believing their history to be something else!

If you didnt even know what I bolded on top, you shouldnt be telling us what we should or do believe.

Re: History is different from farce: Dr Mubarak

i doubt some members posting here!
daal main kala hai kuch

why is that? I had thought he was part of the independence struggle. All high profile leaders of that period had been jailed by the British some time or other and Jinnah was certainly a high profile leader.

As to telling you or anyone else, I am only expressing my thoughts and opinions. Up to you to take it or not.

No offense

Good counter argument Sherdil. In fact this is yet another example of Islamic lollypop that solely focuses on Bahadur Muslims while completely ignoring some of the fundamental war fighting aspects.

Here is my view of the Ghazwas. Notice that I am going to use Makkah vs. Madina terms, so that emotions do not get in the way of an objective analysis. For a moment we'll also assume that there was no "Ghaibana power" either. Here is the purely war-fighting analysis that expands your argument. Hopefully you will like it.

Remember Badr was only Makkah Madina War (MMW)-I

--- Makkans under estimated and suffered defeat

It was followed by MMW-II or Ohud
--- Makkans were better prepared, and Muslims suffered badly while almost losing the battle.

Then there was MMW-III or Khandaq
--- This time Makkans came around with overwhelming force and there was no way in heck the Madenans would have faced them out in the open. That's why the plan to dig the ditch was put in place.

The biggest weakness of Makkans in all the three wars was that they could not protect their logistic lines. They were using camel back caravans to get the supplies. This type of supply line is always vulnerable to guerilla attacks by either the pro-Medina tribes, or simply the desert thugs looking for a quick loot.

Had the Makkans had access to alternative methods of resupply, they would have stayed longer and possibly defeated Madinans.

In every war out of the three MMW, Makkans were negotiating 300 km or so long logistical supply lines. If they had a quick war, Madinans were at a disadvantage. However if the war could be prolonged, poor logistics got in the way of Makkans.

Still, at the end of MMW-III (khandaq), Madinans were forced to sign a humiliating treaty called Hudabiya. Big name Madina leaders like Omar rah are on record protesting some of the main clauses of Hudaibya.

Thus Madinan strategy of less than perfect peace treaty, home defense, mixed with their opponent's weak logistic lines (and in some cases their power to disrupt Makkan's logistics) won.

Fast forward to the lollypop of Tipu, you can clearly see that Haider Ali (Tipu's father) and then Tipu won some battles initially. But the logistic supply lines of British were never disrupted in a significant way.

This allowed British to build up their force and finally defeat Tipu.

Had Tipu been a bigger leader than just being a local Nawwab, he would have been able to raise his own deep sea naval force. This was the only way to challenge the British supply lines and possibly defeating them.

Post Script
If you are interested, then study a bit of the history of European-European wars. Only then you will realize that Tipu was a light weight, who tried to challenge much bigger, well built opponent.