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^ Chankya was one of the most astute men of his age. Equivalent to the Indian Macheiaveli as he was intrumental in the Gupta Empires.
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^ Chankya was one of the most astute men of his age. Equivalent to the Indian Macheiaveli as he was intrumental in the Gupta Empires.
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Indeed he was a great figure, a strategist, economist, and social scientist blended in one, there is another person in Indian History named Mohammad Mehmud Gawan of Bahamani Kingdom under whose guidance Bahmani stayed and eventually defeated superior Vijaynagar empire in the Deccan region, I don't know if he is taught in Pakistan's History!
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^ Academically, Pakistan history revolves 80% on Mughal empire and 20% on Mehmud Ghaznavi, Abdali & Nadir Shah, etc. Mehmud Gawan is not taught here.
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In our Central Board of Secondry education
Class 6- Ancient India, from Harrappan to king Harshwardhan
Class7- Medival India, From Ghouri till Aurangzeb
Class8-Modern India, From later mughals till 1962 goa liberation
They taught us too much:D
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^ We are taught about Moen Jo Daro, Harrapa and Taxila in bits and pieces. There is no discussion on the personalities of sub continent before Arab conquest. No discussion on Ashoka even I don't remember reading about Buddha in school. Its not more than a selected study revolving around certain favorite personalities. My father told us that during their time, their text books said that Mr Jinnah was born in a small village 'Jhirk' near Thatta Sindh, but reaching our generation the birth place changed to Karachi.
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Harrappa gets two chapters, In mauryan Kingdom which has more than three chapter, one goes to ashoka, Jain and Buddhist philosophy in detail, All sultanates in class seven with one chapter each, Slave, Khiljis, Tughlaks, Syeds, Lodhis, and contemporary social movements and development, Mughals getting three chapters with Akbar as separate one. In eight it comes to Later mughals, British conquest,Ranjeet Singh, 1857 one chapter, followed by Gandhi, jinnah, muslim league, Partition of India another big chapter and eventually modern india and goa liberation.
Pakistan get introduced in class eight's geography as "Country of Canals":)
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We didn't have History as separate subject. It was always a part of Social Studies (certain chapters dedicated to history). We were taught about Muhabbad Bin Qasim in class 5, Ghaznavi in class 6, a lesson in Urdu on Razia Sultan (probably in class 7). Class 8th Social studies contain topics like Columbus, Ibn e Batuta, Ibn e Khaldoon. Class 9th Pakistan Studies covers Independence Movement, Muslim League - Congress Conflict, Nehru Report, Quaid e Azam's 14 points, Constitution of Pakistan, etc.
Muslim History till 4 Khulfa e Rashideen is taught in Islamiat. I remember, we read Karbala in class 5.
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And we had separate book on History,Geography,Economics and Civics, Class 9 history deals with Ancient world history from Contemporary civilization of Harrapa till the begining of imperialism, Judaism, Catholic and Orthodox chrurches, Islam and class 10 board history has rise of nationalism to world war 1, 2, Non align movement till dissolution of Soviets via Chinese communism and Vietnam war, and all this for just 35 marks of History in entire 100:hoonh:
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But we had to read four languages English, Arabic (class 6-8), Sindhi, Urdu Salees.]at a time, besides Science subjects ![]()
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We had three languages, Hindi, English and Sanskrit (5-9), Sanskrit was always simply mugging and writing, I even scored 100 in sanskrit even though I can not write one sentence on my own even today:D, State board had state languages, I studied in nine schools:D moving all parts of India. Science had three parts again, Physics, Chemistry, Biology.
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^ No Maths
how lucky, but I loved Maths more than biology due to daddoos (frogs) and their paintings. I just hated drawing daddoos ![]()
BTW what is the difference between Shah Mukhi & Gur Mukhi. I used to thought that Shah Mukhi means Arabic Alphabet and Gurmukhi is the Hindi script, unless I read yesterday in Khushwant Singh’s book ‘Ranjeet Singh’ that Gurmukhi was introduced by Sikhs. It means Hindi and Gurmukhi scripts are different ![]()
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Hindi, English, Maths, Social, Sanskrit, Science:). Mathematics started with numeral, algebra, binomials, continues till 10th convering everything of quantitative maths plus algebra and trigonometry.
Punjabi was initially a dialect without any script like Rajasthani, Haryanvi,Dogri etc, Guru Arjan Dev, fifth guru invented this script hence it is called Gurumukhi, from the mouth of Guru, Unlike A AA E EE of hindi, devnagri script, it starts with UU SAA DAA, even I can’t read Gurumukhi. Shahmukhi uses Persian Alphabets, like Alif, Beyt, tet etc to write the same thing. Even West Pakistan tried to persianize bengali script as well, another point of contention for Begalees of east Pakistan. Bengalis script is used to write Assamese and oriya language as well. Even Hindu Sindhis use either devnagri (Hindi script) or Gurumukhi for Sindhi language.
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Yes, its a problematic thing in Sindhi language that after partition Sindhi literature was written on both sides of the border, but due to this Gurmukhi / Devnagri and ShahMukhi scripts translation of scripts needed. I was just reading famous Sindhi writer Altaf Shaikh's travelogue on India, where he writes that Sindhis in India have mixed many Sanskriti words in their language and he had to face problems understanding Sindhi language spoken in India. On our side, Sindhis adopted many Arabic / Persian words and Sindhis from India feel difficulty to understand it.
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^ Thats absolutley correct with regards to the Ghurmuki script.
I must say the actual way history is taught in both nations is rather complex and hardly user friendly. I believe all nations should have a curriculum which allows the student to have more of a choice on what he/she wishes to study and as far as possible history and politics should be kept seperate its hardly suprising that in either country the political climate affects the education of the youth and hence the very future of relations between nations.
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In India, it is responsibility of National Council of Education Research and Training under Human Resource Development ministry, each book is written by a council with no less than 30 professors for central schools.Written in most secular way, even history of partition starts with three positive stories:), Our secondary education is the best, but we failed in Higher education:hoonh:. Syllabus is now revised every year:up:. After class 10, one can choose any stream, Science, Arts or commerce but before that all have to study same books
Sansritization of Hindi occurred in post independent India, Southern India didn’t accept Hindi but were always receptive to Sanskrit, slowly it got mixed in Sindhi and Punjabi as well. Though majority of Hindustanis still speak in Hindu-Urdu mix like language of Bollywood, student write in Sanskritized Hindi but genrally speak Hindustani only
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Masjid Mahabat Khan, Peshawer
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Maqbra e Anarkali - Lahore.
Anarkali is considered by many a fictional character.. Even Jehangir didn’t mention about her in his autobiography ‘Tuzk e Jahangeeri’
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Harappa, Mohenjo Daro. Essentially the Indus civilisation.
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**Historical places of Jaipur, Rajasthan. Jaipur is famously known as Pink city.
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