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@muqawwee123 But you have good habit of reading books bhai…
sometimes i am surprised that how do you manage your office, “FLOODING IN GS” posts related to poetry&history,then reading all these books…
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No! 
Balochi cap pehannay main kya haraj hay? I have one connection to Balochistan though wont disclose it at present.
There are many Baloch’s in Punjab too btw, infact outside Balochistan most Baloch’s reside in the areas forming Punjab now but most of them now speak Punjabi and Seraiki.
Baloch of Punjab - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
There are 2.5 million Baloch in Punjab, making Punjab home to the largest Baloch population (outside of Balochistan) in the world. In addition to that the main Punjabi tribe of Rajputs have a close genetic resemblance to Baloch, especially the Alpial clan living in Potohar region. Opposition leader Chawdhry Nisar Ali Khan is from Alpial Rajputs and one of the Alpial ancestors was Rai Baloch Khan. The belt between river Jhelum and Indus, north from Islamabad down to Muzzafargarh and Dera Ghazi Khan was formerly called as Rabalistan. If so than the Baloch hold a strategically important territory in Pakistan, surrounding the capital Islamabad, down from Potohari speaking regions to the Siraiki areas. The Baloch claim a mixed ancestry, asserting that they are descended, on the one hand, from Amir Hamza an uncle of the Prophet Mohammed and from a fairy (Pari), and on the other, from the Kurds living in the area of Aleppo, Syria from which they were expelled in A. D. 580 by the Sasanian Persian King Chosroes I Anoshervan. Their migration took them first to the area of Alborz Mountains and Qazvin to Kerman, then Sistan, and finally into Makran. In time, most of the territory of Makran has come to be known as Balochistan–“Land of the Baloch.” In the 13th century, some of the Baloch moved into Sindh (where they are known as the Sindhi Baloch) and also into Punjab. Many Baloch tribal warriors were hired by the sultans of Oman and other emirs in the Persian Gulf as their body guards and soldiers, carrying them as far off as east Africa. There a large number of these Baloch in the Arabian Peninsual now, where the family name “al-Balooshi” (The Balochi) is commonly the small emirates in the Persian Gulf—from Bahrain to Qatar, the UAE and Oman. There, they form a well-to-do class of people. These have, as of late, tried, for obvious reasons, to join the origins of the Baloch to the Arabs. Historically and linguistically, this is untenable if not impossible.
About the beginning of the 16th century the Balochis were driven out of the Kalat valley by the Brahuis and Turks. Yielding to pressure they moved eastward into the Sulaimans, drove out the Pathans, and settled along the banks of the Indus. Three Baloch adventurers Ismail Khan, Fatteh Khan, and Ghazi Khan, founded the three Dehras that bear their names, and established themselves as independent rulers of the Lower Derajat and Muzaffargarh, which they and their descendants held for nearly 300 years. The three brothers founded the settlements of Dera Ghazi Khan, Dera Ismail Khan and Darya Khan. Thence the southern Balochis gradually spread into the valleys of the Indus, Chenab, and Sutlej, and in 1555 a large body of Balochis, under their great leader Mir Chakar, accompanied the Emperor Humayun into India. It is probable that many of the Baloch settlements, in the Eastern districts of the Punjab, were founded by Humayun’s soldiers. Mir Chakar settled in Sahiwal and his tomb still exists at Satgarha, where he founded a military colony of Rinds.
Long before Mir Chakar’s time, Mir Jalal Khan was one of the Baloch historical rulers, and from his four sons— Rind, Lashar, Hot and Korai — spring the four main Baloch tribes. The Jatoi are the children of Jatoi, Jalal Khan’s daughter. These main sections are now divided into innumerable septs. Throughout the Punjab the term Baloch denotes any Muslim camel-man. The word has come to be associated with the care of camels, because the Baloch settlers of the Western plains have taken to the grazing and breeding of camels rather than to husbandry, and every Baloch is supposed to be a camelman and every camel-man to be a Baloch.
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kyonke the way ali posts baluch issue that those posts doesnt feel like posts of an aggrieved baluch instead they feel posts of an unbiased nationalist…Isi liye:hinna:
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Ab main kia kahoon 
why don’t you tell us about some historical places of Nagpur and other cities you visited. The thread is about sub-continent..
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yes i am keen to contribute something about my region but i ll take little time and check my facts....so that my posts should look ok.....:)
waise shivajis few descendents ruled over nagpur city....few km away from nagpur was kingdom of gond raja....:D
After that border of Nizam state started.....my nani and her family lived under rule of nizam till 1948........:D
@ali i heard name of dera gazi khan and dera ismail khan too many times but deraya khan first time...........
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Dera Ghazi Khan and Darya Khan (in Bhakkar) are located in Punjab and Dera Ismael Khan in KP.
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KP(khayber Pakhtunkhwa)…
when i memorized name of north west frontier province they changed it to khyber pakhtunkhwa:hayaa:
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Dera Ghazi Khan and Darya Khan (in Bhakkar) are located in Punjab and Dera Ismael Khan in KP.
Bhakkar reminds me Darashikoh.. Hazrat Aurangzeb (RA) ne Bhakkar tak Darashikoh ka peecha kia tha.
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hmmm, interesting…
this is the map of Punjab
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This is not related to the thread but i was seeing the pictures of kirthar, its quite stunning.
A unique world in the heart of Khirthar- Sindh | Multimedia | DAWN.COM
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Turbat is a city situated in the south of Balochistan province, Pakistan. The city is the managerial centre of Kech District and Turbat Tehsil, the city itself have one Union council. The city has a unique place in Baloch myths and writings; it is the home of Punnu, hero of the romance of Sassi Punnu. Much folklore has been written about this legend in all the local languages. One can still see the remnants of **Punnu’s fort **at Turbat.
It is assumed that Punnu fort could date back to 6000-8000 B.C.
More on Sassi Punnu & Archeological evidence of the story:
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Why did I miss this thread so far!
Well done OP!
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^ Welcome you can also contribute, its quite enriching to see all the historical sites in the areas forming Pakistan.
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there is a 50-50 chance...
but i don't believe in mythological superior race called aryan,it's just a sanskrit term for noble...
recent dna tests shows majority of indians have similar kind of genes,not like aryan-dravidian myth, but at same time i can say we don't belong to one particular group we are a mix of defferent groups and formed a complete new race.no one in india can be claimed to belong a one particular race
Mythological superiority was claimed by Hitler, Hindus never claimed racial superiority, Secondly Brahmins claim decendent of Rishis like Vasishth, Kaushik, Bhargav etc and this is called Gotra, Don't know if Aryan and Dravidians are same people, at least physical looks are different in most of the cases. The entire tribe of Jats is scythian, Jats weren't the part of first batch of Indo-Aryans coming to region, Jats came at the begining of Saka Era.
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Mythological superiority was claimed by Hitler, Hindus never claimed racial superiority, Secondly Brahmins claim decendent of Rishis like Vasishth, Kaushik, Bhargav etc and this is called Gotra, Don't know if Aryan and Dravidians are same people, at least physical looks are different in most of the cases. The entire tribe of Jats is scythian, Jats weren't the part of first batch of Indo-Aryans coming to region, Jats came at the begining of Saka Era.
lolz
dunno what to say...........
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lolz dunno what to say...........
babloos.. bol ke lab azad hain tere... hum huma tun gosh hain... :)
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babloos.. bol ke lab azad hain tere... hum huma tun gosh hain... :)
:)
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lolz dunno what to say...........
Ask any Vaishnav Brahmin from kashmiri pandits to Iyengars, they will tell you their gotra and will tell you they are descendent of certain Rishis:) Even Manipuri Brahmin will claim same gotra:D
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you win
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^ Goray rung ka zamana kabhi hoga na purana......
Hum kaale hain to kia dil wale hain :)