These people need to be nabbed and shown the right side of the story....
Gang raping women "with consent" in orgies is absolutely right which is a habitual happening here (in North America and Europe) and is an act of civilised nations.
While, one incidence of Gang rape in Pakistan disqualifies Pakistan from a living place and brings it to the list of the worst places on Earth (I have come to know from the media only 2 incidences in the last 6 years)
I’m not Valati, try again. Pakistan is a country where the VAST majority of people are poor. It’s easy for you to forget that, in your Defense kothi, with your naukars, your satellite dish and your constant trips to Cafe Zouk. The overwhelming population there is poor and VULNERABLE. Maybe if you join an NGO or volunteer with a charity (if you have fursat from chasing girls or playing on your computer), you’ll see how bad the situation is in your homeland. That’s what I do when I’m there, and that’s how I see the real situation. I don’t do anything to attract anyone–when you step in a mud, you’re bound to get dirty. When you’re in a sea of poverty, you’re bound to see poor people. How dare you insinuate that women victims are “bad people?” It is precisely this rotten attitude that prevents any progress from happening in this area.
Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and cannot say? Where we talking about the West here? Did I ever say the west is superior? No, so please stay on topic. Why is it that anytime someone makes a valid social observation about Pakistan, Pakistanis find is absolutely necessary to bring up irrelevant issues? Why is it SO HARD for you to admit there are social ills that need to be addressed and resolved? Denial doesn’t solve the problem, honey. If I say “There was an acid attack on a woman in Pakistan,” the response will undoubtedly be “The rape rate in America is so high, the women there strip for a living, blah blah blah…” Is it so hard to say “That’s unfortunate and something needs to be done to stop that.”
Please work on your reading comprehension. I’m sure English wasn’t your first language, but there is tutoring available for people like you. Did I ever accuse the women of anything? I actually defended them, saying that they are constantly being victimized at every turn of their life. They cannot even go shopping without being harrassed. I think it’s a shame that they can’t even go to school without fear of being violated. All these women are shareef. They’re covered and modest, and despite that, many men act like animals over there.
Once again, please reread what I wrote. I NEVER defamed desi women. I simply said that many men have made women’s lives hell by their constant “eve-teasing.” The whole world, your goverment, your people, and your media agrees this is a problem. And just what do you mean “women never projected themselves.” What are they doing that’s so wrong? Working because their husband’s don’t make enough? Getting an education? Buying food from the bazaar? All women should have the right to go about their daily life without being victimized. It’s not as if they’re going down a dark alley at 2 a.m. These women are simply riding the bus to college, getting vegetables for dinner, etc.
Stop looking at the matrimonial ads, and concentrate on the headlines.
What woman in Pakistan walks around immodestly? The whole point of eve-teasing is that they are harrassed even though they are very shareef, quiet, modest, and covered. I simply concurred with the original article, saying that these are some real-life experiences in my family. You have a lot of nerve insinuating that me or my family aren’t shareef, and I am 100% certain we are far more honorable than you–and our boys have far more respect and a solid mind as compared to you. What am I doing on the streets? How about shopping to pump your sorry economy? How about going to college? How about visiting naniami who lives in a different city? Not everyone owns three cars that they can loan you one. If you feel like sinning by making false accusations on innocent women, be my guest. Allah is watching you, and you know exactly what the punishment is for men who falsely accuse women.
I pick up the ones that have anything to do with women’s issues. She may be liberal to you, but beyond the pictures, they have well written articles about women’s issues. Instead of ogling the pictures, try reading the articles. Jang and Dawn have had several articles in the past about this, and those are very repsected newspapers in Pakistan. (If you are seriously interested, read Dawn’s weekly magazine, and read Jang’s You magazine for women.) You are constantly proving my point that you live in a bubble. Just because you haven’t experienced it, good for you. Just because no woman in your family has admitted to you that she’s experienced it, I’m sure they know how immature you are that you can’t handle the truth.
Are we talking about the US here? Once again, you are guilty of diverting attention from the topic at hand by throwing mud at a different country. Did I say the US is perfect? Never. Did I say it’s a role model? Never.
BTW, domestic violence is against the law in the US. A man could certainly get thrown in prison for that, unlike in Pakistan.
First of all, while I do not defend deviant sexual behavior, you need to know the difference between forced sex and consensual sex. If people willingly participate in an orgy, that is their decision and God will punish them for that. It is not gang rape is everyone is consenting. KEY WORD: CONSENT. It becomes rape when one party involved objects to it or is forced to do it.
I suggest you open up your own eyes and do something to bring forth a social change in the place you live. At least where I live, I can go down the street and shop without worrying if someone will pinch me in a private area, or I can go to college without having someone harass me. At least there is some semblance to the law here and there are many men who are afraid of breaking it. I’m traumatized when I read and see so many injustices in the “Islamic Republic of Pakistan.” The hypocrisy of that title makes me want to vomit, and when I see chauvinistic and myopic individuals as yourself, I can see clearly why Pakistan has made little progress and why it’s going to hell in a handbasket. While I do love the country and hold out hope for it, people like you are doing nothing for your homeland, and that makes me doubly appreciate those men and women there who are striving hard to bring about changes so that half the population does not have to suffer silently. Until then, continue to live your pathetic, sheltered little life, blame shareef women for being harassed (don’t blame the perpetrator, of course), and look down upon your destitute sisters who suffer far more than the rich witches you know do.
“It is little wonder that rape is one of the least-reported crimes. Perhaps it is the only crime in which the victim becomes the accused and, in reality, it is she who must prove her good reputation, her mental soundness, and her impeccable propriety.” This quote is attributed to Freda Adler (b. 1934), U.S. educator but it is true all over the world and not US alone.
It is difficult to get reliable figures but number of rapes in Pakistan is comparatively much lower than many countries. But the incidence of gang rapes and their ratio to total rapes appears to be the highest in the world excluding Africa. During the period 1998-2002 gang rapes came to almost 54% of total rapes.
Whereas it is probable that a large number of rape cases are not reported or not registered even if reported due to inefficiency and corruption in Police, it is not easy to hide gang rape which mostly occur in remote villages among poor and ignorant tribal people out of feuds and revenge. Moreover the real object of such heinous acts is inflicting public humiliation and often the consequences are not realized in the heat of anger. To the ordinary simple illiterate villagers in tribal areas, the chastity of their women is dearer than their own lives. And the wicked and perverted individuals among them think that worst kind of humiliation that can be inflicted upon their enemy is to outrage the modesty of his daughter, sister or wife or even mother right before his eyes.
