Hindustan != secular state

it is a hindu nation.

lets just look at what the indian people call india in their native language:

bharat → symbolizes hindu religion
hindustan → means lands of hindus

so India is not a secular state, its a hindu state and they should say this instead of the secular drama they keep on rolling.

We Indian's are trying to be a good secular country, despite the actions of a few fanatics.
The whole world acknowledges this, yet Pakistani's cannot accept this. why?

Is it a sense of shame, where in your own country you treat the minority religions as second class citizens; or is there envy - on India's religious mix.

Whatever it is - get over it.

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really these pissing contests are getting so old. they've got problems. we've got problems. let us worry about our problems. and I'm sure the Indians will worry about their problems.

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Since Pakistan is a good neighbour, we worry about our neighbors problems as well.

hahah!! jhooom, actually bharat is a sanskrit word. Bha means light and knowlegde and rat(a) means devoted. It does not symbolize any religion.

Hindustan. stan is actually a persian word meaning land, and Hindustan comes from the river Indus.

Get your facts straight before getting so emotional jhooom :smack:.

Waisey yeah, India is not as secular as it claims. But aap ko itna ghussa kyun aa raha hai aaj. So many anti Indian threads. Go watch a nice drama or something instead of worrying about issues that can never be resolved.

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I know the word hindu, and stan, and also bharat.

no matter what the origin. Hinduism is a religion.
Persians used to call people east of Indus as hindus, that is true.

But now hindustan doesnt mean land of Indus, Indus is in Pakistan.
It now means land of Hindus, and now Hindus doesnt mean people who live close to Indus, it means people of the hindu religion.

so infact Niksik you need to get your facts straight and dont be soo literal just to make an argument which doesnt make any sense.

and about bharat:

In the words of Shri Srinivasan Kalyanaraman, For those who think that the nation of Bharat is a British creation, they should be reminded about Rigveda verse by Vis’vamitra RV 3.53.12: vis’va_mitrasya raks.ati brahmedam bharatam janam, (this mantra of Vis’vamitra will protect the nation of the people of Bharatam). In Tamil bharatam (written pa_ratam) refers to the Hindu ra_s.t.ra. ”

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So bharat is a very much religious word.

bharat is derived from the ancient indian king known as bharat its a sanskrit world-india is secular to an extent but no country in the world is fully secular-hope we keep religion aside and talk abot humanity-

ok lets talk about humanity, why are you killing Kashmirs ?
Give them freedom.

how you are just openly lying

yes we r openly lying-hindus and buddhist came from some arab countries to settle in india-we r actually foreigners-thats wat u want to here-wake up we r here since the birth of civilization

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Although India is certainly a Hindu majority country, getting all picky about the name is really looking for something to fight about for no reason.

Anyway, Bharat predates the term Hindustan and therefore the use of it seeks to exclude Muslims and Christians etc, right? Well, maybe, maybe not. Semantics, schemantics.

I mean, just how pak is Pakistan?...

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the famous Indian new paper is "The Hindu", but the people who run the paper have leftist ideology,

'sorry sir for your disappointment'

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@aurchaepiyo

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Anyway, Bharat predates the term Hindustan and therefore the use of it seeks to exclude Muslims and Christians etc, right? Well, maybe, maybe not. Semantics, schemantics.
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No. Hindustan was a name given by the foreigners, while "Bharat" has its roots in Ancient Indian Civilization. Not everything needs to be seen through the prism of religion. Muslims in Turkey, Persia, Eygypt are proud of their per-Islamic heritage. I don't understand why Muslims of the Indian subcontinent reject theirs' .

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lol...jitna dimag hoga utni hi baat karega na. ok we are a hindu country. now what?

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Pakistanis act as " khisiyani billi khamba noche". It is a theocratic state. It bothers only about Sunnis. Shias and Ahmedias are massacred intermittantly. Pakhtoons are killed in karachi daily yet people worry abnout India. In India all live peacefully and our constitution guarantees it. Can you sauy same about Pakistan? Moreover being a Muslim I can say that our forefathers( of 99% muslims of this subcontinent) were Hindus. Go into history and find How many hindus did Mir Qasim convert with his sword. The entire area from Sindh to Kashmir was converted similarly. Now we feel proud to abuse our forefathers, their religion and customs.