Whats happening in this country?I sit due to illiteracy or widespread hatred against the minorities?
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_5-8-2002_pg7_5
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The ionternational community should intervene in this immediately.If the government can not support and protect its minorities,better they should admit it and seek for other ways.
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Not just minorities, every one is getting raped these days... Its endemic in the society.. No one takes it seriously... WE have to do somethin.
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Hinduism’s holy dharmasastra teaches that women are like whores and sluts by nature like the bimbo goddess Indrani ref.
RigVeda 10:86:6
“Good looks do not matter to them, nor do they care about youth; ‘A man!’ they say, and enjoy sex with him, whether he is good-looking or ugly. By running after men like whores, by their fickle minds, and by their naturallack of affection these women are unfaithful to their husbands even when they are zealously guarded here. Knowing that their very own nature is like this, as it was born at the creation by the Lord of Creatures (Prajapati), a man should make the utmost effort to guard them. The bed and the seat, jewellery, lust, anger, crookedness, a malicious nature, and bad conduct are what Manu assigned to women. There is no ritual with Vedic verses for women; this is a firmly established point of law. For women, who have no virile strength, and no Vedic verses, are falsehood; this is well established.”
Manusmrti 9:14-18.
How can women be guarded in the light of such verses from the Law book of Hinduism 
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I bet any minute now some Hindutva curry muncher will come and deny that the Reg Veda is an essential text in Hinduism..
With a hogwash cult like Hinduism they freely pick and choose whatever is convenient..
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In another incident, Padma Bibi of Kagia village in Tharparker was also gang raped by men from an upper caste. SCFP leaders Surendra Valasai and Bherulal Balani and others told newsmen that no government functionary had contacted the victim’s relatives because they belonged to the lowest caste
in society.
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it seems like the culprits are the upper caste hindus themselves and the issue has nothing to do with muslim majority
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Ya, it’s a pity that international community does not read the Daily Times.
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Noop, they won’t because unfortunately 95% of the Hindus have not read their holy books. They cannot talk about what I post from their books. They aren’t even sure if these quotations are right or not…Yeah, they can atack me, they can ignore what I say, but they cannot talk about anything from their holy books…
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Excellent interpretations 
Hats off to u… 
Manau has said this…
Pitha Rakshathi Koumare
Bhartha Rakshathi youvane
Puthra Rakshathi vardhakye
Na sthree swathanthramarhathi…
It means only this,that's a woman should be protected all the time starting from her childhood or adolosence her father,in her youth her husband,in her old age her son ........The thinng is,hinduism is areligion (it can better be called a life style)that grants all types of flexibilities to everybody including its bashers.There was even a movement in Tamil nadu burning the manuscripts of ``manusmruthi' under the leadership of a leader called Annadurai and E.V Ramaswami Naikkar in the late 1950's but eventually people understood its importance and the movement found its own hell in the form of silence.:D
better understand the fact that hinduism is a religion that grants all rights to women,that frees women from all manacles and it even has hgindu godesses.I
If you are tilting to some lines taken from Rigveta or whatever it is,without even knowing their exact meanings,there can be hundreds of thousands of examples from the same books uplifting women.
By the way,what do u feel abt Quran treating women? :D(I Am asking you this question in the wake of hindu women being attacked in pakistan,since Pakistan operates under islamic law,and not under hindu laws).
How can women be guarded in the light of such verses from the Law book of Hinduism
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Does that mean hindu women in Pkaistan should be given a seperate law?something called Pakistani Hindu-Women’s law?
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Not only daily times,they do not even access GUPSHUP…
I think,they are rather watching C.N.N..
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Its Pakistan you are talking about, not India where you see widespread hatred against minorities.
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Ofcourse,I am talking about Pakistan only
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Nice attempt, here is what you are saying from Manusamriti… But it carries a different meaning dude…
“A girl, a young woman, or even an old woman should not do anything independently, even in (her own) house. In childhood a woman should be under her father’s control, in youth under her husband’s, and when her husband is dead, under her sons’. She should not have independence. A woman should not try to separate herself from her father, her husband, or her sons, for her separation from them would make both (her own and her husband’s) families contemptible. She should always be cheerful, and clever at household affairs; she should keep her utensils well-polished and not have too free a hand in spending. When her father, or her brother with her father’s permission, gives her to someone, she should obey that man while he is alive and not violate her vow to him when he is dead. Benedictory verses are recited and a sacrifice to the Lord of Creatures (Prajapati) is performed at weddings to make them auspicious, but it is the act of giving away (the bride) that makes (the groom) her master. A husband who performs always makes his woman happy, both when she is in her fertile season and when she is not, both here on earth and in the world beyond. A virtuous wife should constantly serve her husband like a god, even if he behaves badly, freely indulges his lust, and is devoid of any good qualities. Apart (from their husbands), women cannot sacrifice or undertake a vow or fast; it is because a wife obeys her husband that she is exalted in heaven. A virtuous wife should never do anything displeasing to the husband who took her hand in marriage, when he is alive or dead, if she longs for her husband’s world (after death). When her husband is dead she may fast as much as she likes, (living) on auspicious flowers, roots, and fruits, but she should not even mention the name of another man. She should be long-suffering until death, self-restrained, and chaste, striving (to fulfill) the unsurpassed duty of women who have one husband. Many thousands of Brahmins who were chaste from their youth have gone to heaven without begetting offspring to continue the family. A virtuous wife who remains chaste when her husband has died goes to heaven just like those chaste men, even if she has no sons. But a woman who violates her (vow to her dead) husband because she is greedy for progeny is the object of reproach here on earth and loses the world beyond. No (legal) progeny are begotten here by another man or in another man’s wife; nor is a second husband ever prescribed for virtuous women. **A woman who abandons her own inferior (caste birth) husband and lives with a superior (caste birth) man becomes an object of reproach in this world; she is said to be ‘previously had by another man’. A woman who is unfaithful to her husband is an object of reproach in this world; (then) she is reborn in the womb of a jackal and is tormented by the diseases born of her evil.” **
Manusmrti 5:147-164.
Wow,
You were trying to write something from manusamriti and also at the same time trying to contradict it. This is the sample of how the woemn are treated in Hinduism… Want more, I’ll post more soon. And talk about Hinduism only don’t drag the topic of Pakistan.
If you say women are uplifted in Hinduism, okay, I ask you to post some good verses to show this claim. I’ll post what I know
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Read this for your understanding dude.
"Now the duties of a woman (are as follows): To live in harmony with her husband; To show reverence (by embracing their feet and such-like attentions) to her mother-in-law, father-in-law, to Gurus (such as elders), to divinities, and to guests; To keep household articles (such as the winnowing basket and the rest) in good array; To maintain saving habits; To be careful with her (pestle and mortar and other) domestic utensils; Not to practice incantations with roots (or other kinds of witchcraft); To observe auspicious customs; Not to decorate herself with ornaments (or to partake of amusements) while her husband is absent from home; Not to resort to the houses of strangers (during the absence of her husband); Not to stand near the doorway or by the windows (of her house); Not to act by herself in any matter; To remain subject, in her infancy, to her father; in her youth, to her husband; and in her old age, to her sons. After the death of her husband, to preserve her chastity, or to ascend the pile (funeral pyre) after him. No sacrifice, no vow, and no fasting is allowed to women apart from their husbands; to pay obedience to her lord is the only means for a woman to obtain bliss in heaven. A woman who keeps a fast or performs a vow (apart from her master) in the lifetime of her lord, deprives her husband of his life, and will go to hell. A good wife, who perseveres in a chaste life after the death of her lord, will go to heaven like (perpetual) students, even though she has no son."
Visnusmrti 25:1-17.
Wooh
So many things going on at the same time. I guess you’d have enough now
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Abey, it seems teri aqal ghaas khaney chali gaee hai
What is the answer of the Gujrat massacar? And rape of hundreds of Muslims women? You don;t have a mouth to speak bout one single incident. Here in Pakistan.
What is the answer to the Rape of Muslim women in Kashmir??? that has been happeneing since last 50 years…
Tum to khood hi Gundey ho, tum kisi aur ko kuch kiyoon kaho.
What a funny topic? You swallow elephants and when it comes to Pakistan, you cannot swallow a mosquito… wow
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Lahore,
You are reading between the lines. Manusmriti is a set of laws which are very written 2000 years ago. It is similar to Quran. The thing is It is never claimed to be the only ultimate reference book for Hindus. Many muslims keep on searching a “Hindu quran” Which does not exist. Manu’s work was path breaking comparing the situations at that point of time. It brought some order to the society. His laws are strict and they were as per the needs of the time. This is similar to the many laws that Quran has. The Quran laws were framed for Arabs 1400 years ago, suitable for that geographical location at that point of time. Prophet’s revelations brought much order to the otherwise barbaric and sadistic Arabic society.
Also, if you read the rules for men in Manusmriti, you will find that they did not have a rosy time either…
6.21 He may subsist on flowers, roots, and fruit alone, which have been ripened by time and have fallen spontaneously, following the rule of the vikhanas.
6.22 Let him either roll about on the ground, or stand during the day on tiptoe, let him alternately stand and sit down; going at the savanas to water in the forest.
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^ No, these laws of manu are not similar to Quran, to the least. I am not comparing Quran with Manusamriti. If I were, I'd have quoted Quran as opposed to Manusamrit too. And in that case, it would have been clear to you that they are compeltely different.
Second, I don't expect any "Hindu Quran" anywhere. Neither the discussion is on Quran. I simply tried to prove my point with these "samples" from Manusamriti. I understand there are many more books in Hinduism which are rather conflicting. Topic is women, not men. And I would appreciate if you can elaborate on what I quoted rather than comparing it to Quran or Islam or creating a topic for men in parallel.
I don't understand the thinking of Indians. They think that everything in their religon is ALSO same as that of Islam......... O Helloooooooooo ????????