Hindus, Muslims embrace

Local Hindus, Muslims embrace
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By Mark I. Pinsky | Sentinel Staff Writer
Posted November 16, 2001

Every day, Hindus and Muslims pass each other in the aisles of the Bombay Bazaar grocery store on South Orange Blossom Trail, nodding to one another as they shop for the familiar foods, spices and sweets of their homelands.

They eat at nearby tables at Memories of India restaurant on Turkey Lake Road, which is Hindu-owned, and Indian Delights on State Road 434 in Longwood, which is Muslim-owned. They buy CDs and rent videos from more than a dozen Indian music and film stores across Central Florida.

Even as strangers, these Hindus and Muslims recognize one another as sojourners, newcomers and freshly minted American citizens, all from the same part of the world and all trying to make their way in this country in trying times.

This year, by a coincidence of the calendar, major religious observations of Islam and Hinduism – each with about 1 billion adherents worldwide – occur almost simultaneously. Islam’s monthlong Ramadan fast and Hinduism’s joyous Diwali festival take place this week. Diwali began Wednesday, but many Central Florida Hindus will celebrate this weekend.

Yet in several countries and over several centuries, Muslims and Hindus have been traditional enemies. The Hindu majority in India chafed under the rule of Muslim Mogul emperors for more than 400 years.

The British partition of India and Pakistan in 1947 ignited horrific communal violence and uprooted hundreds of thousands of people, as Muslims living in India moved to Pakistan and Hindus left Pakistan. That population transfer bolstered the Muslim majority in Pakistan, which also borders the predominantly Muslim country of Afghanistan.

But Central Florida Hindus and Muslims say they interact easily here, to the point of partnerships in medical practices and business ventures. Many of the area’s estimated 30,000 Muslims and 4,000 Hindus originally come from nations of the Indian subcontinent. Hindus and Muslims from the region are similar in appearance and often grow up speaking the same languages, including Urdu and Marathi.

“We are basically the same ethnic group,” said Dr. Mohan Saoji of Casselberry, a leader of the Central Florida Hindu community. “We are closer here than we would be there.”

Governments in their homelands of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka remain in conflict.

India and Pakistan have fought a series of conventional border wars, and a protracted guerrilla struggle in the state of Jammu and Kashmir continues today. In the months before Sept. 11, the Taliban regime in Afghanistan ordered all Hindus living in the capital of Kabul to wear yellow identifying badges, which many said recalled the yellow stars the Nazis required Jews to wear in Europe.

Opportunity to reach out

While still facing each other across battle lines half a world away, members of the two faiths locally say they are now making common pleas for understanding from their Christian and Jewish neighbors in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Despite the tragedy, community leaders say, the days and weeks following have provided an opportunity to reach out to one another.

“We tried to support them [local Muslims],” said Dr. Aravind Pillai of Sanford, chairman of the Hindu Society of Central Florida. “We knew they had the same anxiety.”

Muslims appreciated that effort.

“They were concerned about us,” said Nayyar Ansari, an Orlando businessman originally from Pakistan and a member of the Islamic Society of Orlando. “They keep calling and asking about us.”

After planning several interfaith gatherings that included Muslims and Hindus, the Rev. Fred Morris, executive director of the Florida Council of Churches, observed that, “If we could do this on a world level, we would have world peace in a week.”

And this outreach appears to extend beyond Central Florida.

“I have called my Muslim friends,” said Sangeeta Kshettry, of Austin, Texas, vice president of Sulekha.com (http://www.sulekha.com](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-asecramadiwali16111601nov16.story?coll=o) ), an Indian community Web site. “I definitely reach out to them. Any reasonable, rational person would have done that. Culturally, there are so many similarities.”

Calls for tolerance

Since the Sept. 11 attacks, members of the two communities have found themselves facing similar challenges. As darker-skinned immigrants, and children of immigrants, they say they have endured antagonism and that they fear worse incidents of hostility in the future. The Muslim and the Hindu communities have held their own memorial services and made significant contributions to relief funds for the victims.

Leaders of each community have joined interfaith meetings called to voice unity and tolerance. At one such gathering in an Altamonte Springs hotel, Pillai and other Hindu leaders sought out a Muslim imam to personally offer their encouragement.

“We had a good talk,” Pillai said. "I said, ‘We should do this more often. We should get together.’ "

Many of those who attended were encouraged by the contacts between people of various faiths.

Morris, who helped plan the Altamonte gathering, is organizing a similar meeting for early next year, called the Interfaith Call to Prayer for Peace and Harmony.

“It is very exciting to be working closely with leaders of the Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Christian and other faiths,” he said. “Some of these groups have had a murderous relation of hatred for many, many years. But here we are working together in a spirit of love and harmony, seeking to proclaim to the whole community that we are united in our common love of God and of each other as members of the human family.”

While acknowledging that some of the old mistrust and prejudice may remain behind closed doors, members of Muslim and Hindu congregations say their basically good relations predate Sept. 11.

Common interests

Imam Tariq Rasheed, leader of the Islamic Center of Orlando, grew up in Lucknow, India, where his school friends and neighbors were Hindus. Some of those social relationships with Hindus continue today, based on common interests.

“Most of my friends are younger Hindu guys who are in computer fields,” Rasheed said.

A. Ghani Kasu another Orlando businessman and member of the mosque, who was born in Bombay, said he has more Hindu friends in the area than Muslims. He blamed problems between the two faiths elsewhere in the world on “ignorance and prejudice.”

Mark Pinsky can be reached at [email protected] or at 407-420-5589.

[This message has been edited by durango (edited November 16, 2001).]

what is this crap? hindus and muslims abroad go perfectly well together. despite a few heated arguments on kashmir over a biryaani or like, there is no great problem. even in india, calling them ttraditional enemies is far from true. there are problems between india and pak, but pak does not represent islam as a whole, and muslim nations have problems within themselves.

.. despite some born idiots in both religions who hate .. I think they go well..I have closest hindu friends here ...

Ramadan is not a festival.

Most Indian Muslims are half hindu in their traditions and rituals.

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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
**Ramadan is not a festival.

Most Indian Muslims are half hindu in their traditions and rituals.**
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My dear friend,
You must think before making such gross generalizations. May Allah grant you wisdom to see what you are seeing.

Ramadan is not a festival.

Most Indian Muslims are half hindu in their traditions and rituals.

That's what West Pakistanis said about the Bengalis. Bengali Muslims are half Hindu speak a Hindu language Bengali derived from Sanskrit, wear a Hindu dress Saree, celebrate a Hindu new year (Bengali New Year) according to Hindu calendar

So they treated them so badly that 3.6 million Bengalis were killed and Bangladesh emerged on the world map.

[This message has been edited by mohabbat (edited November 16, 2001).]

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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
**Ramadan is not a festival.

Most Indian Muslims are half hindu in their traditions and rituals.**
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pakistani abroad your knowledge about indian muslims is pathetic
get a crash course on indian muslims they are as good muslims as pakistanis if not better

Kabir,

Your as bad as PakiAbroad.

All people are equal, muslim or non muslim. We are all from God.

ZZ I agree, I have many Hindu friends and you may have read my post from a while back in which I was sharing my expereinces of hindus surprising muslim students with iftaar or helping with an Eid Feast, or muslims helping them for Diwali, setting up decorations etc etc.

Key words

Most and half

would it ease your 'pain' if I said Most Pakistani Muslims are guilty of the same?

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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
**Key words

Most and half

would it ease your 'pain' if I said Most Pakistani Muslims are guilty of the same?**
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Yes, my dear friend, Most **and **half are key words. This is not a nationalism issue, it is more about making generalizations. No human including yourself is omniscient. You are not acquainted with the people you are passing judgement on.

May Allah (swt) grant us all wisdom to see the correct path and not make such gross generalizations and pass judgements on others.

[This message has been edited by Yasmine (edited November 18, 2001).]

Yes yes, Afghans are the only true Muslims.

Afghans are True Muslims.

In fact Pakistanis are killing Afghans because they are not pure enough
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/special/terror/front/1137409

“They are killing each other. The Arabs and Pakistanis have decided that the Afghans are not pure enough for them, and so they are killing them.”

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Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad:
**Key words

Most and half

would it ease your 'pain' if I said Most Pakistani Muslims are guilty of the same?**
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its a cultural legacy and we cannot get away from it .we are not descendants of arabs or turks our ancesters may and in most cases were hindus so some influence is bound to be

I dont know what the big deal is about whether or not one has arab, turkish or persian blood, after all those guys converted ..or reverted at some point or another anyways.

I dont understand either side, why someone would need to prove that he/she has that background, and why someone would try to prove that this person does not.

In Islam one does not have a higher standing due to race anyways. People have incorporated this stuff due to the caste system. forget ethnic background, the whole deal with Jatt, Gujjar, randhawa, Syed, zaat paat is all so lame.

Kabir, u’re absolutely right. Traditional practices are a cultural legacy, not in any way tied to Hinduism. Stupid cultural practices like caste/zatt, dowry, and burning of the bride are purely cutural not in any way tied to Hinduism. If u believe, they are a part of hinduism now, doesn’t mean that it is part of the real religion, Keep in mind that like most religions Hinduism has been changed over the centuries. No religion advocates injustice.

OMG Kabir,

http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/eek.gif

Arabs and Turks are no saints either. The Arab culture inherantly has many flaws which were addressed by Islam. So if people continue their Arab culture disregarding Islamic teachings, they will be guilty of commiting many heinous deeds as well. Part of that culture that Islam opposes is the burying of female infants, & “Honor” killings.

Being a good person has more to do with the choices you make than the silly things like cultural heritage, color of one’s skin, or the amount of wealth accumulated in this world.