wat is re-incarnation?
wat is the purpose behind re-incarnation?
where is the idea and notion of re-incarnation originate from?
Thanx in advance 
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:)
Re birth.
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...which means same person will born again? like 9 lives of cats...same thing with human?
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I dont know whether cats are hindus or Muslims !
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Nice question, Evilmastermind, now if u have read my other posts, u will see that I am no scholar in the scriptures, Hinduism and Islam have opposite views to this,
Of course, there are examples of ppl claiming they remember thier past lives, there was a very widely publicised story of a Sri Lankan Soldier some yrs ago, and Ofcourse the Dalai Lama is the re-incarnation of his predecessors as shown in a documetary of Nat Geo channel
Truth is no one can confirm if we stay wid god or return, as no one speaks from beyond the grave...(unless of course u are of the side that claims only Islam gives the truth)
I have asked this question myself... according to my logic, or stupidity, I see the logic as
Everything on earth and nature is cyclic, the seasons, day and night, orbits of planets,the big bang and collapse of the universe: every thing
so even life and death should be cyclic so rebirth is only natural
May sound dumb, but thats how I feel, not b coz scriptures say so
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I actually took soo many courses on hinduism, it was interesting indeed.
Imagine a BIG BLOCK OF STYROFOAM. Nothing exists, but that block of Styrofoam.
Now, the universe exists as the styrofoam. So every lil atom of the styrofoam block is something, a cow, a house, a leaf etc.
So basically, There is ONE matter (the styrofoam block) and everything that exists is made up of that STYROFOAM inside that block.
so when you die, you become styrofoam again, and then get created again, its a cycle.
This all happens within that styrofoam block. Everything is styrofoam block :)
I can explain it to u in person or somewhere else :p thats all I have to say rite now.
Oh they have a name for the styrofoam block, its called Brahmin.
Everything is Brahmin. Made from ONE thing.
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^ There is THE STRONGEST philosophical concept Islam has given that really wrecks the so called concept of "Styrofoam" theory.
This styrofoam block exists because God exists and it cannot exist without the "existance" of God......
That everything is God, is an extreemly week and impractical concept as opposed.
If we have a fire tied to the end of a stick and revolve it in circular motion, it becomes a circle (Your styrofoam). But the circle is not fire in itself (Like this universe). It is just an expression of fire in a particular manner and the circle exists (This universe) because the fire exixts. So ...
The universe exists because God exists. God has NOT transformed into universe (Styrofoam).......
How about that? This is called the concept of "Wahdat Ushahood" as opposed to the concept of "wahdat ul Wajood" and is probably given by Shah Wali Ullah (If I am not wrong)
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Rebirth in case of hinduism is based on the concept that the spirits (rooh) of a man or woman keeps wandering over the land .it does not get rest when the body is burned . especially if that person has undergone some presseure in life . so it tries to re live by being reborn in a new soul .
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Nope nothing like lost souls wandering or trying to relive.. etc.
I am no scholar of religion but I will give you the layman's version of Hindu reincarnation.
In Hinduism there is no concept of hell or heaven as in Islam.
We do both good deeds and bad. the sum total of that is our KARMA.
Our next birth will be determined by the sum total of our KARMA. Depending on the our Karma (positive or negative or degree of it) we come back reborn at a some level of organization and intelligence... perhaps a plant or an ant or an amoeba, or some animal (levels of organization are recognised from one cell to a complex animal including humans). This cycle continues forever. If we have seen the light.. the truth... whatever it is... we attain nirvana and escape this cycle. Buddhists say that Gautama Buddha attained Nirvana, Jains say Mahavir attained Nirvana... etc.
We are all made of the same matter as the stars and everything in the universe. Therefore God is in us and we ourselves determine what we come back as. This places a lot of responisibility on the individual. The idea of reincarnation in Hinduism is a reminder to us to be good always.
This is very different from the teachings of islam and I do not expect all muslims to comprehend Hindu philosophy. Thats cool.
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We are all made of the same matter as the stars and everything in the universe. Therefore God is in us and **we ourselves determine what we come back as. **This places a lot of responisibility on the individual. The idea of reincarnation in Hinduism is a reminder to us to be good always.
This is very different from the teachings of islam and I do not expect all muslims to comprehend Hindu philosophy. Thats cool.
thankyou soo much everyone for tryin to answer the question. I am gettin the hang of it :)
So, Mograkali you can come back as watever you want? once u come back will u be able to remember urself from previous life? If no then wat is the evidence out there that proves that u r coming back?
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That everything is God, is an extreemly week and impractical concept as opposed.
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Here you are comparing apples to oranges. We have all agreed that Islam and Hinduism have different philosophies.
In Hinduism, god is in us. In Islam it is different. So how can you even compare? What purpose does it serve? People will belive in the philosophy that touches thier heart. That's it. Belittleing anyone's else's belief just shows the ignorance and lack of wisdom of the belittlerer.
I have seen Lahore do this over and over ... try to be provocative, to copy and paste from all kinds of websites out of context, to ask inane questions but not to seek the answers or ruminate over them in any mature way. There comes a time when it even ceases to be provocation, it is just viewed as immaturity and downright lack of intelligence.
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Truth is no one can confirm if we stay wid god or return, as no one speaks from beyond the grave...(unless of course u are of the side that claims only Islam gives the truth)
I have asked this question myself... according to my logic, or stupidity, I see the logic as
** Everything on earth and nature is cyclic, the seasons, day and night, orbits of planets,the big bang and collapse of the universe: every thing so even life and death should be cyclic so rebirth is only natural**
May sound dumb, but thats how I feel, not b coz scriptures say so
good way to put it this way..it make more sense..but plz dont mind if I ask that the level of greatness of human being is equal to everything around? you don't consider human being as better creature than other stuff on this universe?
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** In Hinduism, god is in us.** In Islam it is different. So how can you even compare? What purpose does it serve? People will belive in the philosophy that touches thier heart. That's it. Belittleing anyone's else's belief just shows the ignorance and lack of wisdom of the belittlerer.
that means each n every individual has its own different GOD or does it mean same god is in everyone?
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So, Mograkali you can come back as watever you want? once u come back will u be able to remember urself from previous life? If no then wat is the evidence out there that proves that u r coming back?
You come back as whatever is determined by the sum total of your deeds. You have control over the deeds you do. Therefore individual responsibility is placed on you to determine what level of orgamism you come back as. Once your life is over and your deeds are summed up and you are reborn, your previous life is over. You start on a new clean slate. An ant can come back as something else....etc. It follows that you do not remember what your previous life was. Some people claim to remember. I cannot say anything about that, because it is a case in a million or even much less... statistically.
Remmeber Hinduism is also a philosophy. There is no scientific evidence that anyone came back. Reincarnation is a philosophy that reminds everyone to be responsible and do good as far as possible. For me and most Hindus that reminder is enough.
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Remmeber Hinduism is also a philosophy. There is no scientific evidence that anyone came back. Reincarnation is a philosophy that reminds everyone to be responsible and do good as far as possible. For me and most Hindus that reminder is enough.
I have more questions to ask but then it will divert the attention from the topic. I will leave it as it is for now and hopefully will bring questions in other thread. Thankyou for your time:)
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Actually I think I should ask here:
so u said that re-incarnation is basically a philosophy then how does it play a part in religion?
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For a deeper discussion on this you have to be a scholar of Hindu philosophy. I am not, so I am giving you a laymans version.
In classical Hinduism, there is one god or a life force or an amorphous entity or whatever. The gods we worship in idol or other form are just versions or "avatars" of that life force or whatever it is. They are shaped in our minds, in mythology and belief based on the human experience. This is to make it easier to relate to that life force. These gods have histories, marriages, make war, peace, laugh, cry, work etc just like regular people. Thier mythology is based on everything human's do. In Hindu philosophy if we can understand these gods and the things they do, we understand ourselves better.
Is it a different god or the same god in all.. who knows.. we do not take things literally, like in Islam. For Hindu's it is enough to know that the life force is in us, therefore god is in us and around us. We are not greater or bigger than anything else in the universe in terms of what we are made of.
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so u said that re-incarnation is basically a philosophy then how does it play a part in religion?
Hinduism is a mix of philosophy and lifestyle and religious belief. A Hindu has been given the freedom to choose what form touches his heart. Everyone views it differently. That is absolutely allowed. It is very different from Islam. It has a recorded history of atleast 5000 years and is constantly evolving based on the day and age.
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In Hinduism a human being is an organism with greater organization and intelligence to transform his surroundings. He also therefore has a greater responsibility to be as good as he can.
That is all it is.
There is no concept of a better creature than anything else, since god is in everything and every organism.
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Ofcourse I would love to come back as a human being.. living on a jungle floor and trying to get food from decayed plant and animal matter is not my idea of fun.. perhaps it is fun for a fire ant!
In that I personally think humans have it good.
Hinduism does not state that however.