Re: Hinduism-The Cast System
ha ha.. mo... you ran out of replies and got entangled in your words.
let me know when you convert your dna in to quaidani sect of islam. i will put burnol on your dna :D
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you are twisting words and comparing apples with oranges, In modern world when you refer to class you are refring to "non religious" entities. e.g rich, poor, drs. engineers etc... Only in Hinduism you are a low, high, middle caste by birth. There is no such thing in any other religion.
As of my caste/class I am a martian we do not have class/caste in martian orbit :)
As Muslims our religion teaches us to study and compare other religions. I have studied and here is the analysis of the Hindu "Caste System."
True name of HIndu Religion is Dharma that means the righteous path. According to Dharmic Scriptures (Hindu Scriptures) a fully functional society needs 4 Equal Varnas or pillars.
- Labor/working system (Shudra Varna).
- Education system that is free of cost. (Brahmin Varna)
- Business System (Vaishya Varna).
- Army (Kshatriya Varna).
A person can be a part of the any Varna/pillar based on his/her Karma or work not birth.
Shudra Varna: People who are a part of the society that work as employees a form a part of this Varna.
Brahmin Varna: Their job is to spend their time in education and research and religious work. They have to educate society free of cost, as they spend most of their time in non physical labor work they are recommended not to eat meat. In turn the society takes care of them by providing food etc. They teach society free of cost and society takes care of their needs.
Vaishya Varna: These people are business owners or enterpreneurs of the society. They create wealth and employ people.
Kashtriya Varna: Armed forces that protect any society. They can eat meat as they indulge in physical work.
Vedic society was based on your Work and Karma not your birth. A Shudra's child can be a Brahmin, if he chooses the work and study religion and educating people.
This is not a vertical or hierarchical division of society but a horizontal division of society based on your work.
Today All successful societies have these 4 strong pillars.
For Example American society: HAs strong
- Educational system/ Universities.
- Strong Business Enterpreneurs.
- Working class (Employees, they even import people from Abroad on H1b and millions of illegals from Mexico). US govt can easily send these illegals back, but if they do there will be imbalance in society. So they just dont track them. 4.Strong Army.
Look at todays failed societies Lets say Somalia or Afghanistan.
1. No Education system.
2. No Business people.
4. Too many people are in army/militias
5: Too many Mullahs.
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But 100s of millions of Dalits cannot convert and become Brahmin do they, how very strange.... Ambedkar has lot to say on the subject too... May be you should read his books.
PS: For kaka there is lot of burnol as usual.. LAMO
Every Religion or rather people who are religious go thru a phase of religious curruption. Christianity faced curruption during the Dark Ages, where clergy used to issue certificates of heaven to the highest bidder, women were burnt as witches. etc.
Hindu Religion has been thru its phase of curruption, it started with a guy rather preacher named "Manu" who wrote a book named "manu smriti". It was he who currupted the "Varna" system into "caste" system. He promoted that a person is born a Brahmin, Kashatryia etc, but Hindu scriptures say it is according to a persons karma. This currupt practise is followed in many parts of India today as well.
Today Islam is going thru its phase of curruption by Mullahs, who are currupting and twisting the meaning of "Jihad" to fulfil their own agenda. Taliban just like the person who wrote "manu smriti" are twisting Islam their own way....encouraging suicide bombings, keeping women jahil etc.
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As Muslims our religion teaches us to study and compare other religions. I have studied and here is the analysis of the Hindu "Caste System."
True name of HIndu Religion is Dharma that means the righteous path. According to Dharmic Scriptures (Hindu Scriptures) a fully functional society needs 4 Equal Varnas or pillars.
- Labor/working system (Shudra Varna).
- Education system that is free of cost. (Brahmin Varna)
- Business System (Vaishya Varna).
- Army (Kshatriya Varna).
A person can be a part of the any Varna/pillar based on his/her Karma or work not birth.
Shudra Varna: People who are a part of the society that work as employees a form a part of this Varna.
Brahmin Varna: Their job is to spend their time in education and research and religious work. They have to educate society free of cost, as they spend most of their time in non physical labor work they are recommended not to eat meat. In turn the society takes care of them by providing food etc. They teach society free of cost and society takes care of their needs.
Vaishya Varna: These people are business owners or enterpreneurs of the society. They create wealth and employ people.
Kashtriya Varna: Armed forces that protect any society. They can eat meat as they indulge in physical work.
Vedic society was based on your Work and Karma not your birth. A Shudra's child can be a Brahmin, if he chooses the work and study religion and educating people. This is not a vertical or hierarchical division of society but a horizontal division of society based on your work.
Today All successful societies have these 4 strong pillars.
For Example American society: HAs strong
- Educational system/ Universities.
- Strong Business Enterpreneurs.
- Working class (Employees, they even import people from Abroad on H1b and millions of illegals from Mexico). US govt can easily send these illegals back, but if they do there will be imbalance in society. So they just dont track them. 4.Strong Army.
Look at todays failed societies Lets say Somalia or Afghanistan. 1. No Education system. 2. No Business people. 4. Too many people are in army/militias 5: Too many Mullahs.
You beating around the bush as usual going on the tangent, This has nothing to do with Somalia, A-Stan, BuJiness, Mullas, Amreeka blah blah blah. This is about Hindu Caste system.. Now start at the top and focus on caste and low caste and see if Dalits can convert and become Brahmins. :)
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ha ha.. mo... you ran out of replies and got entangled in your words. let me know when you convert your dna in to quaidani sect of islam. i will put burnol on your dna :D
Burn and use burnol :D
Re: Hinduism-The Cast System
I have explained you everything in my post, its explained in simple language...I think you can only write in english but you cannot read english. lol
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I have explained you everything in my post, its explained in simple language...I think you can only write in english but you cannot read english. lol
I know you have explained the universe except hinduism, stay focused on hinduism and keep Somalia, A-Stan, BuJiness, Mullas, Amreeka, martians and every thing else out please. And now start with Hinduism, start with Low caste and see if they can become high caste and please explain how.
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stop crying…
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I know you have explained the universe except hinduism, stay focused on hinduism and keep Somalia, A-Stan, BuJiness, Mullas, Amreeka, martians and every thing else out please. And now start with Hinduism, start with Low caste and see if they can become high caste and please explain how.
There is no concept of lower caste and upper caste is Hindu Religion.
Shudra Varna got currupted to lower caste and Brahmin Varna got currupted to Upper Caste.
Your profession or your Karma decide which "varna" you belong to not your birth.
A son of a Shudra can become a Brahmin if he devotes his life in teaching, religion etc....A son of a brahmin can become a shudra if he devotes his life to become an employee or a worker...
Please see the explanation of the "varna" system in my previous post.
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There is no concept of lower caste and upper caste is Hindu Religion.
Shudra Varna got currupted to lower caste and Brahmin Varna got currupted to Upper Caste.
Your profession or your Karma decide which "varna" you belong to not your birth.
A son of a Shudra can become a Brahmin if he devotes his life in teaching, religion etc....A son of a brahmin can become a shudra if he devotes his life to become an employee or a worker...
Please see the explanation of the "varna" system in my previous post.
I suggest you take your advise to low caste Dalits for a fitting reply, I can provide several links from Dalit orgs to contardict your claims but they would be all hog wash right!! So the low caste in India are by choice and their new borns too?
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Burn and use burnol hiZray 
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lol... looks like you got a good suck on that.
keep on sucking u may develop a brain some day and u may forget all the molestation happened at the madarassa :D
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Burn and use burnol hiZray it also serves as a lube.. 
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haha.. looks like i touched some nerves.
also it seems like u like sucking on that so you came for more..
you would know multiple uses of burnol… thats what your madarassa teacher used on you i guess 
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Burn and use burnol hiZray burn burn burn… its a pleasure to see your KG on fire… burn and use burnol..
LMAO…
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I suggest you take your advise to low caste Dalits for a fitting reply, I can provide several links from Dalit orgs to contardict your claims but they would be all hog wash right!! So the low caste in India are by choice and their new borns too?
This is not the forum to malign or throw mud on any religion. If you want to study Hindu Religion, then you should study Hindu scriptures etc. I'm not here to fight or defend anything.
To judge any religion, a normal person studies books of that religion rather than studying what people of that religion do.....but you belong to the abnormal category... who do the opposite..
You are just like non muslims who think Muslims are terrorists and backward, supressors of women......you belong to the same category....you bring shame to Islam
You are still in the egg. Its high time to comeout of it.
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This is not the forum to malign or throw mud on any religion. If you want to study Hindu Religion, then you should study Hindu scriptures etc. I'm not here to fight or defend anything.
To judge any religion, a normal person studies books of that religion rather than studying what people of that religion do.....but you belong to the abnormal category... who do the opposite..
You are just like non muslims who think Muslims are terrorists and backward, supressors of women......you belong to the same category....you bring shame to Islam
You are still in the egg. Its high time to comeout of it.
This has nothing to do with islam or any other religion, you keep on twisting and turning off topic and do not answer a single questions. Go back and read post #30 again and again.
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suck on it a bit more mo. i know u love it.
suck all u want.
Re: Hinduism-The Cast System
Burn and use burnol hiZray burn burn burn… its a pleasure to see your KG on fire… burn and use burnol..
LMAO…
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suck on it.