Hinduism must get rid of its hateful caste system

Hinduism must get rid of its hateful caste system, says David Haslam

Saturday November 18, 2006
The Guardian

The ongoing conversions of Hindu Dalits to Buddhism and Christianity, most recently at Nagpur, India in October, touch upon the sensitive issues of interfaith relations and faith’s role in the struggle against caste discrimination.

“Discrimination by work and descent”, as the UN calls it, affects up to 200 million people in India and over 250 million worldwide, including groups in Japan and Africa. It can be a vicious, exploitative and demeaning system and constitutes, arguably, the greatest violation of human rights today.

The Nagpur event attracted around 10,000 people. Some 30,000 were converted to Buddhism in the state of Karnataka earlier this year. The mass conversions took place against a background of threats by extremist Hindus, anti-conversion laws and state interference. Some 500 Dalits (formerly called “untouchables”) were baptised, 9,000 became Buddhists. The Lord’s prayer and Buddhist mantras were chanted. A Muslim leader spoke out against caste.

Six Indian states have anti-conversion legislation, masquerading as “freedom of religion” laws - despite the Indian constitution’s commitment to genuine religious freedom. The fate of those who converted at Nagpur remains uncertain, especially if they return to Gujarat, where permission from the authorities is required to change religion and where the right-wing Hindu BJP is in power. The BJP and its partner organisation the RSS have been the most militant in opposing conversions over the past few years. Churches have been burned, priests and missionaries murdered.

The Nagpur ceremony took place on the 50th anniversary and the site of the announcement by Dr BR Ambedkar, the Dalit hero, that, although he had been born a Hindu, he would not die one. He and 50,000 others then converted to Buddhism. Udit Raj, one of the leaders of the current conversion movement, believes the 200 million Dalits will not escape from caste bias until they free themselves from an ideology of enslavement. Dr Ambedkar bitterly argued the point with Gandhi, who, although against untouchability, supported caste as a social and economic system.

The matter is further complicated by the view of some Dalit activists that Hinduism is not a religion at all. They argue there is an ideology called Brahminism, created and sustained by Brahmins to bolster their social and economic position. The psychology of caste, they say, is rooted in the Hindu scriptures, the Rig Veda and the writings of Manu. These are derogatory about Dalits, teaching that the Brahmin came from God’s head, the Kshatriya from his arms, the Vaisya his thighs and the Sudra his feet. Dalits do not figure and are therefore sub-human and polluted. The temples, gods and traditions of Hinduism, say these critics, are simply trappings that enable the upper castes to retain status.

Now that caste is climbing the political agenda, with India’s bland report to the UN Committee for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination being vigorously challenged, the issue being raised at the annual EU/India summits and a three-year UN human rights study reporting in 2007, faith leaders need to examine their positions. Buddhists, Muslims, Christians and Sikhs are becoming aware of a common interest in eliminating caste.

The question is starkly put by Dalit leaders. Can Hinduism exist without caste? Can caste exist without discrimination? Moderate Hindus are placed in a very difficult position and need urgently to demonstrate that Hinduism can be transformed in a way which entirely eliminates the shameful effects of caste.

· Rev David Haslam is a Methodist minister and co-convenor of the International Dalit Solidarity Network

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Hinduism is generally regarded as the world's oldest religion, with roots tracing back to around 4000 B.C. In fact, the word 'Hindu' is derived from the ancient Persian word 'Hindu' (Sanskrit: 'Sindhu') literally meaning river. People living beyond the river Sindhu were called Hindus. Hinduism is now known to be the 3rd largest religion in the world after Christianity and Islam.

Hinduism does not have a single founder, theological system or central religious organization. It encompasses a multitude of religious beliefs, practices and denominations, in fact. It would therefore be inaccurate to think of it as one religion per se. However, there are definite philosophical beliefs associated with Hinduism that have been passed downthrough written works referred to as Vedas and verbally articulated through wise men known as Rishis (or sages)

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If there is a central tenet of Hinduism, it is based around the concept of energy. Conceptually, there are no allusions to beginnings or endings. Rather, human beings are believed to be interconnected to each other, other living beings, inanimate objects, the elements, the cosmos and ultimately a supreme intelligence through such a flow of energy. This is akin to the principles of particle physics, whereby all matter is actually regarded as energy.

Hindus do believe in a "supreme cosmic spirit" called Brahman, who is worshipped in many forms, but is basically a 'trinity' of energies -- the creator (Brahma), the sustainer (Vishnu) and the destroyer (Shiva) of "life energy." They have been embodied by various "human incarnations" over the centuries (Lord Rama, Lord Krishna) -- who have their own unique followings amongst Hindus.

Hindus also believe in the idea of a soul that remains eternal. A soul is neither body, mind nor intellect -- it is a form (like pure energy) beyond such descriptions. It is however indelibly linked with all other souls, and in turn, with the supreme soul or God.

According to ancient Hindu texts, the soul can take the form of many living incarnations in this material world, but ultimately the soul's natural journey is toward the ultimate intelligence or God. It achieves this through practices, which help purify or refine its nature. Hindu philosophy teaches that one's soul can be ultimately liberated from the perishable nature of this material world -- including the body itself. This liberation is called 'Moksha.'

It is from this philosophy that the concept of reincarnation has been developed. Detachment from the superficialities of material life (such as lust, greed, anger and ego) allows the soul to become progressively more "purified" towards its goal of ultimate union with God. This may take several lifetimes, and much suffering along the way. In fact, like Christianity, Hinduism too believes that suffering teaches one's soul many lessons -- such as compassion, humility and tolerance.

According to Hindu philosophy, those who continue to indulge in such "base" energies such as lust or greed remain bonded to the repetitive cycle of birth and death. Thus, Hindus speak of "karma" being "unresolved," or how many lifetimes will it take a soul to learn from certain universal lessons?

The actual meaning of the Hindu word karma is "deeds" -- including thought and words. Many of us have heard, "what goes around comes around." Thus the "law" of Karma teaches that we are ultimately responsible for what we suffer.

Karma and reincarnation are therefore inseparable according to Hinduism. It teaches that our actions in this life will determine our "tendencies" in future lives. Thus, we are born with the burden of an "infinite past." Certain facts of our present life, such as our parents, brothers and sisters and place of birth may have been specifically "pre-determined" in order to help us work through past deeds.

In daily life, Hindus believe in certain basic practices that allow one's soul to become purifed. They include: rituals, chanting religious mantras and singing songs of a devotional nature. These actions can often be combined.

Hinduism is consequently a religious philosophy that emphasizes the interconnectedness of human beings to one another and their universe. Through the practices of self-control, detachment, godly attitudes/actions and purification of one's daily life, Hinduism teaches awakening from the slumber of self-delusory living.

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One thing I noted from the article in the second post is that Hinduism is basically a monotheistic religion or actually more a pantheistic one since Hindus believe that the one supreme being(God) is everywhere, is in everything and everybody.

That is one big mistake that most people make when they see Hinduism and they see all of these idols of God they think it’s a polytheistic religion.
I like one site where it also explains this pretty well:http://www.religionfacts.com/hinduism/beliefs/theism.htm

One thing I like is that Hinduism supports Evolution and doesn’t try to mess with science. Evolution has been proven and there is no reason to say that it is wrong or goes against God.

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^ the confusion arises due to Hindus own portrayal probably, when they say 'God of money', 'God of love', 'God of rain' etc, its not just our own 'misunderstanding'.

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So how do the hindu extremists look at these former Dalits now that they are buddhists. Still treated with the same disdain or are they no longer untouchable.

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What has been proven regarding Evolution. Please elaborate? And what part of it does not go against God.

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Religion has been misused by people to gain Power. So is Hinduism. It is used to Suppress others.

All Religions teach same, It is people who hijack it. Caste system was created for a purpose, it was misused by a group.

What we have in a Major Organisation is Caste system - Some are in R &D, some are in Marketing and Majority was workers. Everyone cannot be in R & D etc.

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I am copy pasting this article from a hindu website.

Hinduism believes in the concept of evolution of life on earth. Although it is not the same as the one known to modern science, in many ways and in a very fundamental sense, it is not much different from the latter.

Modern science speaks of physical evolution and the evolution of nervous system, starting with simple life forms and proceeding to more organized and complex beings with well developed and self-regulating biological and mental mechanisms. Man is so far the known and the ultimate product of this very complex and continuous process.
Hinduism, on the other hands, places its emphasis on the mental and spiritual evolution of life on earth. It speaks of evolution of the beings from a state of ignorance to a state of illumination through progressive and successive intermediate states of partial ignorance and partial illumination. It alludes to a process that proceeds in three primary stages.
The first stage consists of formation, development and strengthening of individual centers of consciousness in physical bodies that are mostly and vastly very inert and unconscious and driven by the force of blind instinct and natural impulse.
The second stage consists of the consolidation and concretization of these personalities into individual egos which act under their own individual and independent wills powered by the energy of desires, and the instinct of survival, undergoing repeated births and deaths, as an ongoing process of further evolution towards the next phase.
The third phase consists of development of a new center of discriminating awareness (parisilanatmaka buddhi) that leads to the gradual surrender and ultimate dissolution of the ego into Truth, Consciousness and Bliss.

http://hinduwebsite.com/evolution.asp

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i do feel that hindus themselves are responsible for this. there is too much of freedom within hinduism. Pluralism was always there and i fully support it. Only thing is pluralism should have been only restricted to philosphies or school of thoughts. without that restriction it led to become a polytheistic faith (in practice) and it took many turns. and there are even many hindus who contend that during vedic times idolatory was extremely rare. and i am one among them.

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Did you never take a science course in school? The theory of Evolution by Charles Darwin who proved that humans evolved from a lower order of animals. There is a full course in Evolution in College about proving just this theory.

There are quite a few Christians that don't believe in Evolution. They refuse to. I don't mean it goes against God but most Christians believe that it goes against their belief system.

I'm not sure about what views Islam has on the subject of Evolution.

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By the way theory of evolution is a theory. If Darwin had proved his theory it should have become law by now. There is a difference between theory and law.

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^:)
ok, you are entitled to your opinion but I found this site and selected the part that I liked the most by copy and pasting:

  1. Evolution (the transformation over a long period of time from one species into another) is a fact–as well-established as any other fact in the world of science. What theory of evolution is the explanation for how that transformation occurs, and that remains a matter of some dispute.
  2. Although fossil evidence sufficiently demonstrates the fact of evolution, even more compelling evidence today comes today from DNA testing of species. In the future, most of our additional knowledge of evolution will come from what we can learn from DNA.
    ** 3. To call evolution a “theory” says nothing about its ability to accurately explain facts observed in the world. The sun-centered solar system of Copernicus and Galileo is a theory.**
  3. Evolution is the central theory of biology. It is a powerful tool for explaining the presence of millions of fossils and other evidence (such as the fact that over 98% of the DNA of chimpanzees and humans is identical) about the origin of life forms.
    Evolution is not considered to be inconsistent with the religious beliefs of most Christians or Jews. Most mainline Protestant denominations, the Catholic Church, and many other religious faiths accept the teaching of evolution. (See, e.g., essay below describing the Pope’s accepting view of evolution.)
  4. There is not a single first-rate biologist* in the United States who does not believe that life on earth has developed through the process of evolution, starting with single-cell organisms.
    (*This seems to be a controversial assertion. As one objective measure, consider the group of tenured members of the biology departments in the nation’s fifty top-rated universities. I do not mean, of course, to suggest that all people who reject evolution are second-rate thinkers.)
  5. There are disputes about evolution as there are about almost any theory. For example, most–but not all–biologists believe that evolution has not worked evenly throughout history: they believe that there have been periods of rapid evolutionary change followed by long periods of relatively little evolutionary change.
  6. It took over 200 years, but eventually the Catholic Church accepted the scientific evidence that the earth revolved around the sun. Eventually, most Fundamentalists will come to accept the theory of evolution as well–whether in 20 years or in 200 is hard to say. But it will happen. Facts are stubborn things.
    http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/FTrials/conlaw/evolution.htm