Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots

[Lahore_981]

Re: Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots

Other verse quoted in the article= 5:60 Say: “Shall I tell you [People of the Book]* who will receive a worse reward from God? Those whom God has cursed and with whom He has been angry, transforming them into apes and swine, and those who serve the devil. Worse is the plight of these, and they have strayed farther from the right path.”* (Dawood)

Lets look at the context of this verse and see whom Allah is referring to.

**005.059:* *Say: "O people of the Book! Do ye disapprove of us for no other reason than that we believe in Allah, and the revelation that hath come to us and that which came before (us), and (perhaps) that most of you are rebellious and disobedient?"

**005.060:* Say: "Shall I point out to you something much worse than this, (as judged) by the treatment it received from Allah? those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath, **those of whom some He transformed into apes and swine, those who worshipped evil;-* these are (many times) worse in rank, and far more astray from the even path!"

So note, this verse is talking to the people of The Book, which are the Jews/Christians. The Quran then REMINDS them of what Allah did to those Jews who broke the Sabbath. Hence in this verse the Quran is simply reminding them of the humiliating punishment he gave to those specific Jews in the time of Moses! No where in this verse is it calling ALL Christians and Jews swine’s and apes.

So note, this is just a reminder of what Allah did to those specific Jews.

[Lahore_981]

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@rvikz

also need info about the verse "kill polythiest wherever you find them" is it just during battle in mecca or does it mean should be universally applied. "wherever" means infringing the rights of sovereign nations that exist now?

Make a separate thread for that buddy. This thread is now just dedicated to bring to light your propaganda against Quran about three verses ONLY...

[Lahore_981]

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The third verse quoted in the article of IGNORANCE= 7:166 But when even after this they disdainfully persisted in that from which they were forbidden, We said to them, “Become apes—despised and disgraced!” (Maududi)

So lets look at the context of this verse in the translation of Abdullah Yousuf Ali

007.163: Ask them concerning the town standing close by the sea. Behold! they transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath. For on the day of their Sabbath their fish did come to them, openly holding up their heads, but on the day they had no Sabbath, they came not: thus did We make a trial of them, for they were given to transgression.

007.164: When some of them said: "Why do ye preach to a people whom Allah will destroy or visit with a terrible punishment?"- said the preachers:" To discharge our duty to your Lord, and perchance they may fear Him."

07.165: When they disregarded the warnings that had been given them, We rescued those who forbade Evil; but We visited the wrong-doers with a grievous punishment because they were given to transgression.

007.166: When in their insolence they transgressed (all) prohibitions, We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected." **
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This is once again a reminder of what Allah did to those specific Jews who broke the Sabbath during the time of Moses. Those Who breached the Sabbath were turned into Monkeys, but Those Who prohibited Their Actions were saved. **Allah said that the people of this village were divided into three groups, a group that committed the prohibition, catching fish on the Sabbath, as we described in the Tafsir of Surat Al-Baqarah. Another group prohibited them from transgression and avoided them. A third group neither prohibited them, nor participated in their action. **

So as we see again, this verse was simply re-telling the story of what Allah did to those specific Jews who broke the Sabbath. Also note that those who did not break the Sabbath WERE SAVED, it was only the bad Jews who were punished and turned into such animals.

So as we see, the Quran simply turned the sinful Jews at the time of Moses into swine’s and apes. Allah did not punish ALL Jews, just that very evil sinful ones, the ones who had not broken the covenant were saved.

So Christians and Jews should stop distorting what the Quran actually says. If they have a problem with the harsh punishment, then that is their own problem, not the Muslims, nor does it dis-prove Islam since I can get you a ton of harsh punishments from the Bible.

[rvikz]

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so you cant work saturdays to make profit ?

[Fret_Wizard]

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Lahore, this guy is clueless. Let him think that every non-Muslim is an ape and a pig. This is only because he want's more "god's" to worship.

[chander_kills]

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@Fret Wizard

A God? Look at the bottom, it'll say "Made in China" on it.

when u took birth, the docs would have found the same sign on ur a-ss

[Fret_Wizard]

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@chander_kills

when u took birth, the docs would have found the same sign on ur a-ss

Does that mean you would worship me?

[rvikz]

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fred tell me does allah distinguish between pakistan and india? he is going selectivly punish /award either country regardless how loyla you are to allah?

[ummm]

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@Crescent_

The only roort hinduism and Islam can have is hindus descend from the Bani Israel who were crushed by the mountains, for worshipping the calf even after being shown guidance.

BTW, hindus haven’t been crushed, they are thriving.

The Old Guy (God) is probably losing his grip…

[Pareezay]

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@chander_kills

Islam, Christianity, Judaism share common roots ??

*“take away Islam and add Hindusim or Buddhism” *

*Thats what christians and Jews will tell you, dont even try asking them moulana ji. *

Who cares what they think- fact is a fact.

[StirCrasy]

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@Nikki.M

Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots cos at the root there's the same God isnit?

@hareem01

Judaism,Christianity and Islam are divine religions.

I don't think Hinduism shares the same roots as Islam. Hope not, looking at the state of Islam.

Hareem: Other than Bible, Quram and Tora (and some Disney cartoons) saying so, there is no proof for divinity of any religion. Disney atleast accepts it is fiction

[StirCrasy]

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@hareem01

Do you believe in one God? The main Aqeedah of each divine religion is to believe in one God.

you are wrong. if that's the main aqueedah, it sounds more like what the demon hiranyakasubu said - that everyone should worship only him and nobody else!

@hareem01

about killing each other..........people kills sometime thier own blood relatives.Because they dont practice or understand thier religion.

About 99.99% of all killings in the past 20 years have occurred with the shout "Allahu Akbar". I don't think they had Emporer Akbar in mind

[StirCrasy]

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@nicols_john

Yet we find something very different when we look back to the period that the German philosopher Karl Jaspers called the "Axial Age" (c.900 to 200BCE) because it proved to be pivotal to the spiritual development of humanity. Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism emerged in India; Confucianism and Taoism in China; monotheism was born in Israel; and philosophical rationalism developed in Greece. It was a period of astonishing creativity; we have never really succeeded in going beyond the insights of such sages as the Buddha, the mystics of the Upanishads, Confucius, Lao-tzu, and the great Hebrew prophets. ** During the Indian Axial Age**, the ancient Vedic deities retreated from the religious imagination. They were seen as unsatisfactory expressions of the sacred, and were either demoted to human status or seen as aspects of the psyche. Many of the Axial sages were reaching beyond the gods to a more impersonal transcendence - to Brahman, Nirvana or the Tao - that was also inseparable from humanity. Yogins and Taoists did not believe that their ecstatic trances represented an encounter with the supernatural, but regarded them as entirely natural to humanity. Later, the more sophisticated theologians in all three of the monotheistic religions would make similar claims about the experience of the reality that they called God.

good article but many mistakes. For example, roots of Hinduism, Vedic and Sanatha Dharmic timeline stretch far more than the 900 to 200bce. many sub-religions have come since then

[StirCrasy]

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@Crescent_

The only roort hinduism and Islam can have is hindus descend from the Bani Israel who were crushed by the mountains, for worshipping the calf even after being shown guidance.

couldn’t have been much of a guidance then could it? come on, now you’re insulting your own religion

ps: that’s what happens when you try to insult Hindu religion, you end up saying the opposite - read up a story of Kumbakarna

[StirCrasy]

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Take away Hinduism, ande add Judaism, and you'd be correct. Nice try though.

** I love how Hindus here try very hard to make an association between Hinduism and the only yes, only 3 religions in existence, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.**

There's nothing in common with the God that we worship and the Blue Elephant with 8 arms.

Which Hindu did that? he's probably doing that to just rile up people like you.

BTW please send a note to your immigration bureau that henceforth they should only print 3 religions in their forms instead of the dozen they have.

ps: if you are illegal, then instead of immigration officer, send to your parole officer

[StirCrasy]

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Look, I have nothing against Hindus, people are free to believe whatever they want to believe, but please save your attempts to try and show how "Hinduism" is similar to Islam, or any of the Abrahamic religons, because that is just pure nonsense, and anyone with half a brain would realize that.

That is true. Hinduism is far superior.

[StirCrasy]

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Lahore, this guy is clueless. Let him think that every non-Muslim is an ape and a pig. This is only because he want's more "god's" to worship.

@Fret_Wizard

Does that mean you would worship me?

hmm! which one are you?

[StirCrasy]

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@Lahore_981

Let me quote something here as a parallel comment for YOU to think about.

There are people who commit adultery

There are those who commit rape

And those who commit other crimes…

God made every human and it is God whom they all look up to. So does that mean God is bad or a criminal…

Think again mamoo, think…

doesn’t quran say not a blade of grass moves withis Allah’s doing?

[StirCrasy]

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A God? Look at the bottom, it'll say "Made in China" on it.

by the same token look under Allah and you'll find Made in Mecca...so what?

[chintu_bhopali]

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Look, I have nothing against Hindus, people are free to believe whatever they want to believe, but please save your attempts to try and show how "Hinduism" is similar to Islam, or any of the Abrahamic religons, because that is just pure nonsense, and anyone with half a brain would realize that.

Hinduisum and islam are totally opposite. We respect every life on planet earth wheras..