Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots

[ssingh]

Re: Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots

Thank god.....hinduism is out of this topic. Please change the name of the topic.

Dont worry fret wizard.....this thread might have started by a hindu. hindus may try to associate itself other faiths but wont try very hard.

As you put it, it's different or even bad. How it's different ?...it's left only for the creator of this universe to decide .

Dude....thax for taking hinduism out of the equation. Atleast it will prevent another blood bath.

Follow your religion....and be happy in life.

[ssingh]

Re: Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots

moderators or who ever it is...."please remove hinduism out of the topic".....it's my sincere and humble appeal. It will create peace for everyone. and i am simply out of this topic. And yes hinduism doesn't share common roots with other faiths. Yes, hinduism is very "different"?..i very well know that and feel that. and also the creator of this universe.

[rvikz]

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@Fret Wizard

Take away Hinduism, ande add Judaism, and you’d be correct. Nice try though.

I love how Hindus here try very hard to make an association between Hinduism and the only yes, only 3 religions in existence, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.

There’s nothing in common with the God that we worship and the Blue Elephant with 8 arms.

you get the rain we get the rain did allah stop rain at pakistani border
you all talk like you have monopoly on god and own it

[Lahore_981]

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@Fret Wizard

Take away Hinduism, ande add Judaism, and you’d be correct. Nice try though.

I love how Hindus here try very hard to make an association between Hinduism and the only yes, only 3 religions in existence, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.

There’s nothing in common with the God that we worship and the Blue Elephant with 8 arms.

Lovely…

FW
if you are a boy then a hug from me
And if a girl, then just a gratitude----->

@ssingh

criminals do sometimes follow god. agreed. But that doesn’t mean god is criminal. I have answered.

Right.
That means the problem is with the men NOT with God.

Similarly, Mr. Singh, not all manners/styles of looking at God are correct. Only a correct manner of looking and perceiving God can lead you to the true nature of God. Otherwise one who is a victim, may think God is criminal (God forbid).

Just as the bad people are not representative of the Divine sanctity, similarly, not all the methods of perceiving God are SAME…

Let the supreem being remain dignified and honored. Please do not degrade the Supreme being by scketching it in different horrendous ways.

Thank you.

@ssingh

you know what lahore…when you say “fruitless thorny tiny plants of desert”…i know who ur reffering. ANd also the relation of criminals with this topic. anyway…i dont care. You can go ahead and think what you want. But dont say anything here, simply it will hurt others.

I gave an anology. I did not allocate a particular description to a specific ideology. It is an anology and let it remain an anology for the sake of understanding…
Thank you

[chander_kills]

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Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots cos at the root there’s the same God isnit?
quoted by Fret Wizard vbmenu_register(“postmenu_4027728”, true);
Take away Hinduism, ande add Judaism, and you’d be correct. Nice try though.

Islam, Christianity, Judaism share common roots ??

*“take away Islam and add Hindusim or Buddhism”:cb: *

*Thats what christians and Jews will tell you, dont even try asking them moulana ji. :hoonh: *

[ssingh]

Re: Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots

But i think it is always easier for a man to imagine god in some form ...what ever we learn, we learn more by imagining something...including science. whether it is horrendous or bad...it depends on the individuals perspective or tastes. I am sure there will be many hindus like that and also other hindus who believe in 'formless' god. I got this from bhagavad geetha.
One who likes a type of form will be closer to that form. it gives him an emotional attachment with god like we have with other humans. Thereby making him to take right decisions always.

i am sure there will be many criminals who believe in a 'formless' god.

Anyway..this wont go anywhere. Its better to believe in both form and no form. I have no qualms with both. And it's possible also. God is god. Very few people (or even nil) actually call him a criminal whether it has a form or no form.

Moreover, morality has nothing to do with form of god

[Fret_Wizard]

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@rvikz

you get the rain we get the rain did allah stop rain at pakistani border
you all talk like you have monopoly on god and own it

Allah provides rain for everyone. It doesn’t mean everyone is showing gratitude to the same God. I’d like to see the 8 armed blue elephant force it to rain in Pakistan.

[hareem01]

Re: Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots

Peace and Salaams to all

In Islamic scriptures we are told that there were 124,000 prophets and that every nation has been given it's own prophet to guide his people towards the worship of One God - who the Muslims call Allah.

You will see that not just the religions talked about so far, but far more religions believe in One God. Hinduism is a name given to the people who hold sacred the books of Veda, Upanishad, Mahabarat, Ramayan and the Puranas.

In this line of books the most authentic is the Veda and it speaks of an Unseen God and single Universal power of the whole universe. This is in alignment with the monotheistic religions of the Judaio-Arabic prophets - sometimes called the Abrahamic religions. The Muslims believe all religions have a possibility of being Islamic in origin. Islam is the name of the religion that all the prophets have brought, but it was only named in the time of prophet Muhammad (SAW). It could be possible that Krishna was a prophet, who spoke of One God and through the years like with other prophets his words were misconstrued and altered to make it seem he was divine.

To say Islam, Christianity and Judaism are all from God and the others are not is also a misunderstanding. In the Qur'an the Christians and the Jews and the Sabeans are called The People of The Book. Their religion was not Christianity, nor Judaism not Sabeanism they were all forms of Islam. Islam is a proper name given to the worship of One God, but all other religions predating Islam are named after a group of people, a location or their spiritual leader. These names can never be the name of a religion.

There is only one true religion which is called Islam - and Muslims believe that all religions can and might have originated in Islamic fashion, but have now been changed and altered to reflect the many manifestations that we see them in today. It only makes sense that Allah gives one religion to the world, because Allah is One.

So be more compassionate with the Hindu people and realise that may be our ancestors might have been Hindu, but also come to common terms with them and help them realise that in their own books it talks of One God, Who the Muslims call Allah!

[Nikki.M]

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@Lahore 981

It is just like saying " I am thirsty and the well should come to me so that I can drink water"

The choice or freedom you follow in your life, “would you believe if I tell you which one is which”

If I tell you how certain fruit tastes, would you believe it unless you taste it yourself?

Certainly not

Then why don’t you go and figure out by tasting each and every fruit yourself to see which one tastes good… Hummmm

Cheers to your way of thinking. But the way you feel what you believe is 100% right, the same way a lot of others, from my ‘religion’, from your own, from another, heck from one or no religion, feel that there is one single God who looks after them all inspite of their differences in race, religion, nationality and all that. What is your individual perception Lahore981, is your own and dun even try forcing it down others’ throat.

BTW your plant argument was not convincing. I tried to make some sense of it and I couldn’t, none whatsover. Do lemme know if you can think of something more convincing, Im not averse to evolving in my way of thinking, but only if I see some sense in it.

[Nikki.M]

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@Fret Wizard

Take away Hinduism, ande add Judaism, and you'd be correct. Nice try though.

I love how Hindus here try very hard to make an association between Hinduism and the only yes, only 3 religions in existence, Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.

There's nothing in common with the God that we worship and the Blue Elephant with 8 arms.

Dude, get over it already. Why the fk would anyone try 'hard' to make an association with anything 'yours?' So did some Prophet come down to you and tell you how many religions exist? Stop dreaming about others confirming to your way of thinking.

And please learn some respect. You were refering to God there, a God worshipped by many. Funny how you want respect but dunno how to give any.

[rvikz]

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@Nikki.M

Dude, get over it already. Why the fk would anyone try ‘hard’ to make an association with anything ‘yours?’ So did some Prophet come down to you and tell you how many religions exist? Stop dreaming about others confirming to your way of thinking.

And please learn some respect. You were refering to God there, a God worshipped by many. Funny how you want respect but dunno how to give any.

More insult is always offered by the smaller, weaker party.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\04\09\story_9-4-2006_pg3_3

[Lajawab]

Re: Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=108904

Here’s my take on the issue…

[Fret_Wizard]

Re: Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots

@Nikki.M

And please learn some respect. You were refering to God there, a God worshipped by many. Funny how you want respect but dunno how to give any.

A God? Look at the bottom, it’ll say “Made in China” on it.

[Fret_Wizard]

Re: Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots

Look, I have nothing against Hindus, people are free to believe whatever they want to believe, but please save your attempts to try and show how "Hinduism" is similar to Islam, or any of the Abrahamic religons, because that is just pure nonsense, and anyone with half a brain would realize that.

[rvikz]

Re: Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots

@Fret Wizard

Look, I have nothing against Hindus, people are free to believe whatever they want to believe, but please save your attempts to try and show how “Hinduism” is similar to Islam, or any of the Abrahamic religons, because that is just pure nonsense, and anyone with half a brain would realize that.

say different thing in different countries when you are in west you claim
abrrahamic faith

But the denigration of Jews and Christians throughout much of the Islamic world is theological and political business as usual. Jews are regularly referred to as “apes and pigs,” mostly because that is what the Koran calls them.
http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20050604-091915-4840r.htm

[Lahore_981]

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@rvikz

Jews are regularly referred to as “apes and pigs,” mostly because that is what the Koran calls them.
http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20050604-091915-4840r.htm

Bachey,

Firstly, There is nothing spelled “Koran” it is “Quran”

Secondly, when you refer to something like Quran, please provide a reference. To the best of my knowledge, Quran has nowhere called Jews as “apes and pigs”… If you make such claim, please tell me a verse actually in Quran that says that.

Thirdly, It is Talmud, the Law Book of Jews that calles everyone who is non-jew a dog, pig, animal, goyum and gentile.

You are more than welcome to put blame on Quran but please tell us the verse that says that.

Waiting for your reference

[rvikz]

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@Lahore 981

Bachey,

Firstly, There is nothing spelled “Koran” it is “Quran”

Secondly, when you refer to something like Quran, please provide a reference. To the best of my knowledge, Quran has nowhere called Jews as “apes and pigs”… If you make such claim, please tell me a verse actually in Quran that says that.

Thirdly, It is Talmud, the Law Book of Jews that calles everyone who is non-jew a dog, pig, animal, goyum and gentile.

You are more than welcome to put blame on Quran but please tell us the verse that says that.

Waiting for your reference

this is debated in this article

Maududi the modern scholar agrees with the classics: “In my opinion their bodies were transformed into those of apes, but their human minds were left intact in order to subject them to extreme torture.” He says of the Arabic wording: “The words of the Qur’an . . . indicate that it was not a moral but a physical metamorphosis.”

http://americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=4208&search=arlandson

[Lahore_981]

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@rvikz

this is debated in this article

Maududi the modern scholar agrees with the classics: “In my opinion their bodies were transformed into those of apes, but their human minds were left intact in order to subject them to extreme torture.” He says of the Arabic wording: “The words of the Qur’an . . . indicate that it was not a moral but a physical metamorphosis.”

http://americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=4208&search=arlandson

Bachey, teri shaamat aai hai.

I have the answer for this. Let me write it down. It is more like rebuttal for the author of the article you mentioned…

And it will be a shame for you to post this blame on Quran so ignorantly… :cb:

Wait for my answer

[Lahore_981]

Re: Hinduism, Islam, Christianity share same roots

Yes, the Quran did call the Jews swine’s and apes, however so, was the Quran referring to them all? Was the Quran referring to ALL Jews throughout history? From past till present?
Let us see.

First quoted verse in the article= 2:65 And you know well **the story of those* among you who broke Sabbath. We said to them: “Be apes—despised and hated by all.” 66 Thus We made their end a warning to the people of their time and succeeding generation, and an admonition for God-fearing people*. (Maududi)

Now lets look at the verses preceding this quoted one. I am using Abdullah Yousuf Ali’s translation here

002.063: And remember We took your covenant and We raised above you (The towering height) of Mount (Sinai) : (Saying): "Hold firmly to what We have given you and bring (ever) to remembrance what is therein: Perchance ye may fear Allah."

002.064: But ye turned back thereafter: Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of Allah to you, ye had surely been among the lost.

002.065: And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."

002.066: So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear Allah.

These verses were referring to a specific group of Jews who had sinned during the time of Moses.

Note that also verse 66 says that they WERE MADE AN EXAMPLE. So this just happened to a specific group of Jews, who had dis-obeyed God, so God gave them this harsh punishment, and made this punishment as an example.

So as we see, the verse was referring to a specific group of Jews at the time of Moses. NOT ALL Jews throughout history and up to the present. Such lies and distortions by Christians and Jews just expose their blatant ignorance.

In fact what makes this funny is that Christians/Jews insult themselves, since they are the ones making the claim that the Quran calls them ALL swine and apes when it doesn’t, so it is the Christians/Jews who are calling themselves with such names! The irony!!!!

So hence Christians and Jews should stop misinterpreting verses to say things which they don’t.

Now lets decide what to call rvikz :D

[rvikz]

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@Lahore 981

Bachey, teri shaamat aai hai.

I have the answer for this. Let me write it down. It is more like rebuttal for the author of the article you mentioned…

And it will be a shame for you to post this blame on Quran so ignorantly…

Wait for my answer

also need info about the verse “kill polythiest wherever you find them”
is it just during battle in mecca or does it mean should be universally applied.
“wherever” means infringing the rights of sovereign nations that exist now?