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Yes, you need this information. Buddha was declared the ninth avatar of Vishnu and the tenth Kalki is awaited.
that is correct. if someone offers you divinity, i assure you that you are meeting a fraud or a psyche case.
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Avator ?? What is an avator ? Is it incrination of God ?
who are the first 8 avator ?
is there any limit ?
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I thought the ninth avatar is somebody who is very strong and is ready for war. which contradict to what budha ever stood for
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May be war against injustice, cruelty and hate ??? Are they not considered 'greater wars' ??
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Avatars (Incarnations) of Vishnu
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Matsya
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Kurma
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Varaha
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Narasingh
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Vaman
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Parasuram
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Rama
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Balaram ?
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Buddha ?
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Krishna
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Kalki
Lord Vishnu’s preserving, protecting powers have been manifested to the world in a variety of forms, called Avatars, in which one or more of his divine attributes were embodied in the shape of a human being or an animal or a human-animal combined form, possessing great and sometimes supernatural powers. All these Avatars of Vishnu appeared in the world either to correct some great evil or to effect some great good on earth. These avatars are ten in number, however, the Bhag wad Purana increases them to twenty two and adds further that are innumerable.
Of the ten universally recognized avatars, nine have already manifested whereas the tenth is yet to appear.
It is important to note that the all the Avatars are earthly form of Lord Vishnu , who himself is eternal, unchangeable and immutable.
Parashurama shows the man of power, Rama the Divine warrior and protector, Krishna the Divine lover, Buddha the Divine sage, and Kalki the completer and saviour . In this scheme we see the idea of the evolution of the soul from the animal re alms to perfect spiritual knowledge.
The idea of the messiah came to the western religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam from the Zoroastrian religion of ancient Persia. Zoroastrianism has similar incarnations of Vrithragna (Indra). Hence it is related to the avatar idea of the Hindus.
Note : In some versions Buddha is replaced by Balarama. We have given a description of both.
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Oh. Interesting 
It looks quite deep :k:
Only Rama ,Krishna and Budha are well know avators
Why don’t hindus preach ? Is some person wants to convert to hinduism what are the basic beliefs ?
Interestingly some religions (like Bahai) consider Krishna and budha as prophets (messenger of God) along with Moses, jesus and Muhammad and many others
About jainism…
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Hindus don't preach because it doesn't matter if yu pray to allah or mohammed is your prophet..you are still a hindu.
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yes they do actually. They preach alrite. They're view on lifestyle is pretty similiar to ours. Perhaps thats more to do with our similiar culture & background.
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Budha comes before Krishna.. any proof..
. Krishna is there during Mahabharat. but is there any mention about Budha in it. Balaram is again mentioned but again no Budha in Mahabharath.
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You are right. It is due to printing mistake in the website.
Correct version should be…(Please re check, may be the earlier sequence is also incorrect, I am not a scholar of HIndu religion.)
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Matsya
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Kurma
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Varaha
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Narasingh
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Vaman
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Parasuram
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Rama
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Krishna
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Balaram ?
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Buddha ?
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Kalki
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For those who are inclined towards hidden messages, the incarnations roughly follow what modern scientists claim to be the sequence in which life forms originated on earth - Fishes -> Reptiles/ amphibians -> lower mammals ->higher mammals -> pygmies -> and then men.
Amongst men, the sequence is angry warriors -> sober, goodie goodie human -> good, but merilly cunning -> dangerous one that would cause the destruction of the earth (the last, yet to occur incarnation)
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interesting ..destruction of earth..similar to kayamat
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Just as in other societies, there is a small group in India which believes that the last incarnation has been born on this earth...and qayamat is due anytime now
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Hei guys look at this site..
http://www.angelfire.com/co/jainism/jaingods.html
This is interesting.. Its a pity we dont have any jains among us to discuss these things. The thing i liked is the concept of God. Thats quite cute.
Jainism believes that universe and all its substances or entities are eternal. It has no beginning or end with respect to time. There is no need of some one to create or manage the affairs of the universe. Universe in run own its own accord by its own cosmic laws. Hence Jainism does not believe in God as a creator, survivor, and destroyer of the universe.
However Jainism does believe in God. When a living being destroys all his karmas, he possesses perfect knowledge, vision, power, and bliss. He becomes omniscient and omnipotent. This living being is a God of Jain religion. Hence Jains do not believe in one God. Gods in Jain religion are innumerable and the number is continuously increasing as more living beings attain liberation. Every living being has a potential to become God of the Jain religion.
While travelling on the path of spiritual progress, a person destroys all eight types of his karmas in the following sequence.
First Mohaniya (delusion), then Jnana-varaniya (knowledge), Darasna-varaniya (vision), and Antaraya (natural qualities) all three together.
Lastly the remaining four namely Nama (body), Ayu (life span), Gotra (social standing), and Vedniya (pleasure and pain of the body). He then attains liberation.
The first four karmas are called Ghati karmas because they obscure the natural qualities of the soul. The last four karmas are known as aghati karmas because they are related to the body of the soul. Once a person destroys all Ghati karmas, automatically he will destroy all his Aghati karmas at the end of his present life. No fall back can occur.
A person who destroys all eight types of karmas is called Siddha. A person who destroys only four ghati karmas is called Arihanta (Tirthankara, Jina etc). Both Arihantas and Siddhas are classified as Gods in Jainism.
Arihanta:
When a person destroys his ghati karmas, he attains keval-jnana. He has regained the original attributes of his soul which are perfect knowledge, vision, power, and bliss. He is omniscient of the past, present and future forms of all entities (living and nonliving beings) of the universe. He is still a human being. He preaches the religion and remains in the state of blissful condition for the rest of his life. He is known as an Arihant.
Arihantas have two categories:
Tirthankara
Ordinary-kevali
Tirthankara:
Immediately after attaining keval-jnana, if a person establishes the four-fold religious order of monks, nuns, sravaks (male laypeople), sravikas (female laypeople) is known as Tirthankara.
He preaches the Jain philosophy, religion, ethics, etc. to his followers.
Twenty-four Tirthankaras are born during this descending part of the time cycle (Avasarpini Kaal) of this region (Bharat Kshetra) of the universe. No two Tirthankaras have lived at the same time in this region. Generally a Tirthankara is born when the religion is at its depression state. He revives the same philosophy and religion at that time. Sometimes he gives a different form to the religion depending upon the time, place, and human behavior.
For example, Lord Mahavir preached five great vows, while Lord Parshva preached four great vows. The vow of celibacy was included in the non-possession category during Parshav’s time.
Tirthankaras are also known as Jina or Nirgrantha.
Jina means one who has conquered his inner passions like desire and hatred.
Nirgrantha means one who has gotten rid of all attachments
Ordinary-kevali
The only difference between Tirthankara and ordinary-kevali is that the latter does not establish the religious order. He remains in the state of perfect blissful condition for the rest of his life after attaining Keval-jnan.
In the religious scriptures the name Arihantas and Tirthankaras are interchangeably used because ordinary-kevalis do not play a significant role in the religious order.
Siddha
All Tirthankaras and ordinary-kevalis destroy their remaining Aghati karmas, and attain liberation at the end of their present life. Now they are known as Siddhas. They are totally free. They do not possess body. They are free from the birth and death cycle. They do not feel pleasure and pain, or joy and sorrow. They live in an ever lasting blissful condition at the top of Lokakas known as Moksha. All siddhas possess the same quality of soul, and their attributes are same. However, they still maintain their unique identity.
For Example, Lord Mahavir’s soul as a siddha has a different form than the soul of Lord Bahubali.
Both Arihants (Tirthankaras and ordinary-kevalis) and Siddhas are considered Gods of Jain religion.
Q. In the Namokar Mantra we pray to the Arihants (Tirthankara) first and then to the Siddhas second. Even though the Siddhas are perfect souls and have destroyed both Ghati and Aghati Karmas, and Arihantas have destroyed only Ghati Karmas.
A. It is because Arihants after attaining keval-jnana (after destroying ghati-karmas), preach the Jain philosophy and religion. They explain the path of liberation and attributes of Siddhas. Without the help of Arihantas we would not have known Siddhas. For this reason we pray Arihantas first and Siddhas second.
The Four-Fold order
Monks and Nuns: They practice self-control and have given up all desires and earthly possessions become the spiritual practicers and teachers.They follow strictly five maha-vrats.
Sravaks and Sravikas (Lay followers): They are not required to renounce the world, but are expected to discharge household duties by honest means and live a progressive pure life. They the follow twelve vows of lay people.