Hindu Temple Demolished In Pakistan

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Since when honorable director of this board started talking like this? What U mean by sanskrit name and what prompted U to ask this silly-looking question?

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Thanks for giving me courage which I was about to lose by obvious remarks about myself.

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U have a point here, why cant Indians talk positive things about Pakistan. I would say its no use talking positive about Pakistan with U guys. But still we talk positive about Pakistan. Somewhere else to some other peoples.

See, I m in Indian. And the way I feel is a bit different. While most ppls here in India see corruption as the biggest problem, I pick the growing wedge between the two communities as the one and only biggest problem in India which needs to be fixed.

The problems in Pakistan worries me just because it is linked to death of innocents by religious fanatics. Same religious fanaticism is palpable in Indian society. Both hindus and muslims are in grip of this monster. But for some obvious reasons muslims are more inclined towards it. (Not a sweeping statement)

So as a small soldier of secularism, I have to deal with my hindu brethren who are hell bent on making India a fanatic state where muslims should have different rights, and they find Pakistan as a driving force behind their rotten views. I m very much vocal and aggressive about any such idea and whenever we would discuss the demolition of Babri Mosqsue, I would always point out the fact that in the aftermath of Babri demolition, no temple in Pakistan was demolished. So when the news of temple razing broke, I naturally received hostile brickbats from my own ppls. And I was pained to see some taking this incident as the justification of their views. Hence this ill-fated thread.

As Pakistanis U feel pain when unfortunate incidents like Gujrat of Babri mosque happens. There is a vast majority of hindus in India who feel more pain than U. Just because they dont see those muslim victims by religious glass, but as human beings and when the killers are from their own hindu community, they feel ashamed and disgusted too.

I see the onset of violence in Pakistan as a dangerous trend. The virus is spreading fast in our society too. For instance this before the start of this Moharram, I was shocked to see posters on wall wishing Moharram mubarak (As the Islamic new year) to muslims. When I inquired about it further and could reach to ppls who were behind this, I was shocked to find them unrepentant and standing firmly behind their malicious comments. This kind of incidents often raise a question in my mind. When muslims (some of them) are so intolerant about their own brethren how difficult is it to make India a place of our dreams. where everyone is free to practice his or her religion without fear of being persecuted.

And here I see a big difference between hindus and muslims. While so called hindu religious scriptures preach divide of society, still hindu society is successful in resolving all the differences and living as a unified one. and despite repeated warnings from ALLAH through holy quran, muslims ( some of them) are hell bent on spreading sectarian hatred among themselves. To the extent that Majalis in Moharram have to be conducted under heavy security. Security for whom? for Muslims. Security for what fear? for fear of muslims. What kind of muslims? Hyper religious ones. dont u find something ironic here?

Now some respected members can call me a troll, others can see hate agenda behind it. But I will call it a small attempt to achieve what I long for, a violence and hatred free society.

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Thanks diwana saheb for posting the statement. Justice Katju is one among the millions of Indians who symbolizes the right thinking ppls of this religious-crazy nation. And I echo his sentiments too.

What was ur purpose of bringing this up here is still to be understood if U can become bit more kind towards me and find me worth replying. However I admit that I dont match ur intellectual stature.

BTW what Justice Katju said about Indians could be true for other neighboring socities too. Ur kind take on this?

Forgive me, but I feel that U have a good habit of judging others according to ur understanding, and that too very quickly. U failed to notice that I m not a typical religious hindu who can become mad when a temple of his deities is demolished. Be it known to U that I m madly against spending even a penny on religious structures or ritual. If temple all over the world are demolished (but without hurting anyone’s religious sentiments) for some good cause (ie using the property for the needy and underprivileged) I would be the happiest hindu of the world. Because in my views that will be the best service to the ALMIGHTY for whom the temples are supposed to be.

The real issue behind creating this thread was a bit different. What I feel is that either Pakistani society should become Islamic and show to the world how Islam can bring change in a Nation’s or Individual’s life. Or if they cant, than for ALLAH sake try to stop these kind of incidents. I again emphasize on the fact that the temple was said to be razed by a builder and not the law-enforcing agencies. This amounts to religious gundagardi according to my sets of parameters.

Where I generalized on this thread? When I said that “Muslim go berserk” i honestly meant about a section of muslims. When I said “duty of muslims to break idols” I was echoing the views of Allama Iqbal and a large section of Muslim society which is fast growing. PLz elaborate someone where I was wrong to receive all the brickbats and infractions? One doesnt have to join a foreign university to judge what my intentions were, but most ppls chose to demoralize me by using terms like troll or hater or blah blah.

Find out one single post which really addressed my questions? Like a brother told me that killings of Pakistani muslims by muslims themselves are a result of drone strike, or kashmir dispute or israili occupation. I have no problem with such responses either, only I refuse to gulp down. But passing uncivilized comments is no good idea either.

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Unless you mistook us for being telepathic how hard is it to type a ''section'' of Muslims then? What an absurd point you've made.

If Obama or anyone else started saying ''Muslims are terrorists'' then ofcourse their silly remark will be adjudged to be racist, its as simple as that.

A Muslim is anyone who believes in Islam, hence 'Muslims have gone berserk'' means anyone who believe in Islam has gone berserk unless you make that distinction.

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^ well said

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That is incorrect, there are MANY MANY mosques that are built on illegally acquired land and now those mosques can not be removed because it is "haraam" to demolish a mosque (which is incorrect interpretation of religion).

They should punish the one who demolished if a mandir is actually demolished considering that there was case in court about it.

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I am sorry, I see contradictions in your posts.

Sometimes you pose as a person who believes on ALLAH (I capitalized that just as you did, perhaps trying to earn some brownie points and catch attention), then you say you are some kind of Hindu.

If you are not a "typical religious Hindu" then who are you? Atypical Non-religious Hindu? Or Atypical Non-Religious Muslim?

I do know your possible answer(s) already to that, so you can spare yours and my time on that. Not gonna work with me at least.

Besides, Shak already answered you, the readers are not that fool that you try to prove them to be.

I have read your previous posts and the post above this one with backhanded attacks and spreading hatred against Pakistan or Muslims in general.

The purpose of my link above was to show that you have some work to do at your home and don't have to attack Muslims of Pakistan.

As Ali said earlier, and I would add to that.............. work on your house in order before posting even doubtful 'news'.

I can dissect your posts but I find no need to answer you in detail.

Thank you and Good Bye. :)

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After reading diwana’s post I would like to add the above two quotes btw which is exactly what Huma meant ie someone claiming to be a Muslim, then calling Muslims terrorists and later contradicting himself. She is too nice to say it so I will, even with the obvious provocation she has faced in the past she has time and time again invited you or anyone to PM her but please lets not come on GS for the purpose of winding people up.

Noone really cares who you are or what you believe in, the point is keeping your tone respectful. And as I pointed out calling Muslims terrorists which btw you admitted ==>(‘‘Okay thanks for pointing out my mistake, I will take care.’’), is not the right way to go.

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I don't know Raj. So I wont defend him. But you do protest too much. I have seen enough posts from you to conclude you take shots at Hindus at every chance. You have a tendetwist to deliberately twist things to misrepresent what a poster says.

You are clever enough to not violate GS policies. I am a bit surprised you have any credibility with leadership.

This is not a personal attack. It is an honest observation. That you have not been called out on this is a disappointment.

I have no intention to drag this into a long argument. But this needed to be said. If mods feel this is not the truth, they can move it.

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