Hijacking and eventual death of Pakistani Right

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The auspicious day of August 14th saw the birth of our land, motherland of Pakistan.

However a less celebrated aspect of that wonderful day was the grand win for the economic right wing of the British India. It was a win of 3 piece suite wearing, cigar smoking, Rolls Royce riding MA Jinnah and his free market supporters.

Look at any picture from that time where you see Jinnah as an epitome of Westernized Free Market smart looking personality vs. beggar-look-alike show-shaw-lists (socialist) MK Gandhi and Pundit JL Nehru.

The same socialist Pundits and peruhits were supported by their fascist counter parts the Muslim fundamentalists aka Mullah socialists.

These show-shaw-lists snickered and laughed at Pakistan and overtly and covertly sought the destruction of our motherland.

These show-shaw-lists gave us only 2 years of survival and did every thing in their power to overwhelm and destroy Pakistan in its infancy.

However these dimwits never realized the power of the “free market” economy.

Pakistan, thanks to MA Jinnah and his Gurjrati free-market industrialists, Sindhi and Punjabi farmers quickly set Pakistan to the path of prosperity. By the end of 1940s Pakistan was already a forward looking, free market, and dynamic country.

Pakistan who started with no industry and a single university surpassed its neighbors within 10 years. By 1957 Pakistan was producing the top notch engineers, doctors, bankers, and teachers. The Western countries saw the potential of Pakistan and the accolades and $$$ poured in. Western countries opened their hearts and wallets for the burgeoning Pakistani middle class. Immigration quotas for the Pakistanis was limitless. Pakistani engineers just needed to show up at the Karachi airport, to get the I-151 stamped on their passport. People compared Pakistan to an equally promising free-market Asian country called South Korea.

However this is the time, when both secular and Islamic socialists started conspiring against our motherland. While our free-market industrialists and farmers were busy 24/7 building up the country, the commie-socialists termites were burrowing in the very foundations of our country.

These socialist imbeciles finally succeeded in their machinations and we were subjected to the economic terror during ZA Bhutto’s dark days. This is the time when Commie and Mullahs alliance successfully hijacked and then murdered Pakistani right.

The commies hit our schools, colleges, banks, and industry like black plague. By 1975 ZA Bhutto’s commies had destroyed in 3 years what Pakistani free markets had developed in 30 years.

Once the industrialists were turned to paupers, Mullahs took over the reigns of Pakistani right. Pakistani Shias, Pakistani-Christians, and Pakistani-Ahmadis were routinely attacked and looted. This further diluted any chance of Pakistani return to the free markets.

At 60’th birthday, Pakistan is overburdened by the socialist Supreme Court, Academia, and media. These socialist anarchists routinely sabotage any efforts by Pakistan’s free market policy makers to reduce the commie influence.

Mullahs who are rabidly socialists now claim to fully own Pakistani right. And the result has been continuous decline of industry. The only thing that saved Pakistan was the free market farmers. Thank god and thank those farmers that we don’t suffer from famines and anarchy that has plagued so many countries in the recent decades.

However in the long run, Pakistan must return to the vision of Jinnah, the epitome of Western free market believer. Pakistani industrialists have no choice but to de-throne Mullahs or carve out a niche that clearly differentiates between Mullahtic tyranny and the free market right-wing economic approach. Pakistani industrialists even now can easily become the new Hyundais, Hondas, and Toyotas. We just need to re-empower and resuscitate Pakistani-economic right-wing.

It is not going to be easy. Unlike August 1947, socialists now are fully intrenched in Pakistan. It will be a monumental but a worth-while effort. We must rescue our motherland from the commie-Mullah infestation.

Peace.

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The biggest problem I see here is that PAKISTAN has spent 34 years out of 60 under military rule and Pakistan has such a history of feudalism , which still exists today.

Let us start with PML , the party laying foundation 60 years ago , still mainly dominated by Zamindars and Sardars . Political parties in Pakistan are feudal-orientated, and more than two-thirds of the National Assembly (Lower House) is composed of this class. And almost half of Pakistan’s gross national product and the bulk of its export earnings are derived primarily from the agricultural sector controlled by a few thousand feudal families ( Shuja.M.S , 2000 ) .

Throughout out history the feudal families retained control over the national affairs through bureaucracy and the armed forces . In 1972 , they assumed direct power and retained it until the military regained power recently.
This pattern is clearly evident in other Muslim countries as well and in result the OIC (Organization of the Islamic Conference) reported that its fifty-six member countries comprise 20 percent of the world population but produce only 5 percent of world GDP, and pardon me for saying it but much come form oil.( Zoakos . M. C , 2006)

Pakistan is caught in a schizophrenic situation. Where on one hand, it must attend formal function to the needs of Pakistani society, and draws them modernity and economic integration with the rest of the world. On the other hand, Pakistan has to satisfy the interests of constituent local elites, whose survival depends on opposing globalization. But still PAKISTANIS have much to smile about today. Our economic growth is up and it all be happening after a dismal period of more than a decade, especially in the commodity-producing sector. It has been reported that during the financial year 2006-07, the aggregate value of foreign investment in the country became $ 8,416.6 which is 88 per cent more compared to the financial year 2005-06 (Pakistan Times , 2007 ) . While inflation rates have gone up recently, they are still within manageable limits. All this would have appeared unlikely even a few years ago. The Pakistani pattern has been characterised as ‘growth without development’, because, despite its respectable per capita growth over the second half of the twentieth century, Pakistan systematically underperformed on most social and political indicators such as education, health, sanitation, gender equality, fertility, corruption, political instability and violence, and democracy. ( Shuja.M.S , 2005 ).

I may not support Musharraf as a ruler in uniform, but admit that he has been good for the nation, and I do appreciate his taking smart decisions at the time of need. I hope some day Pakistan will return back to the situation prevalent in the 1950s when half of Pakistan’s exports went to India and 32 per cent of its imports came from India.

References

Pakistan Times , 2007 , 88% More Foreign Investment in Pakistan than 2005-06 , available online http://www.pakistantimes.net/2007/08/19/business1.htm last visited 19/08/07].

SHUJA.S., 2000 . The Pakistani Military Coup of 1999: Some Explanations. Contemporary Review. Volume 276. Issue 1611. Page Number 183

SHUJA.S, 2005 , Musharraf’s Administration and Pakistan’s Economy. Contemporary Review. Volume 286. Issue: 1670, Page Number 129+.

ZOAKOS.M.C,2006. Rising Muslim Schizophrenia: An Investor’s Guide to Globalization and the War on Terror. The International Economy. Volume: 20. Issue: 4.. Page Number: 20+.

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antibol's history essay is amusing. but have to highlight out a few chuckleworthies:

  • Jinnah the 'epitome of Western free market' - hardly a compliment
  • Free market was not a driver for independence; neither was it given any shape after independence - where did you get that?
  • Anybody who knows Pakistan knows it was created for muslims to live separate from Hindu India. Religion and mullas come bundled in - they didn't somehow take over at a later stage. they were always there - the utter VIOLENCE is what got introduced into religion at a later stage
  • overburdened by courts, academia and media? wth do you want? just army and madrissas?
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I agree with many of the facts that you have stated here but not with your assumptions. Feudalism isn't in my opinion Pakistans core problem, it is a factor , what is an issue is the culture of authoritarianism, a culture of impunity which exists.

it is wrong to compare the military backed PML's with the PML of Jinnah. his party had some feudals, but it also had populist leaders who were well educated and reformers. Again your claim about the feudal nature of Pakistans national assembly is dubious, the last two assemblies has far less feudal presence then at anytime in Pak history. What is more accurate is that the present PML is upto 2/3rd feudal or robber baron in nature. The agricultural sector export factor is something common throughout most countries, the difference being it's corporate dominated and not family.

Not true, both the civil service and the army within their traditional recruiting areas are meritorcracies to an extent, while some feudals have representation, their colloboration with the military establishment was mutually beneficial. The establishment wanted to control the people and the feudals were willing tools in the same way as they were during the Raaj and the Mughal era.

Pakistan is by it's very nature a schizophrenic society. Your comment about growth without development which applies to Zia and Ayubs time as much as it does to Mushys is the core problem, Pakistan core problems is as I have repeated many a time not economic nor political..they are moral or ethical. I personally don't support to the Bush/Mush/OBL philosophy of dividing the world on ideological grounds. I look at it as a division in Pakistan between those who support democracy and the rule of law versus those who don't..those who don't represent the authoritarian mentality and those who do..*you can pick those people out in any discussion on Pakistan. They hold the peoples wishes in contempt, have a twisted relationship with the US (love-hate, hate-love but always serve), and define themselves as Pakistani by trashing India. *

Musharraf has done more for Pakistan's economy then any leader recently, but he has more blood on his hands then any leader recently as well...the former is to be appreciated..the latter is inexcusable.

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Yeap. Socialists and Mullahs in Pakistan both hate Jinnah being pro-West free market approach towards life. How else he would be building mansions in the British India, traveling in Rolls Royce, wearing three piece suites.

Socialists wanted their leaders to wear red, wear khaddar (hand made course cloth), and live like beggars. Gandhi and Nehru followed those same show-shaw-lists.

So yes! Jinnah is not a good guy in the eyes of Mullahs and their socialist buddies.

Yes it was! Nehruvian socialism's first target were the free-market supporter land owners. Their lands were robbed and looted by the very Indian government who was supposed to protect the Indian citizens. Another legacy of Congressi inspired socialism were the large government industries, and pro-union anti-industry rules.

Pakistan on the other hand opted for free market approach after 1947. No nationalization of lands or industry. Unions were kept in strong check. This approach resulted in tremendous growth in both agriculture sector as well as industry.

Only socialists would ignore all that and focus solely on Mullahs. That's the only way they can play their twisted commie games.

haahha! Must be reading some Jamati rag!

Even the primary school kid knows that Mullahs were bundled with Congress of India. No big name Mullah ever favored Muslims league or any secular Muslim run organization.

Yeap the same anti-Pakistan Mullahs ran from India with their tails inside you know where and showed up shamelessly in Jinnah's Pakistan.

Go Sahib and read some unbiased history before putting lies on the net.

I guess you have no idea of modern day Pakistan's economic and social atmosphere. Oh well! living in Western countries and attending Arab run mosques does snatch away the important parts of one's faculty.

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Well said and very true. :k:

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Yeah, this "recently" thing needs to be defined. Does it start after 71? After 98?

I need a pampering thread :-(
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The partition of india and the creation of pakistan was not done in the name of " free market economy" blah blah blah. The partition happened because of RELIGION.

Jinnah the secular gora look-alike USED islam for his political aims. If Jinnah had used the slogan of "western free market" to get votes nobody would have voted for him. Pakistan's creation happened because Muslim League exploited Muslim feelings and told them they would be a persecuted minority in an independent india.

Bottom like is that Pakistan was not created for Jinnah, Pakistan was created for the idea of Indian Muslims living freely with out persecution. Just like america was not created for George Washington, but for the idea of living freely from British rule.

Pakistan ka Matlab kia ?

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Your assertions are typical of Pak-India leftie intellectuals. Unfortunately these assertions are utterly wrong.

Let me give you a lesson in politics. They always say that judge a political party by the people who put money for it.

Congress of India was "financially" supported by baniya class who favored big government and socialist policies. The other source of funding for Congress was the Mullah+Pundit class who believed in Gandhi's Gita+Quran reading socialist-secularist mumbo jumbo.

Jinnah was hated by the Indian socialists and Mullahs.

Jinnah and his ML was 'financially' supported by Gujrati + Parsi +Shia + Qadiani businessmen + Muslim mega Land-owners (so inappropriately named as feudal lords). These businessmen and mega-farmers were all anti-socialists. None of them supported government actions for limiting wealth or property (aka free-market in modern lingo). Heck Jinnah's right hand man Liaqat Ali Khan was one of the biggest feudal lord of Karnal.

That is why Gandhi+Nehru cabal was hated by the anti-socialist pro-Pakistanis.

Your partition theory based on religion falls flat on its face if you ever perform even a basic analysis of British-Indian politics.

Name one major Mullah who supported or put a single dime in Muslim League's election fund and I'd give your "RELIGION" based theory some points.

Mullahs and Pundits were "AGAINST" partition, and they were on the same side, so how can you say that religion was the main reason for partition?

Aqalmandi (commonsense) ka matlab kia??????

The Random Thread
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err okay. antiobl, atleast throw in some truth once in a while. gandhi had the financial backing of quite a few businesses - the Tatas, the Birlas, the Bajajs, the Godrejs. These were mostly the top industrialists of pre-independence india - diverse backgrounds - Gujarati, Sindhi, Parsi, Marwaris.

all the smokers on GS
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And here are a few pointers for your future jokes/posts:

  1. Baniya = businessman. So when you say baniyas supported Gandhi and businessmen supported Jinnah, it just does not make sense, pal.

  2. Businesses throughout punjab and NWFP were run by hindu banias. Muslims were principally farmers and landowners. These enterpreunerial hindus did not support Jinnah.

  3. Jinnah was from a Gujarati bania family, also his name was shortened from Jinnahbhai later in life.

  4. Organized fatcat-Mullah Agakhan threw in vast sums of money for the Pakistan movement.

  5. Muslim hai to Muslim league mei aa, not Capitalist aur anti-socialist hai to ML mei aa.

  6. Religion was the reason pak was created, not Nehruvian socialism. Hence, mullahs are part of your heritage.

  7. Gandhi's financial backers today run successful business empires stretching across the globe. Where are your mega-farmers and mega-businessmen that allegedly rallied behind Jinnah's Pakistan?

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Arrey bhai, two questions for you- (1) why would Qadianis support Muslim league when they are not muslims themselves :confused: (2)

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He was a mohajir in the sense that he emigrated from East Punjab/ Haryana in India to Pakistan, but he was of the Punjabi ethnic group. I was reading an old post on GS which mentioned he was from the Rajput caste.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showpost.php?p=1783496&postcount=2

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antiobl is right on the money.

jinnah abhorred socialism and was appalled by leftist rhetoric employed by second generation congress leaders like nehru. jinnah's disagreement with congress over this issue was one of the main reasons for jinnah alienation with congress. important to remember that the original founders of congress, who were also jinnah's mentors, were liberal in the traditional sense of the word. people like dadabhoy naoroji had a very different world view from that espoused by the later day congress leaders like nehru.

jinnah, being the champion politician that he was, never fully outlined his vision because he did not want to create schism in muslim boy-politic. jinnah's goal was to keep muslims united which was best achieved by focusing on a one point agenda. after partition, govt of pakistan implemented a very different set of policies compared to that implemented by congress. india saw the adaption of license-raj socialism which ended up providing economic protection to the traditional backers of congress like the tatas. in contrast pak operated in a free market mode until bhutto's nationalisation which completely ruined pakistan's economy. india operated in a socialist mode until early 90's when the country was bankrupt and was forced to change course by multi-lateral institutions which made policy reform the main condition of aid.

while india was reforming in the 90s, pak was suffering through mismanagement under democratic rule which further destroyed pak's economy and enabled india to catch up. also 90's saw the rise of the internet along with which came the success of indian i.t. companies which profited from labour arbitrage. pakistan, in comparison, has yet to produce an industry in which it has some sort of comparitive advantage when dealing with the west. however most studies show that pakistan's economy is more open than india's and more importantly pakistan has made rapid strides in the agriculture sector which is the most labour intensive section of the south asian economy. also generally speaking, purchasing power of pakistanis, as measured by stats like moble phone penetration, appears to be higher than that of indians.

going back to jinnah, his vision was almost prophetic. important to remember that during the days of jinnah, socialism was the weapon of choice of third world leaders. jinnah however wanted to plot a different course for us and that course was the right course as the example of countries like malaysia, korea and taiwan indicates.

the geek thread
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Does the killing of innocent on May 12 ring a bell. The worst that any leader has done recently.

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Jinnah has written very clearly that he wanted pakistan so muslims can live free of persecution. Antibol, where the h are you getting these notions that he did it for anything else? Do some basic reading atleast before exhibiting ignorance and espusing bs theories.Unless you're claiming Jinnah didn't know what he was talking about

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I want what antibol and the good king_faisal are smokin.

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So you want to ignore Jinnah's character about his pro-West anti-socialist views.

You also want to dump Mullah's staunch opposition of Jinnah.

Just to prove that you are right!

Wow! Tariq Sahib, you sure are in cahoots with anti-Jinnah elements.

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^
There's no ignoring the fact that the Mullahs of yesterday are what Westerners would today call "moderates", and what Jinnah espoused would be dismissed as nothing more than "Islamist" ramblings.

IN the end, for all his pro-Western views...Jinnah got the shaft. Not expecting Pakistan to ever be created (he was after autonomy within India, whereas the Mullahs were after a single polity within a united India), the good British decided to give Pakistan the poorest part of Bengal and Punjab.

Talk about throwing the old dog a bone.

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^ your deep hatred for Pakistan and Jinnah shows up in your racists and ugly comments. Such comments also show the poster's lower caste status. No wonder why Brahmins keep such people strictly under their "you know what".