I want to take it up.
Pro and con me.
I want to take it up.
Pro and con me.
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what do you mean by 'hijaab' ?
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Head covering. I already dress modestly.
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There are three requirements to modesty for dress code of a muslim woman;
1- Cover your bossoms
2- Wear length
3- modesty
The rest is cultural...
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^^^ but what about covering the head...is that cultural too?
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Funguy - I appreciate that , and I already do. However if more was undertaken it would be for my own errrr spirtitual betterment than obligation. I dont do anything for obligation until I think its fully correct. I want to reconnect with my God. I realise that faith has its ups and downs, and a wise person once descrbed faith patterns like a wave. However over the last couple of years (2 inparticular) I have deviated more than Imcomfortable with, resulting in religious emptyness. Not emplty- But I used to have a conenction with Allah miah - and its no longer so much there anymore. It is there, but not as I would want. So maybe, as they say - if I take a couple of steps towards him and try to better my faith, He will recognise my intentions and maybe then I wont feel so alone.
Its just an attempt, it maybe in vain - but its somthing Im thinking of. It helps sometimes to get more than one poit of view.
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If you come to think of it. the hijab as followed by muslims today is very similar to how Christian nuns dress up. I am not an expert on the subject but if you go strictly by the QUran, you don't see any requirement for head scarfs... Allah knows best.
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hiccup - if you follow the hijab code as described by mullah then you might get close to a mullah. To get closer to Allah, read the Quran first. And I mean really read it.
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Covering head is part of dress, For Muslim Men according to Sunnah of prophet Muhammad :saw: Sadly, I find it hard to follow this sunnah. May Allah grant me strength of Emaan to follow these sunnah. ameen
Can’t say about ladies, they know it better… but it indeed requires some courage, guidance from Allah to voluntarily cover more and dress modestly, specially when it is against the norm :k:
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^^^ I went to an Islamic talk once where they said men covering head is not obligatery
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Where did i say it is obligatory ? :-|
Sunnah, means what prophet used to do 'Generally' and asked followers to do the same...:)
eg.
eating drinking with right hand
brushing teeth five times a day
helping wives in household chores
giving alms frequently
praying in the middle of the night
And many more
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okey...daisy bows her head in shame
anyway I didnt say Obligatory
I said Obligatery which means something totally different!
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Here are a couple of verses in Quran (English translations by different people) that I found related to hijab:
Surah Nur (24:31)
YUSUFALI: And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.
PICKTHAL: And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or fathers or husbands' fathers, or their sons or their husbands' sons, or their brothers or their brothers' sons or sisters' sons, or their women, or their slaves, or male attendants who lack vigour, or children who know naught of women's nakedness. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And turn unto Allah together, O believers, in order that ye may succeed.
SHAKIR: And say to the believing women that they cast down their looks and guard their private parts and do not display their ornaments except what appears thereof, and let them wear their head-coverings over their bosoms, and not display their ornaments except to their husbands or their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or those whom their right hands possess, or the male servants not having need (of women), or the children who have not attained knowledge of what is hidden of women; and let them not strike their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may be known; and turn to Allah all of you, O believers! so that you may be successful.
Mohsin Khan: And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands fathers, their sons, their husbands sons, their brothers or their brothers sons, or their sisters sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.
Surah Al-Ahzab (33:59)
YUSUFALI: O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: O Prophet! say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Mohsin Khan: O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful.
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It seems funny that you want to “pro and con.” If you are convinced that Islam emphasizes it, then why do you have to think twice? Islam also means submission. Life becomes so easy when one starts submitting to Allah and His directions sent to us.
If you are not convinced then do some genuine reading of Islamic books. By the way, which school of Islamic thought do you follow?
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Ok, pros and cons..
Pros:
- if you do it for the sake of Allah (swt), you will be rewarded insha'llah
- if one believes in islam, then i think trying to follow all that it orders for us results in better peace of mind
- remember, all things ordained in islam usually do have worldly benefits too
- doing one good thing is usually a chain reaction, might lead you to other things which are good..
cons:
- you may be seen as a muslim fundamentalist :-P ..... but i daresay thats better than being a loser on the day of judgement..
btw, funguy is bullsh..ing a fair bit, its his new enlightened understanding that he cant wait to flaunt.. but if you want hijab requirements (so to say) discussed in more detail it can be done in another thread.
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A great many things seem funny to me. i.e how the larger majority of thread participants are men. But then I live a generally amused existance. I have read “islamic books” but all things are a matter of interpretation. getting more than one point of view was the reason I opened this thread. I am sure Islam emphasises modesty - which is to say - modesty in thought and behaviour and as an extention - clothing. However - the pros and cons are becasue I do not want to rush into a decision. Its important to me and thus I want to consider it carefully.
i know, Im a laugh a second.
amarr- danke. Im grateful to Funguy (and you) for taking the time out. Wheither or not his opinion is “BS” - is a matter Im not concerned with. I am sure he won’t have said anything that he thought would be detremental to me.
Danke again for the list ![]()
It is exactly that list of pros taht I is making me want to take up the hijaab.
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Sadiyah, thanks for that post on the different translations....it can really serve as a wonderful source for future reference on this excessively discussed topic.
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Shouldn't you work on fixing your personality first?
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Mashallah sai I am blessed with an amazing personality - illustracted aptly to people who matter. Coniving two faced bithes - children and idiots do not count in my list of people who matter.
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…if this thread is a way of getting back at people, its really working…![]()