Highschool doesnt mean ****?

I made decent grades in highschool, but this isnt about me. I know this lad, nice guy, but he got poor grades in highschool, C-D student, that sort of thing. Anyhow, he gradually got into university after a base course etc and ended up killing it off, graduated with flying colours-a 1st in Engineering.

Now he has a place for a research degree at Oxford, not Brookes, the real university. He breezed his interview, I mean waltzed in.

I am happy for the guy, he’s a really top bloke, but what does that say about the highschool system?

Someone who made such average marks is a few years later able to beat mad competition to waltz into Oxford of all places.

Did the system fail him, or is he a rarity-a late bloomer who was always able.

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For those who dont know, Oxford has about 15 applicants a place for most graduate courses.

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Some people start slow, I guess. and any which way, academic acheivements do not guarantee finanacial success in real life so why does it matter who is 4.0 GPA and who is not

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This is not about financial success. Its a question on the school system. Someone is obviously able, very able at that, and yet did poorly at school. Clearly there is something wrong....no?

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Einstein poerformed very poorly in his school days. Yes, I think that system is not perfect

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Not perfect!?

Its a disaster!

The only + side must be when he bumps into old teachers now. :D Egg on there face!

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news for you, even college doesnt mean anything :p... someone who worked their butts off for 3.8 is probably sitting at a cushy nice job with someone who got a 2.5 :D

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College is more reflective of ability then HS. This particular case just alarmed me. How can the system go so very wrong?

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That is what i think also, Miss Sara who is born on 5/16. BTW, my daughter's (16 months old) name is also Sara and born in May (may 2nd)

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Maybe the years during high school, he wasn't interested in studying? You are in ur teens, and everything else but studies seems more interesting. Maybe he hung out with the wrong crowd, got involved in other activities and then had a turn around to sort out his life, and work up to his potential. His getting into top notch school certainly doesn't imply he was dumb during high school.

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Oh of course not. I know the lad well, he's not stupid-never was. You dont become able though do you, intelligence is God given. He was a fairly good pupil (behavior etc) -despite the grades, he wasnt a lay about.

Perhaps some people dont take well to parrot style learning.

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I think it’s just your friend, man.

I mean I’m not saying highschool is the most important years of your life, but a student’s performance in school usually correlates with that in college. Just to give a general example, there’s studies that show that students who are placed in the lower, less-challenging classes from as far back as elementary school tend to stay at this intermediate level of education throughout their life in school. So typically if a student isn’t doing well in highschool courses they usually don’t do well in college.

And then there’s the issue of whether or not they are even able to get into a top-ranking college with such grades. If a student has a low GPA then they obviously won’t get into some of the better universities, which can give you major cred on your resume.

And finally, I’d rather not be told that the past 3 years of my life (and this upcoming year) have been nothing but a total waste. :phati:

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Its true that there is usually a correlation between HS performance and uni results, as the able people usually do well in both cases. The question here is how can someone so very able-as proven at college ect-do so very badly at school.

His fault? (not his character)

The schools fault?

Just one of lifes mysteries?

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You always get late bloomers. My best friend at school got a mixed bag of As, Bs, and Cs at GCSE. For A-levels he struggled in his first year to the point at which he thought he would have to resit the year, then put in a huge effort in the second year and scraped 3 Bs which got him into Electrical Engineering at King's College London.

Fast forward 4 years and he graduated with the best marks out of his year of 100 people. Not only that, but he was the head of about 4 KCL student societies including the Electrical Engineering Society (or something like that), and had managed to spend a year studying overseas. Top Fortune 100 companies were falling over themselves to try and offer him a job....

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^^

That's neat.

Its nice to see people silence critics, esp good blokes.

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Those who get their act straight will excel at academia or anything in life. It's all about discipline.The high school system is not to blame, it's the person himself.The opposite is true as well where people excel at school but when they get to University they drop out faster than you can say graduate.You're only as good as your last job.

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Could be.

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its both, there are issues with system there are diff people with diff learning styles and if they can not be accomodated they do poorly, on the otehr hand there are ppl who are late bloomers (read as people who were either not serious or did not have their priorities right)

The challenge is that how well you do in highschool sets your trajectory, it determines what type of uni you go to and what field, and then what opportunities you get after education. there are those who are exceptions, and then there are those who work like hell to change their trajectory.

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ur one of hte only few who actually gets that 516 is my birthday :sara:

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It all came to an end for me this summer, never thought i’d say it, but a part of me is missing the academic life and the joys that come with it. :hinna:

PS. Carry on.