Re: Hezbollah terror chief Imad Mughniyah killed in explosion
Um no, I was using sarcasm, a clever literary device of some sophistication that often goes undetected by the less skilled.
Mashallah anyway…
Re: Hezbollah terror chief Imad Mughniyah killed in explosion
That still hasn’t been proven to be done by Hezbollah. When you find the WMDs in Iraq, then MAYBE, I’ll give it some consideration.
Please underdadome, don’t pray to the pagan moon god. :nono:
Re: Hezbollah terror chief Imad Mughniyah killed in explosion
That still hasn't been proven to be done by Hezbollah. When you find the WMDs in Iraq, then MAYBE, I'll give it some consideration.
The Government of Argentina have stated they have evidence and had issued an arrest warrent for Mughniyah, 1 of the many reason Mughniyah had plastic surgery done.
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The Government of Argentina have stated they have evidence and had issued an arrest warrent for Mughniyah, 1 of the many reason Mughniyah had plastic surgery done.
Has the government of Argentina ended diplomatic ties with Lebanon, Syria or Iran based on this?
Re: Hezbollah terror chief Imad Mughniyah killed in explosion
Has the government of Argentina ended diplomatic ties with Lebanon, Syria or Iran based on this?
is this JayR? You are going off on tangents.
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is this JayR? You are going off on tangents.
No, I just want to know Argentina's subsequent actions after accusing Mughniyah. How is that a tangent?
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hezbollah to strike back
BEIRUT: Lebanon’s Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah declared “open war” on Israel in a fiery speech at the funeral on Thursday of a top commander killed in a car bombing he blamed on the Jewish state.
“Zionists, if you want this kind of open war, then let the whole world listen: Let this war be open,” he said in a eulogy broadcast on a giant screen at Imad Mughnieh’s funeral in the Hezbollah bastion of southern Beirut.
Nasrallah said that by killing Mughnieh in a car bombing in Damascus, Israel had taken its battle with the Iranian- and Syrian-backed militant group beyond Lebanon’s borders and should expect attacks anywhere. “You killed him outside our natural battleground,” he said. "Our battleground with you is on Lebanese territory and you have overstepped the border. “The blood of Imad Mughnieh will contribute to the disappearance of the Jewish state,” he added.
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=37504
the revenge will probably be bigger news, security council meetings, the full works
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hezbollah to strike back
Mistake on Hezbollah's part if they do, this might just be lip service to Mughniya's followers, most of whom have never spoken or seen him.
Some Hezbollah fighters criticize him for his actions saying that anyone can kidnap, but we are the ones on the battlefield actually fighting Israel.
I think Hezbollah will need to attack again because of future Israeli incursions into S. Lebanon.
Right now, they need to get Lebanon together and support S. Lebanon like they always have.
Re: Hezbollah terror chief Imad Mughniyah killed in explosion
Where is the proof?
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Where is the proof?
of israelli invovlement?
he is the third of his familly to be killed by israellis. he had two brothers killed in exactly same circumstances by israel. the fact that israel has done it is, i think, beyond doubt.
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I would call him a resistant chief rather a terror group! but i am not surprised knowing where you got your sources from!
Haaretz is such a pro israeili zionist paper! why would u even quote them were you run out of any other sources?
Inni lillahi rajaeon may his soul be welcomed in janat!
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of israelli invovlement?
he is the third of his familly to be killed by israellis. he had two brothers killed in exactly same circumstances by israel. the fact that israel has done it is, i think, beyond doubt.
bull crap,
I sat here after 9/11, and listened to a bunch of smart asses who insisted that the US find incontrovertible proof that OBL did anything before they would blame him. So either Hizbullah comes up with iron clad proof, and displays it to the world, or they apologize to Israel for the false allegations. God forbid they "retaliate" in any way before they explain to the world why they think the Israelis did it, after Israel issued a blanket denial.
Next we will talk about "root causes" which might have made this assassination perfectly understandable......
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bull crap,
I sat here after 9/11, and listened to a bunch of smart asses who insisted that the US find incontrovertible proof that OBL did anything before they would blame him.
i suppose the members have changed but the evidence hasnt been found yet. 9/11 remains murky at best even now. but we'll help you get obl, thats not a biggy
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So either Hizbullah comes up with iron clad proof, and displays it to the world, or they apologize to Israel for the false allegations. God forbid they "retaliate" in any way before they explain to the world why they think the Israelis did it, after Israel issued a blanket denial.
Next we will talk about "root causes" which might have made this assassination perfectly understandable......
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the biggy for us to see real eye to eye is sorting out the middle east mess the US has created with its support for a state which is never going to be accepted.
do you really think just implementing a state by force is going to pay off? it'll take the mighty US down with it if it has to. i say this even at a time when US and israelli power looks invincible. the strength of opposition is too strong for you. its a matter of time
israel is untenable
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Israel obviously killed him.
He died just like Al Salameh was killed in Beirut in 1979
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Wasn't he one of the most wanted ? And one who studied at the American University in Lebanon? Well MOssad and Cia did a great job I suppose, but that will only produce more of them. Killing is not an answer, otherwise people like Sharon should have been killed years before. But they do become President in the only Democracy of Mid-East!
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/fisk/rob…war-782031.html
Bloody end of man who made kidnapping a weapon of war
Robert Fisk
Thursday, 14 February 2008
It wasn’t the staring eyes, nor the way he picked up an apple in front of me and cut it open with such careful deliberation. It was the vice-like handshake, the steely grip that made my fingers hurt. “Imad Mougnieh,” he said, as if to show he wasn’t on the run, wasn’t afraid to use his real name.
Yes, he said, he was a “member of Islamic Jihad” – I knew very well he was the leader of the organisation, that he had arranged the kidnapping of so many Western hostages in Beirut – but he was in Tehran, in the upper floor of a luxury hotel. Safe from his enemies – but then again, that’s probably what he thought when he climbed into his car in Damascus on Tuesday night.
Mougnieh was an enemy of America, an enemy of Israel; the latter’s denial of responsibility for the car bomb that killed him will be seen by his supporters as a mere linguistic sleight of hand, and he knew the risks. His brother was assassinated in Beirut by a bomb meant for him and his own loathing for the CIA station chief in Beirut, done to death by Islamic Jihad after his 1984 abduction, was proof enough of Mougnieh’s war with the United States.
William Buckley of the CIA was kidnapped, Mougnieh told me, because he was controlling the then pro-American Lebanese government of President Amin Gemayel, whose army had been seizing thousands of Muslims, civilians and militiamen, some of whom were tortured to death.
I had gone to see Mougnieh to plead for the release of my close friend and colleague Terry Anderson, the Beirut bureau chief of the Associated Press, kidnapped in 1985 and subsequently held for almost seven years in sealed rooms and underground dungeons.
Mougnieh tried to reassure me. “Believe me, Mr Robert, we treat him better even than you treat yourself.” I shuddered. I didn’t believe that. I had heard this language before. How they respected the innocents they had so cruelly deprived of freedom, the very freedom they demanded for their own friends and supporters.
Maybe Mougnieh sensed that. When I asked about Terry – this was in October 1991, a month before he was released – Mougnieh cast those staring eyes upon me. They never left my face unless he wished to discuss a phrase or a sentence with his friends in the same room.
He prefaced his remarks with the opening words of the Koran – just as Islamic Jihad’s hostage messages and videotapes did. This was the man who had taken Terry and who would have taken me had the occupants of the shark-like cars that haunted the Beirut Corniche grabbed hold of me. He was utterly uncompromising.
“Taking innocent people as hostages is wrong,” he admitted to my astonishment. “It is an evil. But it is a choice and there is no other option. It is a reaction to a situation that has been imposed on us – if you want to ask about the existence of some innocent people among the hostages, then this question should not be posed to us alone, when Israel kidnapped and imprisoned 5,000 Lebanese civilians in the south of Lebanon in the Ansar camp.”
Israel had indeed imprisoned those men at Ansar after its 1982 invasion. Amnesty International had condemned the conditions under which they were held. “Most of the people in Ansar were innocent,” Mougnieh added – he did not define innocent – “and this is not even to mention the invasion itself and the killing of many people.”
Mougnieh, Lebanese by birth, was a man of frightening self-confidence, of absolute self-belief, something he shared with Osama bin Laden and – let us speak frankly about this – with President George W Bush. Islamic Jihad, it was said, tortured its enemies. So does al-Qa’ida. And so, as we all now know, does Mr Bush’s army.
Mougnieh – and again we should speak openly about this – was a valued, respected and senior figure in Iran’s security apparatus. “Islamic Jihad” was a satellite of the Lebanese Hizbollah, the old un-reformed Hizbollah, whose leadership would now like to forget – even deny – its association with abductions. In that sense, Mougnieh was a man of the past, pensioned off in Damascus, safer for the Iranians there rather than cosseted in a Tehran hotel room.
But back in his days as an intelligence officer, he was a powerful man. Because of the suffering he had caused Terry, I should have hated him. But I did not hate him.
In the course of our conversation, he would become angry, stabbing his right fist in fury as he condemned America for its support for Israel and for shooting down an Iranian Airbus civilian airliner over the Gulf in 1988. I had seen this kind of fury before, at cemeteries and at mass graves. If he had allied himself with Iran, his passion was genuine.
I pleaded for Terry again. Could he not feel compassion for my friend? Again, his eyes never left me. “Of course, it would be very easy to find the answer to this question if you had been the mother or the wife of one of the hostages in Khiam [Israel’s torture prison in southern Lebanon] or the mother or wife of Terry Anderson. My feelings towards the mental pain of Terry Anderson are the same as my feelings towards the Lebanese hostages in Khiam – or the mother or wife of Terry Anderson.” Amnesty had also condemned the tortures at Khiam.
By now, Mougnieh was already playing that most famous role in all US soap operas: America’s “number one enemy”. The US would not have been weeping if Israel did kill Mougnieh yesterday. America wanted Mougnieh dead or alive – and for all the usual reasons.
Not least was his involvement in the hijacking of TWA flight 847 from Athens to Rome in June 1985. Mougnieh was one of the gunmen on board and demanded the release of 17 Islamic Jihad members imprisoned in Kuwait and 753 Lebanese Shia prisoners held in Israel.
After wandering around the Mediterranean, the aircraft – almost all the passengers were American – eventually came to rest in Beirut where an American, Robert Stetham, was viciously clubbed over the face and body before being shot in the head and thrown from the plane in front of the world’s cameras.
I saw his body in the American University Hospital, grey-faced, hair tousled, lying next to a plump Palestinian woman who had just been shot in a gun battle between Shia militiamen and the PLO.
Shia Muslim Amal gunmen loyal to Nabih Berri – today, Lebanon’s pro-Syrian Speaker of Parliament – stormed the aircraft, hustled the hijackers and most of the passengers into vehicles and sped off into Beirut’s southern suburbs. All the passengers were released, but Mougnieh and his comrades were secreted off to Damascus – only to re-emerge in command of a hijacked Kuwaiti jet with similar demands and with an equally brutal assassination; that of a Kuwaiti fire brigade official at Nicosia airport.
Live by the sword, as they say, and you die by the sword.
Thus to the bomb attack in Damascus, not far from an Iranian school, close to a local Syrian intelligence office, explosives under Mougnieh’s own car and a body dragged from the vehicle by policemen.
Re: Hezbollah terror chief Imad Mughniyah killed in explosion
With this assassination, there goes the Terrorist Zionist regime's hopes of any conciliation with Syrians.
Re: Hezbollah terror chief Imad Mughniyah killed in explosion
With this assassination, there goes the Terrorist Zionist regime's hopes of any conciliation with Syrians.
Like that was going to happen with big daddy Iran pulling the strings
Re: Hezbollah terror chief Imad Mughniyah killed in explosion
Like that was going to happen with big daddy Iran pulling the strings
Mercenary, you must understand the mindset of such people. They are big guns themselves and they make deals with bid daddy not under them. It is a success for all the Zionists living out there and that was their main purpose. Not to make this world a safer place, but make Israel safer as ever and let them operate as freely as ever in their body count of Palestinian corpses.
Re: Hezbollah terror chief Imad Mughniyah killed in explosion
Mercenary, you must understand the mindset of such people. They are big guns themselves and they make deals with bid daddy not under them. It is a success for all the Zionists living out there and that was their main purpose. Not to make this world a safer place, but make Israel safer as ever and let them operate as freely as ever in their body count of Palestinian corpses.
But its funny, the daily body count of Palestinian Corpses, the Israelis are a meager 4th.
Leading the way is Lebanon which has also killed over 50,000 Palestinians
Followed by Syria which has killed over 20,000 Palestinians.
Followed by Jordan which has killed over 10,000 Palestinians
Israel comes at 4th with around 8,000 Palestinians killed