Re: Hezbollah Leader Vows to Fight on Behalf of Syrian Regime
They were in Egypt too...was Hosni Mubarik not sunni?
In that sense, they are in the US too.
You don't see the point. sigh.
Posting for the sake of posting. "Hajmula".
Re: Hezbollah Leader Vows to Fight on Behalf of Syrian Regime
"(Nusra) Little known a year ago but suspected of having being founded by al-Qaeda in Iraq, they have grown in stature, leading many of the rebels’ most successful recent battles. Last month they publicly declared their loyalty to al-Qaeda’s supreme leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri.
In taking Raqqa two months ago al-Qaeda achieved its greatest coup in the war to date: it was the first provincial capital to fall outright to the rebels, and allowed Jabhat to assume a leadership role over a large swathe of north-eastern Syria, to the Iraqi border.
Re: Hezbollah Leader Vows to Fight on Behalf of Syrian Regime
In that sense, they are in the US too. You don't see the point. sigh.
Posting for the sake of posting. "Hajmula".
No, I don't see your point. I don't think you have one to be honest.
Re: Hezbollah Leader Vows to Fight on Behalf of Syrian Regime
No, I don't see your point. I don't think you have one to be honest.
Qaeda supporters are everywhere in the world. Egypt would have some too.
But Qaeda focuses thrives in places which are out of control of government there. It thrives in anarchy and mayhem. It is these places where it commits its satanic work openly.
Syria being one unfortunate example, it became a lucrative point for them.
@Ma Mooli
Are you going to respond to my request?
To post footage of al nusras crimes? No i dont think so. But i will gather you a list of their crimes..so that you are aware that their crimes are alot more than hoarding weapons and demolishing holy shrines. They are equally brutal as assads men...supporting them is not the same as supporting the aspirations of the syrian people.
The SNC are some what irrelevant... Apart from the fact that they are so divided they cant agree on anything, when they do, they dont have any real power on the ground.
The FSA are complaining all thier men are running off to al nusra because they are better organised, well armed trained and funded, can look after their fighters, and most importantly; they are seen as the 'righteous' islamic group to fight and die for, as opposed to the fsa. They are going for the ideology.
Re: Hezbollah Leader Vows to Fight on Behalf of Syrian Regime
Interesting comment by Noam Chomsky in a recent interview.
What does Chomsky, who has infuriated some with his dismissal of the “new military humanism”, think should be done in Syria, if anything? Should the west arm the opposition? Should it intervene?
“I tend to think that providing arms is going to escalate the conflict. I think there has to be some kind of negotiated settlement. The question is which kind. But it’s going to have to be primarily among Syrians. Outsiders can try to help set up the conditions, and there’s no doubt that the government is carrying out plenty of atrocities, and the opposition some, but not as many. There’s a threat that the country is on a suicidal course. Nobody wants that.”
Re: Hezbollah Leader Vows to Fight on Behalf of Syrian Regime
Syrian civilians were all right before Saudis and Qataris created the mayhem by financially supporting khawarij in Syria.
False ... I have been aware of what has been going on before this was news ... And the first move was that the Syrian regime came heavy handed on a few civilian protesters. The civilians were not all right ... but under tense oppression.
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I don't think that is true conclusion. Qaeda is there because Alawites are not sunnis, and Qaeda sees an opening to impose its khariji ideology there. It has nothing to do with actions of regime. Qaeda itself is not known for any kind treatment of people under its control. Qaeda has gone anywhere there is anarchy. Be it Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Yemen, Chechnya, Somalia, OR Syria.
The jihadis only go to places where there is a war situation already occurring ... You would like it to be about the Alawites, but that is not true, rather the Alawite dominated Syrian regime has started a civil war.
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To support Asad the butcher just because he belongs to a certain sect is the root cause of today's muslims and posts in this thread prove that. We are no longer muslims and so long the despot is from our side of the sect it is ok even if our brother muslims are being killed. Shame on us. My view, all despots ruling in all the gulf states and Iran should be removed and the rule of majority should be established in all these countries regardless of which sect they belong to. Be muslims not shias and sunnis.
Re: Hezbollah Leader Vows to Fight on Behalf of Syrian Regime
To post footage of al nusras crimes? No i dont think so. But i will gather you a list of their crimes..so that you are aware that their crimes are alot more than hoarding weapons and demolishing holy shrines. They are equally brutal as assads men...supporting them is not the same as supporting the aspirations of the syrian people.
The SNC are some what irrelevant... Apart from the fact that they are so divided they cant agree on anything, when they do, they dont have any real power on the ground.
The FSA are complaining all thier men are running off to al nusra because they are better organised, well armed trained and funded, can look after their fighters, and most importantly; they are seen as the 'righteous' islamic group to fight and die for, as opposed to the fsa. They are going for the ideology.
Well the fact is that at the moment they are not the ones who are attacking the Syrian people ... To say anything else is absurd. And who is supporting them? I sure am not, but the Syrian people's think tank would at this stage rather settle for their control than allow Assad to continue his onslaught ... It is the difference between being harmed or the threat of being under zealous control ...
The most favourable end is to have the appropriate representation of the people in power, which will result in moderate Sunnis and Sunni/Sufi traditionalists ... Who have already made a clear charter to protect the Alawite civilians.
The best option is to disarm the regime, but instead Russia are bolstering them... I am not advocating e giving of weapons to anyone, rather encourage discussion to get proper leadership in place.
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Well, you think making fun of Quranic text is funny? Not surprised.
And the grave that was dug was not just any grave. It was the grave of a prominent Companion of Prophet. But obviously desecration of sites related to Islam is the cornerstone of their religion.
Dear khoji
I believe those people who think themselves to be the Hizb of Allah, but do acts in violation of that worthy title are the ones who are making fun of the Qur'an, not me ... I'm merely calling that same group by a more befitting name I have chosen for them ... Hajmola ... Sour, spicy and release of flatulence. i.e. light hearted humour
The true Hizbullah are known only to Allah (SAW) ... I hope and pray you and I both can be a part of it.
Re: Hezbollah Leader Vows to Fight on Behalf of Syrian Regime
You must have forgotten to take your pill today! 
Re: Hezbollah Leader Vows to Fight on Behalf of Syrian Regime
To support Asad the butcher just because he belongs to a certain sect is the root cause of today's muslims and posts in this thread prove that. We are no longer muslims and so long the despot is from our side of the sect it is ok even if our brother muslims are being killed. Shame on us. My view, all despots ruling in all the gulf states and Iran should be removed and the rule of majority should be established in all these countries regardless of which sect they belong to. Be muslims not shias and sunnis.
Very well said....
To support Asad the butcher just because he belongs to a certain sect is the root cause of today's muslims and posts in this thread prove that. We are no longer muslims and so long the despot is from our side of the sect it is ok even if our brother muslims are being killed. Shame on us. My view, all despots ruling in all the gulf states and Iran should be removed and the rule of majority should be established in all these countries regardless of which sect they belong to. Be muslims not shias and sunnis.
I dont know why i feel like im repeating myself here. This was NEVER a sectarian war, and it STILL isnt from assads iran and hizbullah pov. The opposition have only made it so by targeting christians, shias and alawites ( shia and alwaites are not the same fyi) so if your going to blame anyone for spreading sectarian, its wont be assad.
This is a war of the real axis of evil (america/israel/arabs )on one side with iran, hizb palestinians on the other side. Syria/al nusra/al qaeda are mere proxies. Its not too difficult to think of the bigger picture with out empathising with they syrian people.
But that is not same as supporting the real axis of evil.
Still its strange you can call assad a butcher, but not the opposition al-qaeda/fsa when they are documented by human rights watch. I think this is the real ROOT cause of the muslims today. Blind acceptance of whatever the popular narrative of the day is really.. Lapping up what the media/gov wants you to.
They lied to you once on iraq they will lie to you again. Iran is a popular topic to lie about in their media; simply because they are building up a case for a war. That is exactly what they did in iraq.. Do folks not learn anything from recent history?
Dajjal means liar for a reason. We have to see through that deception....Esp when our aakhirah is at stake here.
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^ So what are you saying, Asad is an angel, he is the ruler of that country, not by choice of people may I say, do you support him or condemn him, a straight yes or no. I am not influenced by anyone unlike people here and yes Asad is a butcher like other butchers in the Arab world. Blind acceptance of his innocence on your part shows what I said in my early post that we dont think as muslims but as Shias and Sunnis.
If he is as innocent as he is portrayed by some he could have gone for elections as soon as the protests erupted and proved his "massive" popularity. Why didnt he? Because he knew what the result would be. I have condemned every undemocratic ruler in Arab world, waiting for you to do the same.
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^ So what are you saying, Asad is an angel, he is the ruler of that country, not by choice of people may I say, do you support him or condemn him, a straight yes or no. I am not influenced by anyone unlike people here and yes Asad is a butcher like other butchers in the Arab world. Blind acceptance of his innocence on your part shows what I said in my early post that we dont think as muslims but as Shias and Sunnis.
??? Your previous post was implying this is a sectarian issue from assads side.. And any alliance is due to him being an alawite.. Which is simply not the case. You can accuse him of being a brutal dictator, but not allied to either shia or sunni sects.
No, Assad is not an angel and i have never claimed as such either, but neither are his opposition. Infact combined; they are positively worse. And that is the issue here.
The genuine opposition are powerless; al nusra are the real power on the ground whose agenda funnily enough has nowt to do with democracy. I doubt the syrians were looking for a saudi/taliban type democracy.
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If he is as innocent as he is portrayed by some he could have gone for elections as soon as the protests erupted and proved his "massive" popularity. Why didnt he? Because he knew what the result would be. I have condemned every undemocratic ruler in Arab world, waiting for you to do the same.
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Well yes he could have done all these things and he should have. But to be fair to him, he did actually offer to hold dialogue at the time, but the 'opposition' rejected it because they wanted him simply gone straightaway, which wasnt gonna happen without a fight.
He still plans to hold it this year i think, whether syrians will accept it or not remains to be seen. But the point is; compared to his opposition now; he is the lesser evil in comparison.
As for condeming undemocratic countries; why stick to the arab world? Lets condemn all of them; starting from the west.
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The Syrian rebels are armed by the US and NATO.
The Syrian Government is armed by Iran and Russia.
The Syrian rebels have foreign Al Qaeda members who fight on their behalf.
The Syrian Government has Hizbollah.
The Syrian rebels have chemical weapons which they have used.
The Syrian Government has chemocal weapons which they have used.
The Syrian rebels have committed human rights violations and war crimes
The Syrian Government has committed human rights violations and war crimes.
So who are the good guys exactly?
The rebels of course. Why because the West says so. Anybody who thinks the rebels have any form of legitimacy forgets what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan. The rebels are nothing more than a proxy.
Hezbollah Leader Vows to Fight on Behalf of Syrian Regime
/\ thank you for spelling it out.
Re: Hezbollah Leader Vows to Fight on Behalf of Syrian Regime
The military chief of the main umbrella group of Syrian rebels, the Free Syrian Army, has accused Hezbollah fighters of “invading” Syria in a BBC interview.
Gen Selim Idriss said that more than 7,000 fighters of the Lebanese Shia movement were taking part in attacks on the rebel-held town of Qusair.
Gen Idriss made an urgent appeal for more weapons “to defend our citizens”.
The UN Human Rights Council condemned government attacks on Qusair, and the involvement of foreign fighters.
Gen Idriss made an emotional appeal to Western powers on the BBC World Service’s Newshour programme, saying: " We are dying. Please come and help us."
He said the FSA was fielding less than 1,500 fighters in the fight for Qusair, armed only with light weapons.
More than 50,000 residents were trapped in the town and a “massacre” would occur if it fell, he added.
He also said he had received information that Iranian fighters were involved in the offensive.
**Asked about the presence of jihadist factions in the Syrian opposition, Gen Idriss said they formed “not more than 5-8% of all fighters in Syria” and that they had received excessive media coverage.
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However, he said that while he did not share jihadists’ ideology, he was not in a position to try to deter anyone who wanted to join the fight against President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.
“When you are going to support us with weapons and ammunition, we can give you any kind of guarantee that you need that these weapons will go to the right hands,” he said.
Gen Idriss also demanded that the Syrian opposition in exile stop internal wrangling and agree immediately to attend a peace conference scheduled for next month in Geneva.
Fierce offensive
On Wednesday, Syrian state media claimed they had seized a key air base in the fight for Qusair.
The Dabaa air base was seized after several hours’ fighting, according to Syrian military sources.
Hezbollah’s al-Manar TV showed tanks being deployed inside the air base and soldiers in the base’s hangars.
Fighting around Qusair has been raging for several days as government forces have mounted a fierce offensive to oust rebels from the town.
Correspondents say Qusair is a strategic conduit for the rebels, through which weapons and fighters can be transported from Lebanon, about 10km (six miles) away.
The town is also important for President Assad because it is located between Damascus and the Alawite heartland of the embattled government on the Mediterranean coast. And it is not far from the motorway linking the capital to the city of Homs.
The vote at the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva passed with 36 in favour, one against, and eight abstentions.
Syria’s key backer Russia called the resolution “odious”, but is not a voting member of the council this year.
The Council also called for an urgent investigation into alleged abuses in Qusair.
Only Venezuela voted against the resolution. Two delegations were absent.
The resolution - drafted by Qatar, along with the US and Turkey - also calls for immediate access for UN aid agencies.
Qatar is widely believed to be supporting opposition forces, some of them also foreign.
Before the vote, UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay called on foreign powers to stop “emboldening” the belligerents by providing weapons on both sides of the conflict.
“The message from all of us should be the same: we will not support this conflict with arms, ammunition, politics or religion,” she said in a statement.
Also on Wednesday, the US State Department demanded that Hezbollah withdraw its fighters from Syria immediately.
A spokeswoman, Jen Psaki, said their presence was “an unacceptable and extremely dangerous escalation”.