Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
First of all I don't hate Jews just Zionists!
Secondly....what do you think I want? Exactly the same thing that you stated....but are we getting that? No
Maybe you can eduacte us bigots how it can be achieved?....
We can learn a lot from these Zionists...and we should employ the same strategies that they deploy against us. They are not MAD....there is a reason behind their apparent madness.
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
Secondly....what do you think I want? Exactly the same thing that you stated....but are we getting that? No
Maybe you can eduacte us bigots how it can be achieved?....
We can learn a lot from these Zionists...and we should employ the same strategies that they deploy against us. They are not MAD....there is a reason behind their apparent madness.
All of these objectives can be achieved very easily
but first and foremost, Israel's right to exist has to be acknowledged
Hamas, Hezbollah, Lebanon, Iran and many other countries do not recognize it and support terrorist groups that attack Israel.
How is Israel going to make peace under such circumstances?
Israel's population is a liberal and leftist population. It is willing to make consessions but those concessions have to be rewarded.
It withdrew from Sinai in 1979 in exchange for peace with Egypt
It withdrew from Gaza and all it got were Rockets being fired from Gaza into Israel....
It wants to withdraw from West Bank and Give back the golan heights to Syria in exchange for a peace treaty with Syria....
And all Israel gets in return are pledges to destroy it and rocket attacks, suicide bombings that forces IDF troops to enter Gaza and Southern Lebanon and take on Hamas and Hezbollah.....
And then these same countries that want to destroy Israel claim how brutal Israel is that it is sending its armed forces into these areas....conveniently forgetting that it was they and their rhetoric which has stalled the peace process....
After it withdrew from Gaza and Southern Lebanon, its soldiers got ambushed and killed and kidnapped....
and you wonder why Israel is reluctant to make further withdrawls when this is the aftermath of these withdrawls.
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
The Palestinians have acknowledged the right of Israel to exist in the past.
In the past negotiation failed because Israel was not ready to give up even part of Jerusalem. The palestinians rightly thought it is better to have no agreement than give up Jerusalem.
Negotiations with Syria failed because Israel wanted to retain a peace of occupied land and the Syrians on a issue of principle refused.
Israel wants to have its cake and eat it. The only reason they are giving up Palestinian land is because they are worried that the Jews will become a minority in their own country if they do not return heavilly populated Palestinians areas like Gaza.
Whether Hisbullah...Hamas,,,or Iran like Israel is immaterial at this stage.
If agreement was reached with the Palestinians then all the other muslim parties including Pakistan would establish diplomatic relations with Israel. The principle parties are the Palestinians and the Israelis...if they reached agreement then if a third party objects or not is immaterial.
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
In the past negotiation failed because Israel was not ready to give up even part of Jerusalem. The palestinians rightly thought it is better to have no agreement than give up Jerusalem.
No, Israel was ready to give East Jerusalem back to the Palestinians but they also wanted full control of Temple Mount which included the Wailing Wall, which is Judiasm's most holy site.
Thats like asking Muslims to give up the Kabaa.
Again, you are wrong or mis-informed.
The issue lay in Lake Tiberius in which Israel get 30% of its fresh water supply. Israel was ready to give back the Golan Heights in exchange for peace with Syria and wanted to share Lake Tiberius with Syria but some more negotiations needed to be done but Hamas detonated suicide bombs in Israel which led to the hardline right wingers to come to power in Israel.
Again, peace was within reach and Hamas derailed it.
True and also the fact that most Israelis have acknowledged that they cannot continue to rule over large number of Palestinians for long and are now pledging to pull back from West Bank as well.
Again, this withdrawl from Gaza could have been achieved years ago if not for Hamas detonating suicide bombs in Israel and for Israelis putting national security ahead of peace making.
Not when Hamas and Hezbollah engage Israel in low intensity warfare which will drain Israel and Israel will have to make continued incursions into those areas to stop their rocket attacks, suicide bombings, etc....
The Palestinians do recognize Israel's right to exist, so does Egypt and Jordan but that hasnst stopped Iran and other fanatics to try to destroy it.
Even if Israel and Palestine make peace, it will take a full generation before the blood thirst of dead Israelis will be quenched from radical muslims such as Ahmedinijad.
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
No, Israel was ready to give East Jerusalem back to the Palestinians but they also wanted full control of Temple Mount which included the Wailing Wall, which is Judiasm's most holy site. QUOTE
I don't believe that was true but is was the other way around...the Israelis wanted control over the muslims third most holy site.
Regarding the negotiations with Syria....Clinton met Assad and had a meeting with him and but as Israel wanted to retain some land President Assad rightly on a issue of principle refused to budge. Some arrangements could have been made for water supply separately. Now Israel does not have oil but still gets it from somewhere... The same could have been with water....alternatives could have been found.
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
Buzdils like the dead Prez. Assad have no principles. If he did have some, he wouldn't have attacked Israel in the first place. Now you lose in the war, you accept whatever you get back via negotiations. Otherwise in this world, the winner takes all.
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
May God protect Nasrallah, the only person to stand up to Israel in Lebanon. God Bless Hezbollah.
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
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Great hero, he's god's gift to the people of Lebanon
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
Yes he is. His army protected my family in the South from being killed by Israeli terrorists. And our family is Maronite, not Muslim.
His organization has helped the South very much, can't say the same about Lebanon's central government.
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
The country's economy was hummering along nicely with 5% growth expected this year and then Hezbollah attacked Israel. I understand you believe that Hezbollah protected you and your family back in the 80's but that was 20 years ago, why would you support their most recent actions?
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
Granted I am biased in their favor because of what they did in the 80s, but they did much more as well. They actually helped our South region when the Sunnis and Christians in the central government refused to do so. The only reason people have sustenance, food to eat is because of Hezbollah. This isn't easy for most Americans to understand.
I support their actions because as a South Lebanese, I have to. Just like Americans support thier country and thier troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, I support Hezbollah and Lebanon. For me Hezbollah equals Lebanon. And I am not alone. More than half of Lebanon is with me. The other half who hates Hezbollah, are still indebted to them for the sacrifices they made for this country.
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
You can be grateful for their social services but to blindly support their terror acts because of them seems short sighted and rather childish.
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
Very similar to Talibanic tribals, i.e. before they went infected with Arabian-horse-flu (much more dangerous than bird flu).
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
How different is this from "I never supported invasion of Iraq, but now that they are there, I'll support them"?
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb’s enemies
why its kidnapping when its a israel soldier and arrest or kill when israel army capture any hizbullah or hamas guy.
set your standards right! hizb/hamas both at war with israel, they have taken POW, they should have killed them I suggest.
though they have provided excuse to israel, but I dont think Israel need any excuse to attack anyone around. they can make up anything even if doesnt happen.
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
people do run away from questions
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
I will answer it when I visit Religion section, can you answer this one ?
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
I can't speak for UTD, but from my perspective one position does not correlate to the other. Does that mean too that someone should also support LTTE or Shev Sena?
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
Those who say that (it wasn't me Captain) I would assume (I can only speculate) mean that they want the troops to be careful and not die. These same people who "support the troops" very well may have been at protests against the war.
DB blindly supports Hezbollah's terror because he's indebted to them? That's off the wall!
Re: Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah orders his warplanes to attack Hizb's enemies
The correlation is "patriotism/loyalty" IMO.