Asalam Alaykum every1,.well i have a bit of a dilemma. As part of my wrk i need 2 give an evaluative answer to this statement:-
“You do not need 2 go 2 the mosque 2 be a good Muslim”.
**I have 2 give my opinion on this and provide an alternative viewpoint too. **
i was just wondering if anyone could give me their viewpoints, epecially using the hadith, sunnah and qur’an 2 back it up. It would be really helpful. Jazak Allah
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Its like saying you don’t need to get a job to earn money. Sit at home, and it’ll fall from the sky…
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Thanks 4 that!
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First let me give the advantages, for even intending to go to the Mosque
1) From the ablution till you come back to your residence, you are rewarded
2) Every step you take towards the Mosque is equivalent to 10 good deeds or 1 but i feel former is right. Its the same for walking back also.
Once a sahaba's house was a good distance from the Mosque, so he shifted a place near to the Mosque, thats when the above Hadith was told by the Prophet sala Allaah alayhi wa sallam. The more distance Mosque is from the house its more advantageous.
3) This one is from Abu Huraira: Praying in Jamaah is equivalent to 27 good deeds
4) If you go out to the Mosque, you socialise with many Muslims thats other advantage.
All this are from authentic ahadith and from Sahih Bukhari.
Now how can i give an authentic hadith for you question You do not need to go to the mosque to be a Good Muslim. I cant, and I havent come across.
Allaah knows the best.
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Thanks brother Wasim,...appreciate that very much!
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um u DO need to go to the mosqueee
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W’salam
Bro I view this differently. 1st of all anyone can be good human regardless to ones belief. Now we do our salat ‘nimaz’ and that is for Allah, a very personal relationship between creation and creator.
As many says that nimaz keeps u away from wrong-doings, then ppl who goto mosque regularly 5times a day should be saints and free of all evil doings. But this isnt the case we see many of these ppl more corrupt than others who dont at all.
One should ponder and try to understand the realities and reason.
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Jazak Allah 4 that response,........i was thinking that a good muslim does not neccessarily have 2 go 2 mosque right?,.like say a woman has children, can't go to the mosque 4 her prayers and if she still prays 5 times a day at home,. fasts, follows the five pillars basically and follows the sunnah,......she is still a good muslim right?,.......so my viewpoint is gna be that i agree with the statement,..........and i'll use the other argument as the alternative viewpoint. I have 2 address the question u see, neway thanks 4 ur responses,....................
btw truthfinder i am not a brother,.lol,.........
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for women it is entirely different....they are excused from praying in congregational prays. The reason for this is often women are busy at home with their children and other resposibilites and it would be difficult for them to leave their homes to pray.
From the Islamic perspective it is said that "prayer at home is the best prayer for women." However Prophet Muhammed (SAW) said "do not prevent your women from going to the masjid if they ask for your permission"
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Can I ask whether this statement for evaluation came from a muslim or non-muslim. Replies should be based on the mindset of people it is going to.
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its coursework, set by an exam board,............figure!
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Not a good analogy. There is a difference between earning and making money which would be the alternative you are talking about here.
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If this statement concerns believing then I can partially say Yes however it implies for worshipping then No. For praying men should congregate in a masjid if there are no exceptions of hardships involved in getting there. If you don't go without a legitimate excuse according to the religion then you are sinning and falling in the category of a not so good muslim (just for arguments sake). However Zakat is an act of worship, which does require you going to the masjid and makes you a better muslim.
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btw truthfinder i am not a brother,.lol,.........
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Salam Sis Inzi,
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Jazak Allah 4 that response,........i was thinking that a good muslim does not neccessarily have 2 go 2 mosque right?,.
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Right
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like say a woman has children, can't go to the mosque 4 her prayers and if she still prays 5 times a day at home,. fasts, follows the five pillars basically and follows the sunnah,......she is still a good muslim right?
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as far as the subject remain prayers you are right.
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,.......so my viewpoint is gna be that i agree with the statement,..........and i'll use the other argument as the alternative viewpoint. I have 2 address the question u see, neway thanks 4 ur responses,....................
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cheers!
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Salam USresident,
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If this statement concerns believing then I can partially say Yes however it implies for worshipping then No. For praying men should congregate in a masjid if there are no exceptions of hardships involved in getting there.
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The question is does going to mosque makes a better muslim? Prayers is not the subject.
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If you don't go without a legitimate excuse according to the religion then you are sinning and falling in the category of a not so good muslim (just for arguments sake).
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and who authorises this ?
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However Zakat is an act of worship, which does require you going to the masjid and makes you a better muslim.
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Please explain how zakat is equal to worship and how does zakat requires going to mosque.
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The question is does going to mosque makes a better muslim? Prayers is not the subject.
and who authorises this ?
Please explain how zakat is equal to worship and how does zakat requires going to mosque.
W salam
A vague question can only get vague answers. The questioner did not specify whether this is for a male or female. So I answered assuming this is meant for a male, only natural since I am one.
Prayer and mosque are like the blood flowing in your vain. Mosques exist for prayers and people goto the mosque primarily for prayer with the exception of women. Again my answer was male-oriented.
Is your reply based on the perspective for male or female.
Zakat was just an example when practiced makes you a good muslim and has little to do with going to the mosque.
With all due respect the question put forth in this thread is senseless and will get such responses.
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Salam USresident,
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A vague question can only get vague answers.
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Ones level of thinking is appearnt by his/her judgement.
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The questioner did not specify whether this is for a male or female. So I answered assuming this is meant for a male, only natural since I am one.
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Let me repeat the question for your remembarance;
"You do not need 2 go 2 the mosque 2 be a good Muslim".
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Prayer and mosque are like the blood flowing in your vain.
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So?
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Mosques exist for prayers and people goto the mosque primarily for prayer
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Good point!
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with the exception of women. Again my answer was male-oriented.
Is your reply based on the perspective for male or female.
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Since question never mentions gender your orientation is irrevalent.
QUOTEZakat was just an example (5)when practiced makes you a good muslim and(6) has little to do with going to the mosque.
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this is for public to see what you said in your previous post
QUOTEHowever Zakat is an act of worship, (2)which does require you going to the masjid and (3)makes you a better muslim
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Can you please explain your logic ?
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With all due respect the question put forth in this thread is senseless and will get such responses.
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No comments.
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Inzi_rocks:
"You do not need 2 go 2 the mosque 2 be a good Muslim".
In my opinion, the statement is true. One does not need to go to the mosque to be a good Muslim though it is better to go to the mosque as it makes a good Muslim, a better Muslim.
From what I understand: There are two basic parts of Islam, Huquq-ul-Allah and Huquq-ul-Ibad.
Huquq-ul-Allah:
Part one: Imaan (believes)
For a Muslim, one need to have Iman [Believe on Allah, Prophets {Muhammad (SAW) and prophets (AS) mentioned or not mentioned in Quran, thus, it is general belief on Prophets}, Angels, books of Allah (Quran and books mentioned or not mentioned in Quran), Judgment day, Hell/Heaven and that all what happens is in the hand of Allah]. Kalma tayeba (There is no God but Allah and Muhammad (SAW) is the messenger of Allah) is part of Imaan and door of Islam.
Part two: Fard (Obligations towards Allah)
Other then Imaan, one need to fulfill obligations towards Allah (huquq-ul-Allah), that is:
Salat (if capable), Zakat (if due), Fasting (if can) and Hajj (if affordable). [Note: One can perform 5 times obligatory Salat anywhere suitable and one does not need to go to Mosque]
Rest (including going to Mosque for salat) are accessories that if one adds (with good intentions), one would become better Muslim (not just good Muslim). Obviously, it is better that if one can, one should go to Mosque for salat.
Apart of Iman, if one does not manage to fulfill obligations then one is still a Muslim but not a good Muslim. If one does not believe (does not have Iman) and still fulfils the obligation, those obligations are worthless.
Part three: Fard-e-Kafaia (community obligation towards Allah, that is obligation fulfilled if a part of Muslim community fulfils that).
Most important of that is Jihad (fighting for Allah if need arises) and calling towards good while obstructing evil (without creating fitna/inteshar), thus some part of them both can be done by any Muslim while other parts can only be done by those in power, though without forcing anything on anyone.
Huquq-ul-Ibad:
Fard Huquq-ul-Ibad (Obligations towards other Humans)
This part is numerous and to write it down (and explain fully) would take long time but one should be aware of it as it is fard at all time, and there are plenty pitfalls that one can fall unknowing without realizing the consequences on judgment day.
Even though Huquq-ul-Ibad is after Huquq-ul-Allah, it is most important. Most people that would go to hell are due to misusing or not fulfilling Huquq-ul-Ibad. Just remember that on the judgment day, most rather all people would come with more sins then goods. Sins related towards Huquq-ul-Allah and Huquq-ul-Ibad.
Allah created all of us and gave us opportunities and environments. Allah is not partial and when judging us, would take into account everything (from: where we were born, on what religion and how we led our life according to circumstances, surrounding and opportunities). Not believing that (what many so-called Muslims, including so-called many Muslim scholars like to believe) means that believing that Allah is partial.
On the judgment day, the most magnanimous and forgiving being would be Allah. Allah is needless of anything human can offer and regardless, it is Allah that gave us characters and opportunities that leads people towards different behaviours, thus one can expect anything forgiven on judgment day from magnanimous and forgiving Allah, is understandable. For Allah, no sin is greater then his magnanimousness and forgiveness (and even proclaimed kafirs would hope (and could expect) forgiveness from his creator on judgment day). This forgiveness from Allah would be towards Huquq-ul-Allah not Huquq-ul-Ibad and there is a reason for it.
One should remember that even to Humans, Allah throughout encourages forgiveness, however bad the injustice maybe and encouraged that by promising huge rewards for forgiveness. If Allah want to rewards his creations for forgiveness, one can imagine how much Allah loves forgiveness and to expect that Allah would not do that himself, is in reality doubting the forgiving character of Allah.
[For example: Suppose I have a slave and tells him that if he does not come to work tomorrow at 10 am, I would not only going to punish him but would throw him out of the house he and his family is living. I also told him that because of that, he would suffer all his life. On the other hand, I also told all that I am very forgiving.
Next day when that slave comes late, I am not bound to punish him. It is possible that my forgiving nature might compel me to forgive him and I would. That would not mean that what I said in the first place regarding punishing my slave was wrong but it was unsaid conditional that it would happen if I would not forgive him.
Now Allah is more forgiving and do not get anything from punish ment of anyone (Allah is not sadist). Thus, even though Allah said that he would punish those disobedient indefinitely, he never said that he could not forgive them before even punishment starts and considering his Rahmaniyet, anyone gives up all expectation regarding Allah forgiving, would be kufr.]
Thus, Huquq-ul-Allah, whatever that maybe, it is possible, at least plausible that Allah may forgive even to its entirety. Allah has said for sinners that they will abode in hell forever but never said anywhere that he will never ever forgive them. He is not bounded by any laws or answerable to anyone and thus can forgive anytime he likes to whosoever he likes. It is possible/plausible that he might forgive all sins that are to do with Huquq-ul-Allah though would use good deeds earned by fulfilling Huquq-ul-Allah to compensate sins of a person Huquq-ul-Ibad.
It is also plausible that Allah might forgive Huquq-ul-Allah before a person getting to hell and thus, all benefit. Though those fulfilled Huquq-ul-Allah would have good deeds that they will use to compensate their sins due to Huquq-ul-Ibad.
As for Huquq-ul-Ibad, there is no let up there. All human being would find themselves in need of others good deeds and giving them their own bad deeds. Allah would decide what sins (related to Huquq-ul-Ibad) deserves what weight in goods.
On judgment day, even mother would not let her son get away from her Haq over him that he did not fulfilled on this worldly life. Girls (sisters) whose brother cheated them of their inheritance right would get it back from their brothers by transferring their bad deeds on them and sending them to hell. Even kafirs killed or harmed unjustly and unnecessarily by zealost so-called Muslims would be quick to transfer their sins on that so-called idiot and would send them to hell, benefiting from any good deeds that so-called Muslims did as compensation of injustice towards them.
[Note: Kafir or Muslim, animal or plants, all are creation of Allah and all will stand equally in front of Allah expecting forgiveness from Allah and demanding justice from Allah that are related to them and other of Allah creations. On judgment day, all creation of Allah will get justice and Allah would be fair just.
That is the reason a person should make sure that if he/she has done anything wrong towards other (not fulfilled or misused Huquq-ul-Ibad), he/she should take forgiveness in this life as that is possible here but after death of the victim, it would be impossible and on judgment day one would have to compensate the victim with own good deeds]
One can say that Allah is forgiving and generous beyond our imagination so one can expect even complete forgiveness from him regarding Huquq-ul-Allah. One should note that this is expected but not granted belief, based on the belief that Allah’s is more magnanimous and forgiving then punishing, especially for something that is directly related to him and not towards the rights of other of his creation. [His Rahmaniyet overshadows his Jalaliyet]
Now, Allah is just and fair and being just, Allah has given the right of forgiveness of Huquq-ul-Ibad to people concerned (taking his hand off from forgiving that aspect of sins). Obviously, if he would have started forgiving sins related to Huquq-ul-Ibad then that would have been injustice to whoever suffered.
As for humans, on judgment day, all would be needy. Being needy, none would forgive anyone and thus, all who done wrong towards others (holding, misusing or not fulfilling Huquq-ul-Ibad) would suffer the consequences.
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Ones level of thinking is appearnt by his/her judgement.
Let me repeat the question for your remembarance;
"You do not need 2 go 2 the mosque 2 be a good Muslim".
So?
Good point!
Since question never mentions gender your orientation is irrevalent.
this is for public to see what you said in your previous post
Can you please explain your logic ?
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W salam
Sir, a persons questions can also reflect their level of intelligence.
The question will have varying answers based on who you assume it for. A philosophical questoin will not end up with factual answers otherwise it is no longer philosophical. You cannot answer a question like this without a factual premise. You can theorize all you want however it will not come close to the reality.
Zakat is something that makes you a better muslim and you don't necessarily have to goto mosque for it just like the question asked. That simple. If you clean up the cobwebs in your head you might understand how simple and true my answer is.
Anyway, I don't want to waste time. This thread has little value add to it. Enjoy your discussion here.
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Salam,
Fine
Actually the question is practical since its surrounded by facts, anyway.
Zakat is something that makes you a better muslim and you don’t necessarily have to goto mosque for it just like the question asked. That simple. If you clean up the cobwebs in your head you might understand how simple and true my answer is.
What is zakat and how it is related to mosque?
Anyway, I don’t want to waste time. This thread has little value add to it. Enjoy your discussion here.
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w’salam