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Re: Am I a confused Christian?

@kchughtai

^^ It was ok when you were projecting examples of plants, iblis and god knows what. Were you comparing Isa (as) with these? Stop being a smart ass. You are not the high gatekeeper of our beautiful religion so stop telling us what is in and out of the religion.

Let me make it very clear to you and mr. popat as well so that this thing doesn’t popup again and again that our beliefs including belief regarding death of Isa (as) is not founded in science but in Quran itself and science, reason and logic supports it.
Why don’t we believe that Jesus (as) is alive up in the heavens. Several reasons:

1. There is quranic evidence that Isa (as) indeed has died. **Quran clearly says that all the messengers before the holy prophet (pbuh) have passed away.
   **2) Bodily ascension to heavens is against Quran. When people demanded from the holy prophet (pbuh) that he should go to heavens and come back with a book. Allah asked him to reply as Allah is pure of (such frivolities) and he (pbuh) is a mere human and a messenger.
2. Dwelling in heavens without aging and without needing food is against Quran and reason
3. As per Quran, Allah has ordained Earth as the dwelling place for humans
4. And many others

I don’t want to aimlessly debate this issue but my purpose is make a point that our belief that Jesus (as) didn’t ascend to heavens physically and he has died like rest of the messengers, is not just a rhetoric or based on reason and logic but also on evidence from scripture as well. You can keep on following your version. no problem

My examples were showing the capability and diversity of life not being divine based on age … Mr.Popat suggested that miracles are normal processes we find out later through science …

The Qur’an never says that ALL messengers have passed away before Muhammad (SAW) …

My version is the version I have taken from our schools of 'aqeedah … your version is not orthodox.