Well, from Saddam’s palace some documents have been seized… now there is the ‘evidence’. There are plans, maps of “C-WMD” whereabouts etc.
Changez_like, it doesnt say in that link that plans or maps of WMDS were found in that palace. Just mentions “important documents”. Do you really think that Saddam and buddies would leave such documents some 56 miles away in some deserted palace for US to come and find?
However check this. This could be of some interest:
**Officer: Troops Find White Powder Vials **
NEAR BAGHDAD, Iraq - U.S. troops found thousands of boxes of white powder, nerve agent antidote and Arabic documents on how to engage in chemical warfare at an industrial site south of Baghdad, a U.S. officer said Friday.
Col. John Peabody, engineer brigade commander of the 3rd Infantry Division, said the materials were found Friday at the Latifiyah industrial complex just south of Baghdad.
“It is clearly a suspicious site,” Peabody said.
Peabody said troops found thousands of boxes, each of which contained three vials of white powder, together with documents written in Arabic that dealt with how to engage in chemical warfare.
He also said they discovered atropine, used to counter the effects of nerve agents.
5Abi
But the most convincing part of the find is this:
'The facility had been identified by the International Atomic Energy Agency as a suspected chemical, biological and nuclear weapons site. U.N. inspectors visited the plant at least a dozen times, including as recently as Feb. 18'.
Nothing was found in over 12 visits, but something is found by the Americans in one!
Whatever next?
well chalk down another one .. the ‘suspicious powder’ siezed north of Baghdad turns out to be… drumrolls… plain old explosives.
The BBC was reporting that US soldiers had visited/taken control of the top 10 places where they had previoulsy claimed there was WMD, but found NOTHING. But be prepared for some timely plantings in days to come...
Sorry folks, here’s the full link:
well, what are the brittains still doing there then? get out!
Vials ‘not chemical weapons’, BBC, 5 April 2003
The US military says one sample they found was labelled “tabun”
Initial analysis of a white powder found in thousands of boxes near the Iraqi capital indicate that it was not a chemical weapon, a US officer is quoted as saying.
A special team was sent to investigate the discovery at Latifiya - part of a large military complex frequently visited frequently by UN weapons inspectors before the war began. “On first analysis it does not appear to be a chemical that could be used in a chemical weapons attack,” Colonel John Peabody told Reuters news agency.
Colonel Peabody, commander of the Engineer Brigade of the 3rd Infantry Division, said most of it appeared to be the chemical antidote atropine, and another chemical. Further tests are to be carried out.
Military officers also said they discovered documents in Arabic, which apparently explain how to carry out chemical warfare. US troops also reportedly found a second site nearby containing vials of unidentified liquid and white powder. Meanwhile, US Marines started digging up suspected chemical weapons hiding place about 80 kilometres (50 miles) south-east of Baghdad, Reuters reported.
The agency said the troops were checking a girls’ school, after a man - said to be a former member of the Iraqi special forces - told them that groups of Iraqi men had hidden something in the school courtyard two months ago.
The Iraqi authorities have not commented on the finds so far. They have denied hiding chemical weapons and other weapons of mass destruction from UN inspectors. When hostilities end, there will be huge pressure on the US and UK to find Saddam Hussein’s alleged chemical weapons - the supposed reason for going to war - BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner says.
If they don't find any WMD it will undermine their whole case for going to war against the will of the world, and will lead to considerable domestic troubles for the US-UK terrorists. They will never let that happen so prepare for some timely and planted discoveries down the line.
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If they don't find any WMD it will undermine their whole case for going to war against the will of the world, and will lead to considerable domestic troubles for the US-UK terrorists. They will never let that happen so prepare for some timely and planted discoveries down the line.
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I do think there should be a nuetral party with any Brit's or Americans looking for WMD's to satisfy those that would believe U.S./U.K. would plant them.
Perhaps an Iranian scientist might be a good idea. I think it would.
Supposedly Brits have found suspicious location at/near a school that they suspect might have a weapons catch below, or new walls built. But to be fair? Would WMD's stockpiles have been buried underground to dispose of them?
Unknown if the rumored location has been escavated yet...but I think if they find anymore such things it would be wise to have a nuetral party involved, or they should map and photograph the area for later exploration with nuetral parties once the War is over.
What do you think?
Changez,
Seems to me your under the impression that America/Americans are liars.
Saddam’s bad reputation is nothing more than a bid to assasinate his character.
It was wrong of the U.N. to impose sanctions on Iraq to effect a peaceful solution to the problem.
Not important that the Iraqi’s be free, Saddam should remain in power, even though he has murdered more of his own people than the 1991 war and the war today combined?
And the U.S. is intent on Iraq’s oil. hmmmm you mean they wouldn’t sell it to us if we wanted to buy it?
And the U.S. shouldn’t consider Iraq a threat to U.S. security because he is not associated with Al Quada. That I might agree on, however he does support terror activities in Israel which in turn are directed to the U.S. by groups like Al Quada.
And how do you know your not led to believe what you believe? In fact, I would hazard a guess that you are. Plenty of Imams out there telling you what you what to believe.
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If they don't find any WMD it will undermine their whole case for going to war against the will of the world, and will lead to considerable domestic troubles for the US-UK terrorists. They will never let that happen so prepare for some timely and planted discoveries down the line.
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Lately less and less are spoken by the invading force spokesmen about WMD's being the reason for the invasion, larger emphasis is being placed on the liberation of Iraqis being the issue. If no WMD is found, the USA and British governments won't admit they were wrong. For the same reason NONE of the pro-war supporters (mainly USA supporters) will admit THEY were wrong.
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Lately less and less is spoken by the invading force spokesmen about WMD's being the reason for the invasion but rather the liberation of Iraqis. If no WMD is found, the USA and British governments won't admit they were wrong. For the same reason NONE of the pro-war supporters (mainly USA supporters) will admit THEY were wrong.
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Old Man,
If it's proved that Iraq cease and desists all WMD programs sinse 1998 when the first group of U.N. inspectors left the country, I will be the first to admit the wrongness of entering Iraq.
Even though I think the Iraqi people will be better off in the long run.
errrrr… 
So no WMD discovered yet? Doesn’t that kind of defeat the whole official purpose of invading Iraq.
Nadia it was never bout "finding WMDs" was it ;)
The government-media propaganda was able to convince the people that Iraq is an imminent threat and that Iraq was responsible for September 11 and it was accomplished in about four months.
Even tho there was never a statement that Iraq is going to invade the United States or that it carried out the World Trade Centre attack. It was just insinuated, hint after hint, until they finally got people to believe it.
Now Bush says "while providing security for ourselves, we are liberating the people of Iraq" :) (he is talking bout killing 2 birds with one stone). What a joke!
5Abi :) i agree.
Notice my inclusion of the word "official", as i did/do not believe that WMD is the genuine reason for this invasion.
>>..."while providing security for ourselves, we are liberating the people of Iraq" :) (he is talking bout killing 2 birds with one stone). What a joke!<<
Neither has he provided security nor liberation. Genuine liberation does not signify having an American general pull the strings of power from Baghdad while a suitably-enough Iraqi looking man appears for the sake of the cameras and reporters (a la Hamid Karzai). Security? i am not certain what the recent bombing in the McDonald's at Beirut is evidence of, except that Bush has succeeded in making the US, UK, and their perceived "symbols" more of a potential target. Bush will be remembered long after his term in office ends - but his legacy may be different than what he and Laura Bush would hope for. He will be remembered for riding roughshod over international laws, for increasing regional and global insecurities and for making the US less secure and more of a target for extremist orgs. In my opinion, this will be his legacy.
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Did we sign a treaty not to?
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Does it make a difference whether US signs a treaty or not - You tear it up as and when you feel like it (KYOTO? ABM? ICJ, ...) or just don't bother to stick to it even if you do not tear it up (WTO - steel tariffs, ...)
Peace.
If no WMD'S are found and you admit the wrongness of entering Iraq.
How do you propose to bring back the lives of those who are dead?
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I do think there should be a nuetral party with any Brit's or Americans looking for WMD's to satisfy those that would believe U.S./U.K. would plant them.
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There was - the UN inspectors, whose work the Anglo-American invasion terminated...
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If they don't find any WMD it will undermine their whole case for going to war against the will of the world, and will lead to considerable domestic troubles for the US-UK terrorists. They will never let that happen so prepare for some timely and planted discoveries down the line.
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Unfotunately, if they don't find WMD, they will plant them, and pretend to find them.