AAG, So does this sanction limit apply to the US as well?
again, can we limit this discussion to WMD? I'm sure we can discuss what's good for Iraqis in other threads? :)
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*Originally posted by sholay: *
AAG
You really do amaze me.
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Why is that Sholay?
What amazes me is that people believe that the U.S. would plant weapons of mass destruction.
What have we done to you?
AAG
And that the Iraqi people would be better off without Saddam?
No.
It's you who have kept up the sanctions and made the lives of the Iraqis a living hell. And instead of lifting the sanctions you decide to lift their lives!
Saddam might have followed a certain regime over the last 20 odd years, but Bush is no different.
Would not the Americans be better off without Bush?
Why don't you change your way of life and follow ours?
Because that is exactly what you are saying to the Iraqis!
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*Originally posted by Judge^MentuLL: *
AAG, So does this sanction limit apply to the US as well?
again, can we limit this discussion to WMD? I'm sure we can discuss what's good for Iraqis in other threads? :)
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Whats there to discuss? The big bad U.S. planting weapons in Iraq because we want to steal their land???? Come on. Give me a break.
Either they find em or they don't. I think they will. If they don't U.S. will owe some pretty big reparations to the Iraqi people.
The sancton limit does not appy to the U.S. as they were a result of Iraq's agression to Kuwait as well as Saudi-Arabia and Israel. Remember them flying of scud missles in 1991?
Sholay,
If it were my decision I wouldn’t have chosen war. But I also believe that if the admistration felt that they had another choice they would have taken it.
U.S. thought Saddam would cave due to the sanctions. Instead it blew up in our face, hurt people that were never intended to be hurt, and was of benefit to Saddam politically.
That doesn’t mean Saddam is a good guy. Saddam has tortured and killed his own people.
Do you think the Iraqi people want to live under a dictatorship like Saddams where they are helpless to do anything about it?
Doesn’t mean Iraq is gona be the 51st state or that we even want that. Its up to them and under Saddam they aren’t given a choice.
It’s for economic security of the U.S. as well. We need mideast oil economically. Pretty much the whole world does actually. Doesn’t mean that economic security is only good for the U.S. because we import more goods then we export which benefits other countries as well.
Its for security of not having another 9/11 and being attacked without warning.
Eventually the Iraqi’s will choose the government they want. Not by coercian. I believe that. 
Anyway I guess I’m off topic.
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*Originally posted by AvgAmericanGirl: *
Its for security of not having another 9/11 and being attacked without warning.
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Why is it so hard for you to grasp that this latest adventure in Iraq (and beyond) will not produce more Vietnams, Mogadishus and Nine one-ones. And 100s of OBL as someone recently said? What will you do for your security then? Bomb every country?
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Why is it so hard for you to grasp that this latest adventure in Iraq (and beyond) will not produce more Vietnams, Mogadishus and Nine one-ones. And 100s of OBL as someone recently said? What will you do for your security then? Bomb every country?
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Just because that is someones opinion doesn't make it fact.... Unless you want it that way.
The Osama's in the world do, I know that. Doesn't mean it has to be that way.
Afghanistan is not over yet. There are still troops there waiting for the country to become stable. Probobly will be for while. Doesn't mean it won't eventually become a thriving country again. Will just take time. Doesn't happen overnight.
Same with Iraq. Gona take time. Doesn't mean it won't become a thriving self-determined country.
Let me explain what I meant with a pic:
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Is that what they teach you in school 5Abi? The U.S. is responsible for all the ills in the world?
Or is that you'd like every country in the world to bomb us?
The picture's pretty easy to understand!
AAG
Unfortunately for you it's true.
The US has a major hand in all the ills of the world, because at some time or another, they were involved.
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*Originally posted by sholay: *
AAG
Unfortunately for you it's true.
The US has a major hand in all the ills of the world, because at some time or another, they were involved.
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Ok Sholay,
Whatever you were taught or know of American's must be true. Our objective in life to to hurt other people.........yeah right!
Forget the Worldbank, WorldFood Program. Forget any effort the U.S. has ever participated in to improve peoples lifes.
So your from the U.K.? So your still mad about losing the colonies?
Re: Have they found WMD yet...
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*Originally posted by Abdali: *
Hello guppie folks,
I am out of town with limited access to the net... thought I drop by and check whats the latest... Have they found WMD yet? I don't think so coz there is no hala-gula on GS so seems like they still looking.... What about Kim I hear he fired another one towards Japan... LOL...
See ya folks next week.
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Hey....
Maybe Kim shot off that SuperCold affecting asia.
assalamoalikum 
america hasn’t found w.m.d but itself has used a weapon of mass destruction, banned uranium shells in al najaf, hypocrites 
We used banned weapons? Haven’t heard that. I do know depleted uranium was used in 1991. Haven’t heard it was used again.
Did we sign a treaty not to?
*Originally posted by AvgAmericanGirl: *
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If it were my decision I wouldn’t have chosen war. But I also believe that if the admistration felt that they had another choice they would have taken it…
This is what you are led to believe, blatant lies.
U.S. thought Saddam would cave due to the sanctions. Instead it blew up in our face, hurt people that were never intended to be hurt, and was of benefit to Saddam politically.
How innocent. On one hand US govt knew that Sad-dam is “evil”, “dictator” and on the other hand US thought that he would cave in.? 
That doesn’t mean Saddam is a good guy. Saddam has tortured and killed his own people.
Have you seen movie “Enemy of the state”? Do you know anything about “character assasination” and how it is used? Yes Saddam is bad guy, but he didn’t turn so bad in recent years, its a LOOOOONG history of which US is also a big player.
Do you think the Iraqi people want to live under a dictatorship like Saddams where they are helpless to do anything about it?
So the global cop will free other nations too?
Doesn’t mean Iraq is gona be the 51st state or that we even want that. Its up to them and under Saddam they aren’t given a choice.
I don’t think Iraq will ever be made 51st state, US will NEVER do that. It will maintain control directly or indirectly without declaring its state.
**It’s for economic security of the U.S. as well. We need mideast oil economically… **
This is the biggest factor in this war.
**Its for security of not having another 9/11 and being attacked without warning. **
MEDIA=Make Everyone Dumb In America. There has been no link of Iraq with Al-Qaeda, accept that both names share “A” and “Q”.
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We used banned weapons? Haven't heard that. I do know depleted uranium was used in 1991. Haven't heard it was used again.
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.Haven't heard it was used again
haven't heard cos the western news channels (fox, cnn, sky news, bbc. itn, euro news etc) are only reporting the news which favours the americans and british. watch the arab channels for all the hardcore facts.
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We used banned weapons
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it ain't the 1st time, in nam' america gased the ppl in a town, don't know wats its called and ppl to date are still suffering from diseases caused by the american army from that substance.
You bomb a nation for possessing WMD, and you use WMD in bombing. Then you come back to ask why use of WMD was wrong?
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Do you think Saddam would spring the money for chemical suits for his army? I guess I underestimate this Iraqi adhereness to safety procedures and their concern for their soldiers or citizens.
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so why do yo u think these suits were for?
AAG
As I stated before.
Each ill has had your and in it, therefore the burden of blame must be taken.
Once you get to realise the true nature and logistics of how the World Food Programme, World Bank, IMF and other instituitions which the US control work. You might just wake up!
In the meantime, you can keep singing Americas praises. Because that's all they've got left.